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Not once, not twice, but dozens of y2k rollovers of the family of bad dates to set y2k off all over again so when January's problems are finally fixed, we've got February's and March's, and other bad dates in the y2k bundle, wave after wave of computer failures. Far too premature to declare that everything is under control even by it professionals who think everything is holding under control because its only been a few days into the FIRST ROLLEROVER DATE for 2000. If janruary don't take things out, then February or other bad dates on top of the current failures we're experiencing could because we don't know what impact that is going to have on top of everything else.

-- Brent Nichols (b-nichol@ihug.co.nz), January 05, 2000


Brent, I'm thinking that if you set up a bot to repeat various posts of yours with slightly rejiggled wording each time, you'd end up creating the same results with minimal effort.

-- Ned Raggett (ned@kuci.org), January 05, 2000.

Why are you even trying Brent ? Nobody (most) that hangs out here gives a rats-butt. I can't figure out why these people even read this stuff if all the want to do is argue about it and rip the poster to shreds.

I understand your concerns and I'm not trying to offend you at all. I'm just amazed at the number of people who hang out here, debunking EVERYTHING that is posted and castrating anyone who trys to participate in this forum.

Personally, aside from nice ones I have run into, I think this forum has turned into hangout for habitual losers. Nothing matters to them except making smart-assed comments and running other down. It's like they are trying to come to grips with some kind of childhood abuse, or something. I can't figure it out.

When I first started coming here, it was a group of people who shared a common concern about a great unknown. Information was shared and hashed about. Speculation was rampant but hey, I did my little share too. But one thing you didn't see was the regulars turning on each other and trying to make each other look lame. This is all I see anymore. Somebody trying to best somebody else. What a joke !

I see here what occurs all the time in the corporate level. Throat-cutting, lambasting, and demonizing the other who is only interested in being genuine and helpful. What the hell is it with you people ? (Not you Brent)

Anyway, you make me sick. If this is what this nation is about, it truley is a damned shame that something can't happen to skim some of your type of crud off the top. I don't wish harm on anyone, but sometimes I do wish the a$$' of this world would simply wash away like a Venezuelan flood. You contribute nothing; you are the bile from what used to be a proud, productive and moral society.

What do you want to do with the rest of your life !? Remember that tune ? Well, I surely want to leave something positive in my memory. I would hate to think that when people thought of me, all they had to think about was my smart-a$$ mouth.

I guess we just have to assume it can only get worse. That's why we will never stop all the wars. War is a proven method for cleansing the planet. Sometimes the "cleansing" is just misdirected.

-- Ralph (sickofit@home.now), January 05, 2000.

Um, thanks. I guess.

-- Ned Raggett (ned@kuci.org), January 05, 2000.

Ralph Why are you here.? Brent has made some good posts.

-- quityrgrippn (ralpharoo@dot.net), January 05, 2000.

Brent, I like this snippet from Michael Hyatt:

"Y2K is not a one-time event. It is not a yes-or-no situation, with Jan. 1 being either a disaster or a non-event. The Y2K problem is not like a car cruising down the highway and suddenly hitting a cement wall. It is more like a car cruising down the highway, and then the highway turns into 20 miles of dirt road. The car begins to shudder and must slow down. Although the car is still moving, it is not moving nearly as smoothly and efficiently as before."

-- matt (matt@somewhere.nz), January 05, 2000.


Why would a change in the month cause a problem? It's the year, not the month, that's at issue. I'm absolutely certain we'll see some problems at the end of the month, just like the one's we've seen so far. People will fix them and life will continue. You're getting way over the top here.


-- Jim Cooke (JJCooke@yahoo.com), January 05, 2000.


I'm not ragging on Brent, I ragging on the knot-heads that are always sarcastic about these types of good posts. I'm not on him at all. Read my post carefully.

-- Ralph (sickofit@home.now), January 05, 2000.

Hate to break it to you, Ralph, but Brent's posts are far from 'good.' At most they are rehashes of others' points, given his own particular extremist spin. There are some extremely intriguing and to my mind much more intelligent discussions of this whole thing on here which urge caution and concern, which is great. But Brent offers nothing beyond what is already said and more to the point simply operates at a no-holds-barred 'ACK!' pace the whole time, and all you've really done is congratulate him for thinking like you, it seems. I've seen similar on the other side of the argument too, so I'm hardly trashing just one side entirely here. Simply call me hungry for a little more than eight similar ALL CAPS TITLED 'woe is us' messages a day -- I may not have particular heavy-duty insights to bring to this whole thing, but unlike Brent, I'm not pretending otherwise.

-- Ned Raggett (ned@kuci.org), January 05, 2000.

Ralph, You have made some good points. It is distressing to see people tear each other down in such a crude manner. I would like to think we, as the intelligent species, would be more civil to each other. We have enough wars in the world the way it is. It will never stop until we learn to respect each other, and perhaps it starts with respecting ourselves.

I have enjoyed reading Brent's posts...he is standing up for what he believes in and that is what this forum is all about. I have learned a lot from reading his posts (thanks Brent). I do indeed also enjoy reading posts which counter balance these views as well. I came here to seek information about the Y2K issue and how it would impact our economy.

Forum: "an assembly, program, etc. for the discussion of public matters". (Websters New World Dictionary) Also, "the public square of an ancient Roman city". I did not see where a "forum" was a place where people were stoned to death.

-- Dee (T1Colt556@aol.com), January 05, 2000.

Dee, well said. And Ned, it appears you might be getting tired of hanging out here. If so, and you don't "like the soup, try another diner". Just a suggestion.

When I get tired of watching the news, I change the channel. When I get tired of my smelly ole socks, I change them. Likewise, if you are sick of the posts here, like I sometimes get, then get away from it. It does no good to "thrash" people about. THAT, is what I am saying.

Instead, what people do is forget they can do something else. They forget that their browser will take other URL's. They resort to opening up the forum, seeing the same ole, same ole and then proceed to get radical about it. If people want to NOT change the subject, then so be it. You can. Just type in another URL.

-- Ralph (sickofit@home.now), January 05, 2000.

Brent is one of the few here who is posting on anticipated Y2K problems. He posts under his name, so those who don't want to read them should skip them.

-- Dave (dannco@hotmail.com), January 05, 2000.

Actually, Ralph, I'm not tired of hanging out in the forum in general. There's been much interesting discussion which I enjoy, from both sides -- sometimes a lot to sift through, though. This said, I have today reached the conclusion that Brent definitely isn't worth it at all, so I shan't post to any thread he starts from here on in, and this is my final post here. Again, I feel he says nothing that hasn't been said elsewhere, and compared to the sometimes lengthy analyses from folks on both sides, who are willing to step back and consider all the various factors at play, Brent has offered nothing but sloganeering and repetition. There is precious little actual *analysis*, as he demonstrated the other day when he put up a list of problems reported in general, essentially accepting that every problem mentioned anywhere on this board = Y2K while saying what even in a mere three days have been his usual tropes (heaven knows what that's been like over months -- I'd be bored stiff). That's as short-sighted as saying that every problem reported has absolutely *nothing* to do with Y2K. If that satisfies you, great, but it strikes me as intellectual junk food.

-- Ned Raggett (ned@kuci.org), January 05, 2000.

Ralph, heal thyself. ;p

-- Servant (public_service@yahoo.com), January 06, 2000.


Kneel thyself ;p.

-- Ralph (sickofit@home.now), January 06, 2000.

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