CNN This Morning 90% of Computers are turned OFF!!

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Scratching your heads about why?? bewildered about all the Smooth transitions.

I couldnt believe it this morning on CNN world news this morning. Sun. 9:35am e.d.t. The anchor actually made this comment.

"The rollover went smooth, but the real test comes Monday since 90% of the worlds computers were shut down over the weekend" ???

lol!! can you believe these freaks of nature!?

-- d........ (dciinc@aol.com), January 02, 2000

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And don't forget all the ones which "ran" this weekend, but on manual only.

-- (brooksbie@hotmail.com), January 02, 2000.

Yes, but as we are typing more and more of them are running. Also in parts of the world, Sunday was a business day.

-- Butt Nugget (catsbutt@umailme.com), January 02, 2000.

Not that makes sense! This is the first piece of info that actually makes a lot of sense. Nothin can happen when all the computers are all asleep. Ican just imagine the fear that all the sheeple will be experiencing monday morning when they try to boot up a system that has never been remediated. In fact I can smell the fear right now. (Nevermind that was my dog I smelled.)

-- meat man (spam@spam.net), January 02, 2000.

Watch the banks.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 02, 2000.

meat man...sheeple? Still using this logic? I don't think that's your dog making the smell.

Did you read below the words of various people who ARE and HAVE BEEN working this weekend? Did you read the various news stories where hundreds of corporations--not to mention banking and finance corps---that were running all weekend to allay their own fears?

90%?

80%--yesterday's number---was looked at and laughed over here and on other sites.

When does spin start becoming reality---when YOU say so?

-- Bad Company (where'sthedog@wmeatman.com), January 02, 2000.



The way I look at it is if problems are happening to the point that the media is reporting glitches over the world then the news is very bad. I say this because PR's all over the world are going to give a "Situation Normal" response as long as it is within their control.

EXIT 316

-- Exit 316 (exit316@kc-primary.net), January 02, 2000.


Badcompany,

You have been posting here for a while and if my memory serves me you have pretty much been in the middle.

for the life of me I cannot understand how 90% of computers being turned off coupled with [it] being .. Well let Dale way Say it for you...

""the rollover fallacy has so skewed the dialog and the public consciousness that society has been forced to focus on the 5% of the Y2K crisis that is least dangerous and easiest to deal with and obscured from clear view the other 95% of the problem that has the potential to do great damage to the economic and social order.""

Does this look familiar?? what has the entire world been focused on? The rollover and not what happens after the rollover when the real UNSEEN fun starts.

In my estimation thats what makes this so insidious both mentally and physically, is due to the fact that society now honestly thinks everything is A-Ok when in actuality the little bugs are unseen,obscurrd from view and who knows the outcome. Wow-what a mess!!

-- d....... (dciinc@aol.com), January 02, 2000.


-d-, yes, I was in the middle right until the very end. I initially listened to the North projections of doom and then came here. I was optimistic at the end but never envisioned such a blip on the radar screen. Few probably did.

I remember reading Mr.Way's comments here. It is naive to say that my basic concerns are infrastructure---light, heat, etc--and yet, in light of Mr.Way's comments, I must remain happy that we have these items.

d, I still take issue with the percentage number, for it seems all too cozy for the 'what-if'-driven 'last-second reporting' media.

Your points are well taken, but I am willing to give people at work on systems a little more credit at this juncture than I would have a few weeks ago. I'd like to think that people were paying attention to the conerns of deJager, of Yourdon, of Way. So far, so good.

And I have to pray Way is off base here.

-- Bad Company (johnny@shootingstar.com), January 02, 2000.


90% Maybe, maybe not. A bunch, you betcha. Probably at least 25% of the worlds business systems were down during rollover and that is conservative to the point of being retentive. Most of the BIG corporations have probably brought up systems to check them over the weekend. Perhaps even some of those have actually tested over the weekend with live data. Some won't be able to do that without input from suppliers...

Still waiting.

-- Michael Erskine (Osiris@urbanna.net), January 02, 2000.


Agreed, Michael. Someone said a while back that small and mid-range businesses were more problematic. I think this is still a reasonable accounting and worth watching.

-- Bad Company (rebelsoul@deserters.com), January 02, 2000.


Mr. Erskine, Does this mean CNN is giving erroneous information regarding Y2K or is it they have misinformation about the percentages?

If a global News entity that has bureaus around the world and hundreds of reporters claims the above to be accurate why should one trust your resources of information over theirs?

respectfully Sir

-- d...... (dciinc@aol.com), January 02, 2000.


-d, erroneous isn't quite the right word. How about 'reactionary' or 'not fully informed'.

Hype sells, doesn't it?

-- Bad Company (justanotherday@movinon.com), January 02, 2000.


The Dec-Jan rollover was just part 1. Part 2 comes next week

-- Rob (becida@the-bridge.net), January 02, 2000.

I am not a pessimist, but isn't the point of calling this Y2K thing "the bug", because it will be like a cockroach infestation? It takes time to bring a house down when you got bugs in the walls, all unseen and under the surface! No one said some giant martian bug was going to chomp the whole house in one bite! I think if nothing major compunds over the next couple of weeks, then we can all start breathing a little easier...lets hope, but no more jump the gun conclusions-lets use a little common sense here!

-- Sam Luffy (big_gipper@techie.com), January 02, 2000.

September, 1939 - Britain declares war on Germany. Air raid sirens sound in London virtually immediately.

Next nine months - the 'Phony War': nothing happens, everyone relaxes, 'war isn't as bad as it's made out to be."

Mid-1940: Luftwaffe begin methodically obliterating London. The war is on in earnest.

"Y2K is chronic" - John Koskinen

-- John Whitley (jwhitley@inforamp.net), January 02, 2000.



Sam, I am breathing easier right now, thanks. John, bad analogy. Being a history 'buff', you wish to evoke visions of the 'great war' but come up firing blanks. You will remember the ineptitude of Neville Chamberlain in mid-1930's England. With many visions of World War 1 still dancing int heir heads, the English did not wish to engage the German war machine. In retrospect, it was nice of Chamberlain to allow the Nazis to storm Poland and take Hitler at his word---that it wouldn't happen again. It was doubly nice of Chamberlain to hand over Czechoslovakia to Hitler, without asking the Czechs, first.Imagine the fun the Czechs had, going to bed with an agreement in hand about non-invasion, and then waking up with tanks rolling down main street, Prague.

Chamberlain left office in disgrace, and Hitler was undoubtedly laughing at the nervous, paper tiger known as England. Not until Winston Churchill entered the picture did Hitler see an England with resolve.

Point is, I'd hardly see a correlation between y2k and this scenario. Your point was that the English didn't think war was too bad until London started having the hell bombed out of it. Unfortunately, England really wasn't at war until the Nazi machine realized that the 'talk' of Neville Chamberlain was over.

-- Bad Company (johnny@shootingstar.com), January 02, 2000.


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