Out of 5 billion embedded systems, on the rollover there were what, 250 glitches? That's one out of 20 million. So if failures increase one million fold, that's one glitch out of 20 embedded systems. Not too difficult to handle. Certainly not death by a thousand cuts. Remember that I don't believe that every problem that went on during the rollover is related to Y2K.

-- Realist (don't@want.spam), January 02, 2000

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Nor have you heard of 1% of the Y2K related problems.

-- Think It (Through@Pollies.Duh), January 02, 2000.

If most y2k glitches turned out not to cause serious problems on the rollover, it makes sense you were overestimating the odds of a glitch shutting down the system(i.e. if things are worse by one million fold on monday, most of the glitches in the 1 out of 10 embedded systems are not crucial).

-- Realist (don't@want.spam), January 02, 2000.

Realist:

You DGI. Either change your handle to 'duh' or locate a nice forum discussing how to care for roses. Please.

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), January 02, 2000.

I understand, you can't refute my argument so you attack me personally.

-- Realist (don't@want.spam), January 02, 2000.

My Dear Mr Realist

My that is an odd name..Especially coming from one who spouts drivel and seems so proud of it. Sir, in reference to your observations that the embedded systems have faced their trial by fire...In this you are wrong!!!! The embedds will yet be heard from! And for the next 12 months..

Why were there not a rash of calamities on the roll over? Try this thought out in your mind. Just about every trick that could be conceived of to buy time, was put into action by the people running the power generation systems.. From manual over rides, to out and out right lying to the PLCs and other digital systems. To one that even I never thought of...Causing the GMT atomic clock to run backward! No year 2000 signals went out from that clock over the satellites..LOL.

Now as you gloat, and wipe drool from your chin sir. Contemplate this, the financial systems, oil systems, transportation systems and all business and manufactoring systems...Which had all been off line for the roll over, and are still not on line even now. These systems will be hitting the wall for the next two months.."You feel lucky today....Well do Ya?"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~shakey~~~~~~~~~~~~~

-- Shakey (in_a_bunker@forty.feet), January 02, 2000.

Shakey - are you saying the Atomic Clock is still running backwards? What exactly happened with it, or did I miss some tongue in cheek?

-- Laurane (familyties@rttinc.com), January 02, 2000.

Even if only 1% of embedded systems were running, the fact of no major and very few minor glitches seems to indicate that there was less of a problem than you doomers believe. Some financial systems are up, some oil systems are up... and no problems. Wait, I guess the media and the government are in some conspiracy to cover it up... yeah, that's it.

-- Realist (don't@want.spam), January 02, 2000.

Realist... embeddeds are not the only thing which concerns me. THey are one of many. No realist you are premature in your assertion that embeddeds are done causing problems. You are also incorrect in your apparent assumption that embeddeds are the only issue.

I will not resort to insulting you because I believe your are sincere in you assertion. It is just that I personally believe your assertion to be incorrect. I don't think you have enough concrete evidence at this point to state emphatically that embeddeds have not caused problems. I also know that you don't have enough evidence to assert that software issues are not going to be a problem.

I remain, waiting.

-- Michael Erskine (Osiris@urbanna.net), January 02, 2000.

Dear Mistress Laurane.

In answer to your question dear lady. I have not further checked on the GMT clocks since the night of the roll over. I have picked up a tidbit of information though that there where at least two other atomic clocks that managed to accomplish the same feat..On that night.

and now to a another matter:

And to you Mr Reality...Why don't you grab your fire proof undies and run (fly) to Aussy land...Jump up on that burning oil line, folow it down to the nearest flow control valve, and see if it is in closed position! That(Aussy land) now makes a really, really huge number of; sort of, but can't be embedded caused fires, explosions, failures... That have occured and are still occuring. Want to bet that the tempo doesn't pick up?

Reality? Yea! Right!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Shakey~~~~~~~~~~~~~

-- Shakey (in_a_bunker@forty.feet), January 02, 2000.

The embeddeds problem was/is only one part of the problem. Even if we could assume that your assertion of 1 in 20 million embeddeds was correct, the odds would have no relevance to other systems - such as mainframes, networks, etc.

-- brent pathakis (abpathakis@yahoo.com), January 02, 2000.