Time Bomb Forum Down.........What's the real reason?

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There is a message when you enter the main Time Bomb 2000 site that basically says it is being shut down until someone buys him a new Server because the existing one can't handle a robot that is making 10 requests per second.........

And this just happens on December 28th.....HUH!!

What would be so hard about creating a bit of code to search for the IP Address of the alleged robot and deny requests to that address??

The whole thing smells very funny........Is it perhaps a save face strategy or an effort to stave off potential lawsuits from those that were harmed by believing a lot of the crap that was posted there?

Any ideas? Like I said, the whole thing smells really funny.

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), December 29, 1999

Answers

Utter bullshit or incompetency......you decide.......

The other forums such as this work great.......

So why not move this forum to a different URL, do a test for the robots IP address in an IF THEN ELSE routine. If not the robot then redirect the user to the new URL and if the robot redirect it to a page that is full of repetitive crap............

By killing the site all you are doing is playing into the hands of the extreme doomers who will be convinced that it is all part of a government conspiracy.....is that what the site owners want??

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), December 29, 1999.


Craig, TECH 32, anyone still online?

Is this offing of the TB2000 forum the work of c4I? They/he/she/it was just exposed today. Hmmmm....

-- Sara Nealy (keithn@aloha.net), December 29, 1999.


I just know I'm going to regret asking but this but here goes....

What on God's green earth is c4i? Please tell me it is something real and not in the category of chemtrails.

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), December 29, 1999.


Sara,

I'm still here.

-TECH32-

-- TECH32 (TECH32@NOMAIL.COM), December 29, 1999.


Craig, see c4I thread I started here to explain (Evelyn Wood speedreading method style) to cin.

-- Sara Nealy (keithn@aloha.net), December 29, 1999.


Craig, As I answered to a thread above, "LadyLogic" had begun a *major* spam attack just before the forum puked and died.

-- just another (another@engineer.com), December 29, 1999.

Hello,

Not so fun when it happens to you, is it?

I think I will email Y2KPro the keys to this board, and allow HIM to determine what stays up and what gets deleted.

Seems only fair.

Jonathan

-A computer glitch will not bring about the end of civilization. It takes hordes of panicking people to do that.-

-- Jonathan Latimer (latimer@q-a.net), December 29, 1999.


Maybe Phil just got fed up with it...

On a common sense note:

LUSEnet/Photo.net often freezes for a few minutes because of too much traffic - it's not the most powerful server on the planet.

The TB2000 thread had over 300'000 posts at the last count. This is several times more than all the posts in all the other threads put together.

The TB2000 is the equivalent of the planet Jupiter - more massive than every other thread put together, full of nasty poisonous gas, and enough gravity to attract every insane extremist in the entire universe.

I'll take Phil at his word - it's quite plausible that people are downloading the entire thread so they can post their favourite bits (like The Exposer). Whatever happens on January 1, the mountain of extremist drivel that is/was TB2000 will become quite an important document. I wish I had a "copy".

-- Matthew (mdpope@hotmail.com), December 29, 1999.


I agree with Matt. Phil may have decided TB2000 was a bit more trouble than it was worth... It's his hardware, after all -- I don't blame him. Anyone want to donate a server?

-- mil (millenium@yahoo.com), December 29, 1999.

It is his hardware......however to take away the use 3 days before the big event after being up for 2 years is plain utter bullshit......not remotely reasonable......

There has to be an ulterior motive...........

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), December 29, 1999.



why don't you pissy pants whinning doomidiots go spew your horseshit somewhere else?

-- GET LOST! (you@re.pathetic!), December 29, 1999.

Craig,

Phil's posted explanation is quite realistic and plausible.

>What would be so hard about creating a bit of code to search for the IP Address of the alleged robot and deny requests to that address??

A) It's robot_s_ (plural).

B) Will you please post your algorithm for determining whether a given request is from a robot or not, in time to take the action you recommend while it can still effectively avoid the overloading of the server?

>The whole thing smells very funny ...

Adjust your nose, please.

-- No Spam Please (nos_pam_please@hotmail.com), December 29, 1999.


To the sys admin...

I understand that you don't want 95% of your resources going to one newsgroup - but I think you need to understand the significance of the next two days for those who DO post here - please offer an alternative spot for them to congregate in your "SHUT DOWN" page for them. Anything - somewhere where they can congregate to discuss alternative solutions.

Look there's a newsgroup called comp.software.year-2000.tech which is virtually empty of posts - until this board is back up and running - I suggest that you put in your "shut down" message that they congregate there to find a better alternative until your board is back up for them - or congregate there to see "where they are moving"

Here is what your opening message can read.

blah..blah..blah..

But we do understand this disussion at this point is very important to you. Please go to comp.software.year-2000.tech until this forum is reopened or you as a collective group find a better alternative. The above mentioned nesgroup is virtually vacant, so an intrusion for a few days or so should NOT be a problem.

Anyone who's found this - please post a "fowarding address" in comp.software.year-2000 if you have a better solution.

Whit :)

-- Whitney (WhitInWa@aol.com), December 30, 1999.


Sorry I meant to say

Anyone who's found this - please post a "fowarding address" in comp.software.year-2000.tech

if you have a better solution.

Whit :

-- Whitney (WhitinWa@aol.com), December 30, 1999.


Very good idea Whitney.......of course I don't expect it to happen.

REASON WHY? As I've said from the beginning, the whole thing smells funny.............

IMHO this problem is a convenient way for them to back away from the Y2K arena and possible repercussions from a lot of the crap that has been posted here.........

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), December 30, 1999.



>IMHO this problem is a convenient way for them to back away from the Y2K arena and possible repercussions from a lot of the crap that has been posted here.........

Gee, Craig, if your humble opinion were correct, then (A) why would Phil and others be putting effort into bringing the forum back up so soon, and (B) why wouldn't they have taken it down a long time ago?

Adjust your nose, please.

-- No Spam Please (nos_pam_please@hotmail.com), December 30, 1999.


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