Ok, if the USA is more compliant/ready/on the ball than these other countries, then why hasn't the other countries had problems yet? I have to admit that I am looking at things much differently now. It's not that I regret preparing for y2k because any emergency could happen, it's just that I kinda feel like a moron now.... What wrong with this picture? are some of you asking yourselves that question now?????

-- Philip (imwaiting@answerplease.com), December 31, 1999

Answers

We're not there yet!

-- Kim Bedford (bedfordk@kwic.com), December 31, 1999.

I'm a moron too. I'm a moron who's ready for practically any kind of emergency, including burglars.

Is there a problem here?

-- if it's true we should (only@be.happy), December 31, 1999.

No, we're not there yet. But I'm a whole lot less worried about the acual rollover. I'm not sure what will happen between now and June though. In any event, nothing I've done has hurt anyone, and none of it will be wasted.

-- margie mason (mar3mike@aol.com), December 31, 1999.

All I'm sure of is that it isn't over 'till it's over...

-- Majicke (iswaiting@home.4.awhile), December 31, 1999.

"it's just that I kinda feel like a moron now.... What wrong with this picture?"

Nothing wrong with that picture. You ARE a moron.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 31, 1999.

Philip,

Although encouraged by what I see so far, (I've always hoped the electricity would stay on, so this looks good) It's the unremediated code that still exists, that will take awhile to bite. I must admit though, it is a pleasure to see the fireworks going off and the lights still on.

-- Michael (michaelteever@buffalo.com), December 31, 1999.

No! In for a penny, in for a pound.

-- Lurkess (Lurkess@Lurking.Net), December 31, 1999.

And do I therefore presume you also feel like a moron for taking out fire insurance every year even though probably you, and everybody you know has never had one? And if you have the law of averages say you probably won't have one again so no need to continue to take out the insurance every year any more.

Get real this is not about saving face, otherwise we've already all been morons for a long time having been duped by the Insurance cult that duped Mr. Polly as well.

Mr Polly:

I guess you've been feeling like a moron for a while to having been duped by the Insurance cult.

-- Interested Spectator (is@the_ring.side), December 31, 1999.

This is good news (so far) about embedded systems. What we don't know yet is what will happen in China and Russia today, and what will happen when people go back to work on Monday.

Are oil refineries operating today, or have they been temporarily shut down 'just in case' like other industries?

-- (Watching@nd.observing), December 31, 1999.

The potential problems we in the US will face are far more diverse than elsewhere.

Hopefully the threats of terrorism, nukes, and widespread disruptions caused by those who hate the current government will remain just that.

We are unique on the world stage. Don't throw out the Spam just yet.

-- Red Dawn (reddawn@thebunker.com), December 31, 1999.

It's over - the whole thing was a hoax.

-- SallyR (sjrussell@imx.com), December 31, 1999.

Mr Polly:

I don't agree with you, but I also ask why was his post deleted?

-- Interested Spectator (is@the_ring.side), December 31, 1999.

Gartner group says only 8% of the bugs hit on Jan 1.

Dodging power failures and nuclear accidents are the biggies. We can all go whew! and then focus on distribution issues, data corruption, spratic communication failures, yadda, yadda, yadda...

Then we can all go whew again when we get thru Feb. If we get past THAT we'll be heading out of the woods. ;)

-- KatInSeattle (YouC@ntSpamMe.com), December 31, 1999.

I hope everyone will relax and enjoy this event - I know that I have been feeling very comfortable due to our preps, but never expected a high likelihood of severe problems. In case they (or other problems) do happen, between now and whenever, we will now always keep up on our preps - so.....

Those who attempt to name dates and absolutes with this issue are just asking for trouble - though I sort of understand because of our need to feel like we have something under control - vagueness sucks... Please just mellow out, I know I certainly don't look forward to watching flame wars here among forum members.

For now, let's just be thankful for the good news!

-- Kristi (securxsys@cs.com), December 31, 1999.

Y2K is not a moment in time. Y2K problems can happen any time a chip'snternal clock rolls over to 2000, which is different than when the local clock rolls over, or whenever non-compliant software attempts to process a 2000 date.

It is also a systemic problem. Since our economy and lifestyle is based on computer-assisted just in time inventory and electronic management of all kinds of things, small failures could eventually pile up to larger problems. An electric grid failure may come weeks down the line when problems causing delays in coal mining and shipment lead to fuel shortages at power plants.

Neither side should declare victory this weekend, regardless of whether there is a major failure or not. Wait and see, and take common sense preparations for things you can't do without for more than a day or three, like light food, water and heat where nedded.

Also, Mr Polly, Y2K is not a cult. A cult has a leader who focuses all attention on him or herself. Unjustified Y2K fears or obsessions may be a small OR widespread cultural phenomenon, but they are not a cult. Read up yourself, and not in USA today.

-- Chris B (think@iname.com), December 31, 1999.

I didn't hear the fat lady sing...

-- LindaO (whoknows@what.com), December 31, 1999.

That's two of Mr. Polly's posts deleted. His first then his question why the first was deleted.

Sysops I am GI, but I don't accept this. If we have to eat crow, lets eat it with grace.

-- Interested Spectator (is@the_ring.side), December 31, 1999.

The power didn't go at midnight local time, so that means Y2K is a non-event?

First, wait for midnight UTC time. Then wait another three months.

-- Servant (_@_._), December 31, 1999.

Philip:

Your feelings are understandable and I share them to a slight degree.

BUT you have to remember that most "doomers", including the latest by Infomagic, predict the problems mainly arising in the DAYS,WEEKS, MONTHS after Y2K rollover. Its just to early for the "good reports" to have much meaning except 'I guess it could have been worse'.

The whole purpose of this forum has been to try to analyze FACTS vs. feelings or hopes. And the facts, final results, just aren't in.

Maybe by March, for sure not for a couple/three weeks.

Thats not rationalyzing, check past threads and you'll find the far majority don't/didn't expec tan "explosion of bad news exactly on "rollover".

-- Jon Johnson (narnia4@usa.net), December 31, 1999.

Don't you guys know a troll when you see one. He knows damn well there aren't going to be any problems in the first few hours in a couple of low-technology islands in the Pacific Ocean.

DELETE THIS WASTE OF SPACE!!

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 31, 1999.

Now this is rather strange. The replys I am getting from many of you are so ridiculous, rude and downright mean. All because I said i am rethinking things. Say no more.. Judging by your sarcasm, I guess i never knew what this thing was all about in the first place. I'm still wondering.... My name is philip, and who is mr. polly?

-- Philip (cool@off.com), December 31, 1999.

Won't it be embarrassing to US if the rest of the world makes it through the rollover, and we are the only ones with outages, etc...?

just a housemouse here, hoping all will be well, and life as we know it will go on....

J

-- JGJ (housemouse@nevermind.now), December 31, 1999.

Philip, Don't be alarmed by the crap you were subjected to. My take on all this is that it will be a while before we see the "true" result. For example we don't know what the IT Professionals are doing in these early roll over places. They may be scrambling to keep the power on, etc., etc.. Don't listen to the foolish, who would attack a person for placing a passive question, hoping for support and validation. There are ten fools for every concerned citizen on this forum. I have personally read about Y2K for approximately 1500 hours in the past 18-months. I will not rest easy for several more weeks, there are to many variables. God Bless You and Yours.

-- steve vaughn (billw86@aol.com), December 31, 1999.

Hawk... dang it... chill out, dude!

BTW... Mr. Polly is a very viralent "known" troll. Trolls get trashed.

'Nuf said.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), December 31, 1999.

Thanks Diane for speaking to Hawk's comment. He often has interesting and thoughtful posts, even sensitive (at times) ...but, he is often one of the rudest, most INsensitive to other posters. I was the object of such a couple of months ago, receiving a RUDE and totally unfounded suggestion to one of my questions re: porno on the forum. BTW thanks for you untiring efforts to keep things in balance : )

-- Kenin Marble (kenin17@yahoo.com), December 31, 1999.

FWIW, I took Hawk's comment as tongue-in-cheek adolescent humor, and kinda chuckled. I'm sure if it were his intention to be insensitive then he could think of something much more clever, in fact he has.

My annoyance on the other hand is that we are still dancing the preschool did-not-DID-TOO with the Pollies, ACK.

-- Hokie (Hokie_@hotmail.com), December 31, 1999.

Hokie....I couldn't agree with you more about the adolescent behavior exhibited at times on the forum. As a woman (contrary to what Hawk thought), my observation is that it comes largely from the male population and seems to be some sort of rite of passage to post in that manner. However, it really doesn't serve any purpose. In addition, it takes times to read past the nonsense to get to the essential knowledge....

Thanks for your manner of posting and your acknowledgement as a believer. : )

-- Kenin Marble (kenin17@yahoo.com), December 31, 1999.

http://abcnews.go.com/ABC2000/abc2000us/y2kcrisiscenter_main.html

[snip]

Y2K Chief Says No Signs of Problems
The presidents Y2K chairman, John Koskinen, told reporters that preliminary indications are that throughout the Asia-Pacific region, there are basically no signs of problems. Although no major difficulties have yet been caused by the Y2K computer bug, Koskinen maintained that it was still too early to declare victory. We have many miles to go before we sleep," he said. "Not all problems will be apparent immediately.

[snip]

-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), December 31, 1999.

If nothing goes wrong, i'll cry tears of joy. I get to spend 2000 trying to keep my family happy, chase lots of grrrrls & make money. Hurray! So I have some extra stuff, nothing wrong about that. I think I'll keep prepping for the inevitable earthquake or whatever....

-- INever (inevercheckmy@onebox.com), December 31, 1999.