Jesus Returning Tomorrow Night!??!?!?! : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread

THis is what we all know from what our preacher has told us. We are all prepared and are ready. Priase the Lord and Jesus will be ruler as in Heaven. This is so wonderful and we can hardly wait! I hope those who have not accepted Jesus as your Personal Savior will take this last chance! The hour is nigh and do you want to go to heaven or hell? Priase God!

-- JZ (, December 30, 1999


Ummm, K. Why did he (preacher) tell you that and you couldn't read it for yourself ? Not to offend but, on such an important issue, I think I would rather hear it from GOD.

-- Rob (, December 30, 1999.

Sorry, no.

-- Not Yet (advent@not.yet), December 30, 1999.

No man knows the day or the hour ...

-- merville (, December 30, 1999.

Got any Tang? This grape kool-aid gives me gas...

-- chairborne commando (, December 30, 1999.

Well, first lesson is in spelling, it is Praise, not priase the Lord. The Bible seez, "We will not know the time, nor shall the Angels". So, how's come, your Preacher knows more than the age old script? I suggest, you find, another Church.

-- Truth Seeker (, December 30, 1999.

Sorry-- but "None will know the hour" He returns...

Keep reading the scriptures... He will come when he is ready... and the "prophets" will not even be told the answer.


-- Noswad (, December 30, 1999.

JZ: You're 1/2 right. Jesus is returning--but only God the Father knows the day and hour. The Bible is quite clear on that point.

I'm no genius (ask anyone here...) but I think time and effort is much more profitably spent submitting to and obeying God while living NOW, rather than focussing on some future date. Thinking about it is okay--getting carried away is unwise IMHO.

God Bless You!

-- (, December 30, 1999.

chairborne commando: R O T F L M A O

-- silver ion (, December 30, 1999.

The Jesus you've been waiting for isn't coming, he's been right next door to you all along.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 30, 1999.

Again, well said Hawk. Always has been.

-- Michael (, December 30, 1999.

I wouldn't get my hopes to high, they expected the same thing during the turn of the first millinium.Why does your preacher say such things?

-- yea ok (, December 30, 1999.

I heard he canceled because ticket sales sucked...

-- Carl (, December 30, 1999.

Thanks Michael. What do you say we all put our heads together and work a few "miracles" in this new millennium? :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 30, 1999.

Jesus lives next door to JZ?!!!, luck guy, I just have a bunch of DWGI's next to me...

-- Texas Terri (, December 30, 1999.

No-not yet. But the Great Tribulation could begin this winter and then it would be 3 1/2 years. Look for the altar to go up in Jerusalem and then to be shut down. When the anti-christ sets an image on the temple mount then you know the Great Trib has begun.

Keep your eyes open and keep the 10 commandments!! We do not know the hour or the day but we can know the season!!

-- (I Believe (Repent @ time is, December 30, 1999.

Al-d...... is that you?????? dogszianet or something. lol

-- d.... (, December 30, 1999.

If Jesus was returning in three hours the rapture was long ago and jz21 was left behind.

-- gary (, December 30, 1999.

It's way too early.

Don't preachers ever read the bible any more. Try 2Thes. 2:1-3. Paul says that the Anti-Christ must be revealed before our gathering together by the Coming of our Lord (the Rapture). The rapture is NOT a signless event. Contrary to what many preachers are saying many events and signs must occur before it can take place and these events are not happening yet. Either that or we have to call people like the Apostle Paul, John, and Daniel and others false prophets or liars.

Another false doctrine is the pre-tribulation rapture theory. Don't worry, you can rest assured that the body of Christ will be going through the Great Tribulation. That could be just around the corner.


-- S. David Bays (, December 30, 1999.

Mr. I Believe,

I suspect the "image on the temple mount" is an interpretation of the abomination of desolation? Or are you referencing a verse with which I am unfamiliar? I agree with all the answers entered before mine. Just wondering about the "image" because if that is an interpretation then it may limit perspective.

The phrase "abomination of desolation" has not been adequately expounded upon in my readings, so any insights on this one crew? I look at the denotations, and get a sense that perhaps it is an emotional shock or sense of something being so appalling that it makes you feel empty and sickened. It has been referred to the historical example of the streets being empty (desolate) prior to attack, as a signal to flee to the hills -- Bible scholars, help me out here...Was it Jerusalem, and when persns fled they were spared?

-- Hokie (, December 30, 1999.

This is a debunker troll. Tomorrow the same sap who wrote it will copy it to their board to "prove" how wierd we are.

-- Lars (, December 31, 1999.


I've no memory of the fellow, but that proves nothing. Look at it this way, being Christian, if God brings someone into my life who's asking a question (even indirectly) it's a blessing!

I WILL take the opportunity to share Christ with them. I care nothing anymore about personal embarassment--it's not ME that saves people. That's God's work.

I'm just supposed to be there and volunteer to be used by God--and if God wants you, He'll getcha!

Now THAT'S good news!

-- (, December 31, 1999.

He's catching the 7pm into San Fran with Jane Garvey!

-- Gordon (, December 31, 1999.

Yes Hokie- I believe that the image that the anti-christ sets up on the temple mount is the abomination of desolation. I also believe that we true believers of Yeshua the Messiah will indeed go through the Great Tribulation. I wish we could be raptured out and escape but that is not what the scriptures say.

I am looking for these events in the next coming months. Watch for the setting up of the image in March 2000. If these events happen then we will know we are in the Great Trib. and we will need to escape, endure and survive for 3 1/2 years until the Lion of Judah returns on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Keep watching and don't let anyone tell you that we are not at the end of the ages!!

-- (I Believe (Repent@ time is, December 31, 1999.

To: I believe, Why March of 2000? What makes that month so special?

-- Just curious (, December 31, 1999.

Dear JZ:

You need to read the Scriptures yourself. There is great power in the knowledge for yourself. And perhaps you could find a church where the Pastor has more knowledge of end-time prophecy.

(You) 'Study to show yourself approved unto God; a workman that needs not to be ashamed.' And 'The word of God is sharper than any two- edged sword; and is profitable for reproof, for doctrine, for instruction in righteousness.'

A great help in understanding this subject:

Eschatology is very important to study right now, so that you can tell the truth from falsehood.

One thing, though: Y2k cannot be when Christ returns, because too much Scripture has not been fulfilled and it cannot be a specific date. (Only the Father knows.) We should watch and pray and be presenting the Gospel, though. One day it cannot be, however, is January 1, 2000.

In Him,

-- Connie Iversen (, December 31, 1999.

The Y2K problem is simply a collossal human error that God allowed to happen and may use to bring people to Himself. He may also use it to set up the conditions for anti-christ to arise. To the violent survivalist groups and apocalyptic millennialists who consider themselves Christian: Why do you need to do any thing to help God bring about His will? He can handle it by Himself. You make Christianity a laughingstock. We ARE supposed to be a 'peculiar people', but I don't know that we are to be THAT peculiar!

Now, I believe that there will be an apocalypse - - the abomination of desolation - - but we can't bring it about ourselves - - God will do it.

-- Connie Iversen (, December 31, 1999.

"You need to read the Scriptures yourself. There is great power in the knowledge for yourself."

What kind of power have you gained from reading the scriptures?

Looks to me like they have brainwashed you into being powerLESS.

"The meek shall inherit the earth"... six feet deep.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 31, 1999.

Hey, I understand that Jesus's reservation on the thumper express had y2k problems, and he won't arrive until 1900

-- jumpoff joe (, December 31, 1999.

I think the Jewish temple has to be built before the abomination desolation can accure.

-- Gambler (, December 31, 1999.

Jesus just left Chicago, and he's bound for New Orleans.

-- ZZ Top (hi@fi.mama), December 31, 1999.

'The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge."

Mr. Hawk:

The knowledge I have received, and the power I have been given from a study of the Scriptures are not transferrable to another; one has to experience it for oneself, but if you seek God with your whole heart, He will reveal Himself to you. As the Scriptures say of themselves, 'It is pure foolishness to those who are dying'.(spiritually) The power is not over mundane things; it is over sin. (If we invoke His Name, (the Name of Jesus) He will give us the power to be like He is - - although not sinless. After becoming Christians, we aren't sinless, but we do sin less. The reason we Christians are so peculiar to unbelievers is because this world is not our real goal - - heaven is. (And fellowship with our Lord Jesus Christ.)

But to get back to JZ: God will teach you the way you should go. Just 'test the spirits, whether they be of God.' 'Many false Christs have gone out into the world.' And forgive your Pastor, but perhaps start a Bible study with him. And none of us knows everything the Scriptures has for us yet. But it's fascinating to find out. This is what unbelievers don't understand. And they never will unless they first accept Christ as Savior.

-- Connie Iversen (, December 31, 1999.

"one has to experience it for oneself,"

Very true, but you can't EXPERIENCE something by reading it in a book. You have to turn thought into action, and action into reality, then you have experienced it.

"..but if you seek God with your whole heart, He will reveal Himself to you."

No need to seek Him, He is within All of Us. Remember what Christ tried to tell us 2000 years ago... "Ye are Gods," but many still do not believe, because religious despots convinced them that they were unworthy.

"After becoming Christians, we aren't sinless, but we do sin less."

Why do you believe it isn't possible for a Christian to be sinless, because that is what your despots told you?

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 31, 1999.

Jesus is scheduled to appear at 11:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, December 31st on South Park, a Comedy Central program. Don't forget to set your VCRs!

-- Truk (truk@loc.moc), December 31, 1999.

The rapture Theory is false, The temple mount theory is false, The tribulation=3.5 years is false.

Take a look around you via history. Don't you kind of get the idea that the world is, has been, in trouble all this past century?

Want to read something interesting? These people actually consent to the idea they are Antichrist. Check out the link.



-- Mark Hillyard (, December 31, 1999.

A friend of mine sent the following info to me in an email (got it off the web - sorry, no link). It proves that 2000 is strictly a man- made arbitrary calculation. To think that God is planning the fulfillment of prophecies based on man's confused and convoluted time- keeping scheme is painting God in man's image. The only significance of the year 2000 is the computer problem - another flaw in mankind's time-keeping methods

"When is the new Millennium

Everyone knows what the first day of the year 2000 is, but there seems to be some confusion as to what the first day of the third millennium is.

If you do not think about it at all, January 1, 2000 seems the obvious date for the first day of the third Millennium. If you think about it just a little, January 1, 2001 seems the right date (since the first AD day of the current BC/AD calendar was January 1, 1 AD). However, a little thinking is often dangerous, and this is one case where it leads to the wrong conclusion.

Until about 1200 years ago, the years were marked by reference to some historical event (5 years after the flood, 2 years after the new king, etc). A monk about 1500 years ago first advocated numbering the years from the birth of Jesus, and this was adopted several hundred years later. Since new years were marked at the beginning of spring, the first date in this new calendar was at the spring equinox (about March 21, 1 AD. In 1582 AD, 10 days were dropped from the calendar (due to errors between the calendar and the sun's apparent position), and New Years Day was changed to January 1. All the years before 1582, including BC, were renumbered so that January 1 was the first day of the year. (The "April Fools" were the people who still celebrated New Years Day on April 1, since the spring equinox had presessed to about April 1 by then.)

It is now well documented that Jesus was not born in 1 AD. There are good cases made for many different years for Jesus's birth, all of which are between 8 BC and 2 BC.

So why should January 1, 1 AD be celebrated? It was: defined about 525 years after the fact; changed about 1582 years after the fact; 3 months earlier than the original first day of 1 AD; evidently a day like any other day; not the birth year of Jesus. Is this really something whose 2000th anniversary ought to have a world wide celebration? NOT!

Since there is no reasonable start date for marking the millennia (or centuries, for that matter), the only rational choice is just to celebrate the zeros. This has been called the odometer method. Regardless of how many miles were on the odometer when you got the car, you celebrate the zeros as they roll by.

The beginning of the second millennium was feared (in the Christian world) because it seemed to be a likely time for the second coming of Christ (1000 years after what? - birth, death, resurrection, ascendance). The beginning of the third millennium is feared for a much more concrete reason (Y2K computer problems) and also on a very specific date (Jan 1, 2000)."

-- Bruce (When@are.we?), December 31, 1999.

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