Title Company web site problems...need serious comments please

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Could a Code Slinger explain this error message to me please? I access a title companys, log in with password and ID, go within the web site for data and keep getting this error message.

DQCONN~1 error '800af108' Internal application error. /include/logon.inc, line 72

Another title web site seems to be okThanks

-- Uncle Bob (UNCLB0B@AOL.COM), January 03, 2000

Answers

I think my server was down for 20 mins or so. Back up now , obviously. Have never gotten that error message before.

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.com), January 03, 2000.

Mistakes on webpages reflect in no way on what a programmer does.

I don't think you understand the difference between web-pages and mainframe programming. Htm(l) is a simple small routine that controls what you see on a monitor.

A programmer can create an operating system, write and complile programs which others use to process data.

Basically IT's will use these programs others have created to manipulate data-they are not programmers. Web writers are not even IT's, even though what they do is more complicated than what a lot of It's have to do. But all it is, as I said, is a tiny subroutine geared toward user friendly and user attractive eye candy. You can, and many people do learn html on the web. It is not all that easy, especially with the power stuggles going on between browser companies etc. Jave and Java-script is a perfect example, Sun created JAVA, Microsoft (in their attitude of thinking they have the right to control all things) decided to come up with Java-script.

tThis is just a small part of what a programmer can do, there are many other more difficult things required of them. Algorithms are a case in point. There is no need for them when writing a web-page.

So basically, what wep page writers do in no way reflects on what programmers do.

Look at it this way a programmer is the one who designs a car, web-page creater is the person who paints it. Two different animals. Programming takes a lot of training and work, writing webpages is not hard at all, especially today with all of the web-page creaters programs.



-- Cherri (sams@brigadoon.com), January 03, 2000.


Short story: Their primary contact into the electronically connected community is broke. (Doesn't matter who "painted" the car, nor who designed it, nor who last fixed it, nor why it broke (no fuel, no oil, no water, overheated, or flat tires.)

It ain't runnin'.

Call them (landline - if you can get through) and tell them it's broke, then wait for them to fix it. Hope you lost no vital, time-sensitive information in the meantime.

-- Robert A Cook, PE (Marietta, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), January 03, 2000.


"Mistakes on webpages reflect in no way on what a programmer does."

Ummm...many web pages actually ARE programs, not simply HTML pages. In fact, every time you use this bboard you're using such a (set of) web pages. Such programs are relatively simple - all the hard work at this site, for instance, is done by an RDBMS.

The kind of error message Uncle Bob is getting looks like one triggered by a programming error.

Oh...and Javascript wasn't invented by MicroSoft (try Netscape) and it's not Java (in fact, it originally wasn't called JavaScript, the name was changed for marketing reasons)

-- Fubar (fubar@foo.bar), January 03, 2000.


First off Fubar is right and Cherri is wrong (although simple web pages use html).

Your login attempt utilizes programming for the website. What is happening is that when you hit the login button then a post is sent to the website. The website server takes this information to then send to a program on this or another machine to conduct the login process.

The statement "/include/logon.inc, line 72" states close to where the error occured. This program is has been written in C or C++ and it has been compiled with debug information available. The program probably probably calls a login program library that has been written in-house or off the shelf. I say this because include files are mainly used with libaraies or to define macros.

The "800af108" is the hex error value and when converted to binary will give clues as to what went wrong. Seeing 800 infront of a hex error value makes sense.

The "DQCONN" is the C/C++ module that announced the error.

It is pausible that another title web site seems to be ok.

You should give this info to tech support for that website.

-- Paul (paul@fakehome.com), January 03, 2000.



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