Fuzzy Logic ?greenspun.com : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread
Since rollover,I've been trying work out why the bug has not bitten really hard even in countries that were behind in remediation work.Surprise seems to be the order of the day.
I know nothing about computers & it is certainly not my intention to belittle all the remediation work that has been done.However I can't help wondering whether most programs etc have a hidden "fuzzy logic"..the degree of which has only become apparent in these past few days.How else can you explain that even so-called non- compliant PC's have rolled over without too much problem in many small businesses ? I just cannot believe that everyone everywhere ensured their systems were compliant.
-- A very puzzled (email@example.com), January 05, 2000
Griffen...I'm in a similar boat. My folks and other family memebers DGI'd and were going to FOF. They had no problems either...even the old outdated IBM laptop seems to have come thru without a hitch.
I'm wondering if maybe we've got a form of AI going on. [artificial intelligence] Makes sense in a way. We are connected to the net. Most comps are interlinked in one way or the other. A lot of info and ideas being transferred....just like neurons in a brain.
Kind of makes me sorry for hitting my keyboard. :)
-- Satanta (EventHoriz@n.com), January 05, 2000.
Fuzzy logic eh?....
Most PC's that run Windows 9x or NT never needed any upgrade. Windows handles all the dates through "windowing" (convenient term, I guess) so even an incorrect date from the BIOS will be translated correctly by Windows, at least for the next 30 years or so. This really isn't such a big mystery. Setting your date forward to 2000 in 1999 would have shown this to be true. I can't believe no one here tried that.
-- Jim Cooke (JJCooke@yahoo.com), January 05, 2000.
here is the deal.
software is affected when the data steps outside the range that the programmer allows. It then exhibits 'undefined' behavior.
It is only when that behavior impacts the real world, in a negative way, that we are showing symptoms of the y2k issue.
As a programmer of some years, let me say that I think that this undefined behavior will be showing up for years. A lot of it, as corrupted entries in databases that take months to scrub the data and even more months to locate and correct the cause.
we can even expect this of the embedded systems. No reason they should fail, even with bad data, until they are called upon to do something. And thus exhibit some undefined behavior. I know some solar powered remote telemetry systems that are in this category. They will fail years from now.
Basically, everyone has been sold a bogus concept, which was that Y2K was about dates. It really is, was, and will be, about data. And in that meager, mean, nasty little detail, lies the grinning devil.
-- pliney the younger (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 05, 2000.
http://www.ai.mit.edu/events/brainsMachines/abstracts/F1999/theos I posted this site a few days ago. I don't know if anyone bothered to check it out, or if sysops posted because I've been tied up with PC issues at home base and work. This is pertinent, it's important and it bears consideration.
-- charlie in houston (email@example.com), January 05, 2000.
Fuzzy logic, Fuzzy Zoellor, Fuzzy Thurston, Fuzz buster, Fuzzy Navel, Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear.
-- (FizzyFoes@Fuzzy.nation), January 06, 2000.