Ok, where does everyone think we are now?

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I am now expecting a 3 to 7.5 (7.5 being a "mild" depression) on the scale with my worries dissapearing by the hour... How about you all? BTW, I've started eating what I've stored, and it tastes pretty good! Oh well, at least I am prepared for anything that might happen...... Y2K seems to be a TOTAL BITR so far, let's hope it stays that way.... Happy New Year! I'll be back soon... :o)

-- Crono (Crono@timesend.com), January 01, 2000

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Look, I know that emotionally it's a big lift that there's been no reported rollover failures, but Y2K is just starting. I wasn't stocking for rollover, but for the next 3-6 months. The last thing I'm going to do is to go and put all my money back in the bank first thing Monday. Give it a couple of weeks AT LEAST.

-- Servant (public_service@yahoo.com), January 01, 2000.

I agree with the numerical range (no greater than 7.5) but not the bitr comment. The infrastructure stability eliminated the worst case scenario in my opinion. But Y2K is far from over.

How long until Pakistan Stock Market comes back online? How many more hits will financial markets take? Long term effects of bad data on complex systems of systems...

We still have plenty of surviving to do, but it should be easier thanks to the power and telecos staying up.

As for supplies, I will eat the grocery store versions but not the long term storage stuff. If economy unravels the long term stuff may become the groceries..

Happy New Year

-- collocated (collocated@home.now), January 01, 2000.


No scenario can be ruled out this early in the game...I'm still prepping. Anybody selling "unneeded" items?

-- TM (mercier7@pdnt.com), January 01, 2000.

Eyes wide open and ear to the ground. Same place I've always been. Not much has changed as of yet other than being grateful for what we do and don't have......so far. :)

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), January 01, 2000.

Hey, I am listening to John Hiatt, Live at Buddhakhan and life is good. The power is on, drinking our bottled water for a day or two, relieved for the moment that if my son gets sick, the hospital is open. I'm not breaking into my three month supply at least until March, but today is a good day. At least some of the waiting and wondering is over!

-- y2kfallback (y2kfallback@yahoo.com), January 01, 2000.


I had been strongly predicting a severe global depression to anyone I cared about and thought might listen. I was prepped past that, up to a 9.5 or so, to be safe.

Now, I've raised my expectations to a 6 at the worst, and more as a result of speculation fueling the market faster than the assest/profit value of the companies can grow.

I hadn't thought a BITR was reasonably possible, but now it even looks likely. Thank God! (Even an atheist like me can say that when they're this happy.)

-- Gus (y2kk@usa.net), January 01, 2000.


Glad that the power stayed on but I still believe it will be around 4 to 6. Guess we should know better in a couple of weeks when more businesses open and see what is up there. I am not letting my guard down for a few months.

I do not think we will hear about most glitches as most companines will try to hide them. I think what we may see are just shortages, layoffs and other down turned economy type situations. I think most people may not attribute it to Y2K at all and choose to accept the PR that will most likely be published that it is something like "well the bull market had to turn sometime" type excuse.

obo

-- Obo (susanwater@excite.com), January 01, 2000.


"Servant" is dead on. We need WEEKS NOT HOURS to evaluate. I'm planning 3-4 weeks before judging infrastructure; 3 solid months (fiscal quarter) on everyhing else for Y2K.

How sweet it is that everything seems so normal at this time.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.cum), January 01, 2000.

Infomagic said it best (before he launched into that rant about Gold)...overall, Fortune 500 fixed 60%, Smaller businesses fixed 30%, and Governments fixed JUST 10% of what had to get done.

Look, the way I see it, the Infrastructure staying up cancels any justification for Suspension of Civil Liberties and imposition of Martial Law, so I'm happy.

Phase II begins Monday when the World reopens for business. ( think Pakistan Stock Exchange )



-- K. Stevens (kstevens@ It's ALL still to play out.com), January 01, 2000.


Lights staying on are just ONE of the hurdles we have to cross. It's a biggie and I'm GLAD we're past it (at least it appears that way now) but there are many more hurdles to get over before I'd say we're out of the woods.

I agree with others. By April we should have a good idea of what the ramifications will be.

-TECH32-

-- TECH32 (TECH32@NOMAIL.COM), January 01, 2000.



Well, it is amazing. No problems anywhere (to speak of). I'm glad because though it seemed quite possible to get to a 10 rapidly (no Gov., power down etc.) I realized some time ago that I could not withstand that scenario, though I've prepped all I possible can.

Thankfully, no nukes. It makes one wonder what information about the world and how it works can be believed. How can countries that clearly didn't spend the money, have no problems? If we compare this to the Titantic, it took several hours for the ship to sink. Our scale of time would probably be months, keeping the same proportions, so be alert.

Yes, next week will be telling, but if there are no problems soon, I must confess that my understanding of the world and how it works is just plain wrong. Although I find it unfathomable, that EVERYONE EVERYWHERE fixed everything, the no-problem result can't be ignored.

For now, I say we have come through a critical time, with Russia and the Nuke Power Plants. Oil and the shipping/train situation should become clear by mid-week, as well as the world markets.

Thankfully it seems we are in a range (8 or lower) that can be survived. I still think we live in a nation of sheep. I still think the "endless prosperity" is a big illusion that will vanish. I still think that those who did nothing to prepare, are lucky and living on borrowed time, as they have no skills or mindset that would help them in times of real trouble. Without our 'technology', most people couldn't survive at all.

-- Gregg (g.abbott@starting-point.com), January 01, 2000.


Re-evaluation takes me from a 4/5 to a 3. Problems will graduate upwards (possible 3) once the business world gets back fully online.

-- Rob (maxovrdrv51@hotmail.com), January 01, 2000.

Gregg,

While reading this thread I was preparing my response. Now I don't have to, as you summarized it much better than I could have.

The power gods have not deserted us. Instead of faling off the cliff, we can descend down the trail. I'm very relieved that we've avoided the anarchy/martial law/looting scenario, but I don't think we've dodged the bullet by any means (still no BITR).

Thanks to all the alarmists for keeping the heat on - we may survive after all.

-- Michael (mhgentry@prodigy.net), January 01, 2000.


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