get around to the whole story. Lots of interesting things which were not reported last night starting to get reported this morning. Little fractures in the system that indicate some embeddeds DID fail. Reporting is still saying "but remediated"... It is very important to this economy that Monday comes and people believe it is life as usual with NO significant y2k issues. Let us see what reporting looks like over the weekend...

-- Michael Erskine (Osiris@urbanna.net), January 01, 2000

Answers

Michael;

haven't turned on TV yet today; can you be more specific? Links?

-- Beached Whale (beached_whale@hotmail.com), January 01, 2000.

Monday morning should be fun. Dont have a clue as to what it will bring us, but since we do all sorts of PC work, plus hosting, web design etc, something is bound to drop in our laps.

We seem to be solid here so it might not be a problem with our stuff, but since we have hundreds of customers it would be interesting to see how many people call when they realize that their PC is hurting their business.

-- hamster (hamster@mycage.com), January 01, 2000.

Osiris, is that you? You'll be pleased to hear that last night I ate BIG Chinese, not little! ;)

-- Arewyn (artemis31@email.msn.com), January 01, 2000.

GBBL -- Great Big Belly Laugh. :)

-- Michael Erskine (Osiris@urbanna.net), January 01, 2000.

Whale; Nothing I recommend you chase down or pin your fears on. It is the tone of the reporting that is changing this morning more than anything else. The big celebration is over and they are gradually starting to get back into the business of presenting information (however skewed that might be).

-- Michael Erskine (Osiris@urbanna.net), January 01, 2000.

That's right, Mike. Try to 'read through' the messages. After all, it was all spin and public relations to keep the masses calm the whole time.

Jeez. Are you hung-over, or what?

-- Bad Company (johnny@shootingstar.com), January 01, 2000.

I want everything to be all right--believe me. I have a lot invested in my life, more than I have invested in the loss of it. But realize this--firms such as Blue Cross/Blue Shield here in Florida are not going to begin processing for reimbursement of providers until January 17. To me that says that there is a problem and a big one. Why the 17th. And cash flow stops. We still haven't seen what's happening with the banks etc. I'm thrilled to be able to flush.

-- Mara (MaraWayne@aol.com), January 01, 2000.

FWIW:

I worked 10+ years with for the Arrmy, in communications/IT. The place was, among other things, the message ctr. for the installation, meaning all REALLY classified messages came through us (this changed with the advent of 'secure' e-mail).

One thing I was taught VERY quickly: NEVER, NEVER, NEVER report a problem to a higher level unless you have absolutely NO alternative. No alternative means 'the commander is going to find out, and it had better come from us before it comes from someone else'. I still have scars on my behind from the chewing I got for reporting a failure that could've been 'handled'.

IOW, no problems reported means no problems that the boss HAD to hear about.

Oh for the good ol' days at that place....

(sarcasm off)

-- Arewyn (artemis31@email.msn.com), January 01, 2000.

Johnny; relax. We are starting to get more detailed reporting. That is all I said. That reporting is beginning to indicate that there were some problems. No I am not hung over, I am not being a turd, eiter, how about you?

-- Michael Erskine (Osiris@urbanna.net), January 01, 2000.

As of 11:30pm EST

I have seen no proof of embedded failures. Lots of systems needed rebooting. The nuke plants sounded like software errors. Gambia's bad transition (electrical not y2k related).

I really looked too.

Of course they'll be bugs (and maybe a handful of embedded issues in some random systems). But for one second, imagine that y2k never existed as a computer problem, and we were on the lookout for every glitch in any system, and every power outage in the world. It would be a huge list. What were seeing is partly a reflection of this.

The Big Picture, the only thing that matters to John Q. Public is pretty damn rosy. Deal with it.

-- Mike B. (mike@noemail.net), January 01, 2000.

Mike B. The POINT was that the press was done partying and starting to report... Nothing in here about embeddeds ... I have never subscribed to the "We are going over a cliff" approach. I am perfectly comfortable that we have not had serious failures of embeddeds (that we can see so far). It is nice to have this machine up. At the time that I posted this nobody had any real information about what happened in outlying areas of any country. Those reports are starting to trickle in now (24 hours later).

Still waiting.

-- Michael Erskine (Osiris@urbanna.net), January 02, 2000.