PAGING WILLIAM IN DALLAS AND LISA IN TX--LET'S COMPARE NOTES

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William in Dallas, ya out there? I am here in Plano. Been a long time participant in this forum. As the rollover gets closer I thought it would be interesting to share notes w/someone who is in the same area. I have good tabs on what is going on in Plano and Grand Prairie.

I know Lisa on this forum is 2 hours northeast of Dallas, maybe she could keep us filled in from....I am guessing here....New Boston? Texarkana?

-- preparing (preparing@home.com), December 27, 1999

Answers

We live in Belton, and work in Austin. Will attempt to keep you informed of Fort Hood activity, grocery and gas supplies in Belton/Temple, and any travel restrictions, after Tuesday nite.

Shopped Albertson's today and filled my cart from the fully stocked supplies, without feeling like I was stealing from the church. I may even go back for more tomatoes, one can never have enough tomatoes or beets.

Will fill both vehicles tomorrow.

-- gardiner (gardiner@vvm.com), December 27, 1999.


Preparing-

I'm over in Rockwall and it's pretty quiet except for some recent news stories about the politicos and law enforcement folks having meetings to discuss various contingencies,etc. For some UNKNOWN reason they forgot to invite all of us ----(fill in the blank) to their local discussions. Must be related to national security or something........I know there might be some issues to discuss privately but, they could've brought us up to speed on 911, water, fire, police readiness and so on. I guess it's just my fault for wanting to informed.......when am I going to learn?

-- jb (jb@coolmail.net), December 27, 1999.


Gardiner and JB, thanks, we got almost the whole Texas gang here now?

Anyone else?

Still looking for William and Lisa...

there's also Mia in Houston, new to the forum, but a GI.

JB, sure wish the folks in Plano had even HAD a meeting about Y2K. I know a city councilman and it is a non-issue to them.

If you go to the City of Plano web page, they have a page dedicated to Y2K in which they assert all city systems will be compliant by July 99 and they would be finished testing by October. When I emailed several key people to find out if that indeed happened, my emails were never answered. My phone calls have never been answered. My snail mail letters have never been answered. Makes ME feel pretty good.

-- preparing (preparing@home.com), December 27, 1999.


Please email me. I am at Lake Buchanan, and would like to participate.

-- Earl (eshuholm@tstar.net), December 27, 1999.

Earl: Where is Lake Buchanan, if you don't mind me asking?

-- preparing (preparing@home.com), December 27, 1999.


I'm in far NW Houston. Have been lurking for months (posted a few times using other e-dresses). NOT noting any unusual activity in our area today. Incredible.

-- KC (webmaven@worldnet.att.net), December 27, 1999.

Not much new in the North of FortWorth area. I noticed a few people filling 5 gal cans at the local Justin Fina station but that could be anything. Was in the Sam's club in Lewisville yesterday and noticed no obvious carts full of preparation items. Home Depot in Denton well stocked.

More people talking about Y2K in our little town but most are more worried about how to help the neighbor whose house burned down the yesterday. (Looks like a space heater fire.)

-- Jim (jimed@iglobal.net), December 27, 1999.


We're out here on a farm near Athens (east Texas). Moved here due to Y2k over a year ago and don't ever want to go back to the Dallas area. Three of our adult kids and their familes have relocated with us. One still in Dallas area but she'll be joining us for New Years, JIC.

We'll let you know what is happening to this part of Texas. Put us on your email list.

-- CAI (cai2k@flash.net), December 27, 1999.


Thanks, everyone, actually, I didn't really know how I was going to do this when I first posted this....email list? Post on here with a certain pre-determined subject heading? ("Calling All Texans"?) I don't know. I just figured for the next few days we could sort of update each other so that we have a good idea of what is rolling around in our great state. Any ideas?

-- preparing (preparing@home.com), December 27, 1999.

Lake Buchanan is between Llano and Burnet, about 65 miles northwest of Austin. And it's pronounced Buck-Cannon (short "u" in that first syllable).

I'm near Seattle myself, but thought I'd chime in with the answer to the Lake Buchanan question. My whole family's in Dallas, Austin, and south of Luling. (Mostly DGIs, unfortunately...)

-- Don (whytocay@hotmail.com), December 27, 1999.



Well I'm out here in the woods near Longview Tx, but all I can tell you about is what happens along the hundred yards of county road which fronts the property. Ha Ha, that's about as close to civilization as I'll be getting for a while.

-- Nikoli Krushev (doomsday@y2000.com), December 27, 1999.

Preparing...

Email me. I can set up a closed "Texan" forum or email list if needed. This forum will be down starting sometime 12/31, I believe.

KC

-- KC (webmaven@worldnet.att.net), December 27, 1999.


I am a programmer/farmer who lives a dual life for the moment(grin). Going back and forth from Dallas to Bryan/College Station area, I see little preparation by city or country folk. Wal-mart in College Station seemed to be well stocked, except that 25# rice was out-of- stock. Northern Tools in Plano has a Huge supply of generators. My email is 'good' if anyone wants to talk about local stuff.

-- Possible Impact (posim@hotmail.com), December 27, 1999.

Hi y'all,

We're here in Montgomery County, (North of Spring) and the local HEB actually had a few small propane bottles, "strike on box" (not "anywhere"..:) large matches, paper plates and cups etc... a sorta "mini y2k display".

Otherwise, there were some big holes on the shelves at local Albertson's water aisle, but no one seemed to be stocking up on canned goods, TP or anything in particular. Amazing!

Stopped to fill up car, as I most likely won't be driving anywhere for several days...but station was pretty empty of customers. Gosh, I guess I was "hoarding" gas then, and I filled my tank FULL! (grin)

-- Birdlady (Birdlady@nest.home), December 27, 1999.


Nothing unusal in the Houston/Sugar Land/Richmond area. Bought ammo today at Walmart...no lines. Will fill the 55 gallon barrels tomorrow and do last minute prep stuff. All seems calm in this area. Thanks for starting this thread!!!

-- quielty (quietly@preparing.com), December 27, 1999.


North of Carrollton on Lewisville Lake.

Interested in joining a Texas Forum or email list.

I established a list for Oklahoma. Y2kOK

To subscribe to Y2kOK ... http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/y2kok

4, Lisa L.

-- Lisa (not the one you are looking for) L. (zeaal@mindspring.com), December 27, 1999.


There's lots of old-time posters in Texas. Gayla, in Houston, Greybear in NE Tex, and me, down on the bayou close to Beaumont. After my thread about my travels in the Texas countryside lately, I got email from several others.

I too, would like to participate in a Texas forum, espectilly if it can be started before this one is shut down for the CDC.

Went out today, and absolutely NO lines anywhere (well, I didn't go to the mall). Grocery store and gas station were almost deserted. No news alerts locally, and NO civic preparation of any kind. Been watching for it for two years, now, and I am finally convinced that no one in any leadership position wants to broach the subject.

Sure hope we're wrong, and they're lucky.

Email is real.

Lon

PS - Earl, I grew up in Kingsland (when it was still pretty)

-- Lon Frank (lgal@exp.net), December 27, 1999.


I'm over in Rockwall and it's pretty quiet except for some recent news stories about the politicos and law enforcement folks having meetings to discuss various contingencies,etc. For some UNKNOWN reason they forgot to invite all of us ----(fill in the blank) to their local discussions.

I'm near Sulphur Springs, about 80 miles E of Dallas on I-30. As a member of RACES (Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service), I have been informed of the contingency plans of Sulphur Springs, as RACES volunteers make up a significant portion of those plans. I was amazed and pleased to hear that they are taking this very seriously, lining up generators, fuel sources, and other contingency items to keep all essential services going as long as possible. By the way, my wife Susan and I are going to be on call as emergency communications providers for the local hospital if the phones go down.

-- Steve Heller (stheller@koyote.com), December 27, 1999.


preparing: Nothing going on in Hood County. If anything happens to the electricity here I will not report it because I don't have a short wave and will be putting distance between me and Commanche Peak!

-- Neil G.Lewis (pnglewis1@yahoo.com), December 27, 1999.

Here I am, Preparing!

and yes, you are quite right. I am in Texarkana. I will be more than happy to report what is going on in this neck of the woods. Here is an update:

Dec 23, 24, 26th - Wal-Mart is out of oil and oil lamps, low on propane, no kerosene (don't know if they really ever had it am getting conflicting info from employees), water has not been touched, batteries, flashlights, TP, all in full supply.

Target - shelves are virtually full.

Lowe's - Kerosene Heaters - gone, Kerosene - I bought the last three 5 gal cans yesterday. Interesting to note that one of the stockers said that some guys in cammo came in and cleaned them out. One of the checkers said that building materials were flying out the door with folks building outhouses and the like. Said she would swear that Lowe's had invented Y2K just to increase sales...(that is not really funny, but I had to chuckle)

Here is the good one - The dollar stores are CLEANED OUT. BONE DRY. I went around to a couple today just to see if I could pick up some last minute stuff cheap. Notta bottle of water, roll of TP or pair of pliers to be found. Guess the GI's in these parts are frugal!

Sam's - All out of small bottles of propane, but plenty of the 5 gallon. Beaucoup of water in every size. Most all items are plentiful.

Gas stations - No lines, no rush.

The local Gubmint is still treating Y2K as a public relations campaign. Don't even get me started! CLUELESS. They just keep telling us that Texas will break away from the grid if the national grid goes down. Swears that Texas is "self-sustaining" and not to worry. They will disconnect us if they see problems, blah, blah, blah. Water officials keep saying "If you are ready(electric), we are ready." Doesn't that make you shiver?

Well, enough for now. Will post another update tomorrow am. Did I miss anything?

-- LZach (lisa@texasnetworks.com), December 27, 1999.


Being a born and bred Texan, I am very intrested in participating....live approx 35 miles north of Houston..

Dennis

-- D.R. Green (greenshouse@hotmail.com), December 27, 1999.


Nikoli! I didn't know that we were neighbors! This is great..small world, huh?

Prep..had another idea. I can set up a forum on our website that is hosted on our server ( they are going to be staying up) for the Texan forum if you would like. I can have my crack staff on it first thing in the morning and have it up by afternoon. How's that?

What does everybody think? Let me know and we will get on it ASAP in the am!

-- LZach (lisa@texasnetworks.com), December 27, 1999.


Through me in with the East Texas group too! My wife gives me a report every morning as she works at a Wal Mart Supercenter in Longview. She only has a couple Y2K purchases come through her checkout line each night over the last week.

-- MS (msnebby@etnet.net), December 27, 1999.

that sounds great LZach, I'm sure everyone would appreciate the effort, I know I would.

-- Nikoli Krushev (doomsday@y2000.com), December 27, 1999.

The BearDen is, in fact, sorta northish from Ft. Worth. That's as specific as I get in public.

Would love to participate in discussion with other Texans. Nik and a couple others have my real email addy.

Y'all missed a good get-together back in the spring. Reckon it's too late now. If we're able, let's try to do another sometime in Jan/Feb.

If someone does get a group together, you gotta watch *close* for that Lon guy trying to sneak in. He's a CAJUN, pure and simple. Don't be fooled because he's been over here a couple of times, know the name of a few towns and can say Y'all pretty convincingly. Course you gotta watch *all* them Cajuns. If yoa not kerfull they be fo or tree of dem snekin in alla time and yoa starts too soun jess lik em.

-Greybear

-- Got Maps?

-- Greybear (greybear@home.com), December 28, 1999.


We're here in Colleyville - northeast Tarrant County. Last week the checkout lady at Target in Grapevine asked me if I was preparing for Y2K (as she skanned a bottle of lamp oil). When I said yes, she pulled out a hand-written list (4 columns) of what she thought she might need and asked me to look at it for her to see if she'd forgotten anything! We went to Sam's tonight in Richland Hills and there was a huge display of bottled water (about 20' long) by the checkout stands. I also bought a neat AC/DC emergency power source there (battery & inverter that will charge off of electrical, generator, or solar power) If there's a Texas or D/FW forum, I'd like to be included. Thanks!

-- Kshaw (shaw1@flash.net), December 28, 1999.

Count me in. I'm near White Rock Lake here in Big D. Hello Nikoli. Recently ventured into your "neck-o-the-woods" (Carthage) looking for a Bug-Out spot... You have to be going specifically to Carthage...it's not "on the way" to anywhere. Waited too late now but have relatives with lots of land in Mt Pleasant if necessary. Think it's a good idea to set up this e-mail net for "perimeter/area" coverage. Wife and I went to SAM'S Mon. night for two "flats" of preps. Seemed very slow. We felt a little wierd with all of the stuff we had... compared to other shoppers. Seemed those preparing were looking for flashlights and chips...oh well, who knows. And STEVE HELLER, hello bud and 73's (saw you taking some heat from a few morons here a few days ago..started to jump in to your defense but you seemed scrappy enough to handle the situation on your own)...I sure need your help/advice re. my HAM setup for battery operation - I have gone into "Info Overload". You helped me on another issue a few weeks ago. Have Tech Plus and passed the 13WPM but haven't taken General Written yet.(Learning curve to time ratio) has just been too steep!(KD5ICJ) Was born and went to college about 30 mi. W West of your place. To all...Will be "standing-by" to offer and/or receive any updates via email or net. Best to all

Larry

-- Larry (Rampon@cyberramp.net), December 28, 1999.


I'm not in Texas (drove through the panhandle once when I ferried my father's car from MI to NM after he moved to there), but, one of my exes lives in Texas (to coin a phrase) as does one of my daughters. I'm worried -- my daughter is in her early 20s, knows everything (or so she thinks) and is *faintly* "GI", but completely un-prepped. And *very* flighty. Her mother and stepfather are completely "DGI", but are at least there, for whatever help they may be able to provide. (My daughter lives in the same general region.)

They live near Dallas. I don't know what, if any problems they may encounter -- apart from whatever would be endemic to *any* major metropolitan area.

We're sending enough KI for all of them, in case there's any probs with nuclear plants (I don't know if any are near) or terrorists (I hope none are near), and tried to reason with her, but she's in the "I'm an adult now, I know everything" phase -- and I'm an old fogey who's terminally unhip, I guess.

Don't know why I'm posting this, other than because I'm worried...

-- Ron Schwarz (rs@clubvb.com.delete.this), December 28, 1999.


Greybeard - "a little north of FW" includes a lotta Oklahoma., you need to be a little more specific there.......

Wife and I from San Antonio originally, born in Austin, went to school at A&M; still have family around Schertz, Lake Medina, Bastrop/Luling/Red Rock/Rockne, Corpus, Houston/Katie, etc. Let me know what's going on...

...once you have lived in Texas for a while, you're always "from Texas" thereafter.

-- Robert A Cook, PE (Marietta, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), December 28, 1999.


Hi to All My fellow Texans,

I'm located in North Texas, otherwise known as the Panhandle or "Top of the Texas Star". Is almost the "Night Before Changeover" and nary a mouse is stirring up here....all the store shelves are stocked to the brim and the only shoppers making any noise are the ones exchanging X-mas presents at the malls.

Recently I took a new job that involves canvassing Low income/High crime neighborhoods so I get to look in other people's homes and hear their concerns. Lots of them are concerned with the roll-over and say things like..."As soon as the New Year is past, I'll get to that if the lights are still on". I believe that there are many more people preparing than we are aware of, and they're not so asleep as to believe all the government spin. In this neck of the woods most are not so trusting of the government, or perhaps its just the neighborhoods that I've recently visited that have more of this type of attitude.

My plans are the same....bug-out to the farm in SE Kansas if necessary (have mapped all the back roads and have plenty of gas to make it). Can't leave before New Years though, daughter is starring in "Rocky Horror X-Mas Show" and has midnight performance on NY's eve, and I find it difficult to disrupt her life if all turns out to be BITR.

Now for the personal notes.....Waving at Greybear (alls ready, got the SUE bag etc and mucho more....not to worry, I'll be fine).

R.C.....Just knew you had to be an "Old Texan", the way you tipped your hat an all. ;-)

I also would be interested in a Texas forum (e-mails real), count me in! I'm here and lurking though not posting much lately, but here's wishing all the best to my Sister & Brother Texans! We'll make it just fine be it the best or the worst of Y2k, have never known a hardier lot than us Texans.

-- Cary Mc from Tx (Caretha@compuserve.com), December 28, 1999.


Hello from another Texan. Live 80miles north of Houston. Work at a Sam's and yes they are preping here. Generators pretty much sold out. Plenty of food and basics, but much has been sold. Not much conversation however. Keeping it to themselves. Been preping all year for my family. Mostly DGI's, but hasn't changed my mind. I've never been a gambler. A young boy on top of a flat cart piled high with supplies called out to me yesterday, "we're getting ready for the millennium." I'd love to be on the email list. jab tarwater@tca.net

-- joann booker (tarwater@tca.net), December 28, 1999.

Robert,

I knew all along that you had the "double defictive" gene - Texan AND Aggie.

Me too. My cop education was from A&M extention. Not a grad but the most hours I have are from A&M, so if I can claim any place that's it. I'm discounting my Ph.D. from the Collegeum Obdura Vita

I guess if you can't be in Texas, being near Kenesaw is the next best.

As noted above, watch out in these Virtual get-togethers of Texans for that nerdowell Lon. He keeps espousing a Bona Fide but I think it is just a Jumbalaya induced delusion.

Either that or he's just clowning around.

Y'all Come See Us, Now.

-Greybear

-- Greybear (greybear@home.com), December 28, 1999.


Please include me on any e-mail/discussion lists that may be established in the near future. Could be a very effective idea even post-Y2k.

-- saveamerica (gfc40@hotmail.com), December 28, 1999.

Llano County, Texas here (includes Lake Buchanan to the west). Here's what's happening in the city. The City Manager, most council folks ignored Y2K despite questions etc. until two weeks ago when they were visited by officials from the Lower Colorado River Authority -- the city's source for power. That got their attention. And planning began last week. LCRA was quoted in the local weekly saying they didn't expect any problems but were concerned about vandals. (Cover story?)

Two employees with the city were sent to LCRA in Austin and trained for one day to do a cold start-up on the local power system.

When the CMgr. was asked, "What happens if there is a Y2K failure he pointed to a storage tank that holds about 15 gallons of diesel. When the CMgr. was asked, "What happens when that runs out?" the reply was, "We'll just drive into town and get more."

At a council meeting on Dec. 20th, after everyone had left but the council members, the CMgr. gave a Y2K update. He said that everthing should be ok except for billing (the city has its own utility with 75- 80% of all revenues coming from that source. When the CMgr was asked what people living at home with critical power-dependent health care systems should do, he replied, "I guess they're on their own."

The municipal judge is parking his RV with generator outside City Hall to run 911 services. Police, fire department, etc. will be stationed at all convenience stores and both local grocery stores to prevent looting, etc.

No local computer-savy folks were ever consulted regarding Y2K. The Cmgr. & council are clewless regarding anything having to do with computers.

There have already been at least two Y2K failures with businesses in town. Buttery Hardware, the largest employer had a Y2K billing failure and sent out notices stating the billing was in error. The local Pizza Hut couldn't place orders for pizza for an entire day due to Y2K computer update. Orders for all other menu items were were processed normally. Neither stories made the local paper.

I design web sites and have several business contacts. They're all indifferent to Y2K.

-- Ira Kennedy (ira@texfiles.com), December 28, 1999.


Hello, fellow Texans.

We live about halfway between Houston and Dallas, in the woods. We don't talk to very many people about y2k because we don't want to be remembered if times get tough. Do not think very many here are doing anything about it because they believe the government pr.

The effects of y2k may not get serious until summer/fall. Please put us on your mailing list, because there is more than scenario to prepare for.

-- George (newsrc@txcyber.com), December 28, 1999.


YES, Lisa in Texarkana, please set it up....and thank you for offering, as I am terminally computer handicapped. It is amazing I ever found this forum. Never learned how to do those funky font things or putting something at the top of the list, etc. Also never learned how to hotlink.

So everyone interested in the TX forum, do we need to give you our real email addys or do we just learn the name of the forum? Password protected?

Let us know.... and thanks again!

And thanks to all who have chimed in. My, I had NO idea there were so many Texans here. And a lot in the DFW area. We are nicely spread out, I would say.

BTW, I went to Texas A &M, too, Class of 1992. WHOOP!

-- preparing (preparing@home.com), December 28, 1999.


I too am a Texan, tho have transplanted up into the Rockies. Raised in the Lower Rio Grande Valley, an alumnus of both Aggieland and (yeah, I KNOW - Blasphemy) tu among other of Texas' fine institutes of higher learning.

Last residence back home, prior to my relocation, was in Webster and Houston.

Sure would love to keep track of the goings on back there ... so please include me as well.

Nice to see the Lone Star State so well represented here.

Laters y'all,

Rev ThunderLight

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 28, 1999.


Hey, what a great idea...a Texas forum sounds like a good deal. Sign me up - the addy to real, even though I often feel I'm not anymore!!

Things seem pretty calm where I am. Went to Lowe's for the millionth time today and did notice several folks buying flashlights, batteries, and little stuff. A friend went to TSC and they were out of the one burner propane indoor heaters, but had several of the doubles. I don't know what it all means, but I fear the folks BELIEVE the PTB.

Robert, glad to hear you are an AGGIE....Thought you might have some Texan in you somewhere as you've been downright helpful!

I don't post much, but I sure do lurk a lot. Feel like you all are family and hope to hear from you on the other side.

God bless you all,

-- dr. ben (benalurker@usa.net), December 28, 1999.


I mostly just play in Bok's chatroom, but I'm from Texas, too. (About halfway between Houston and Austin) Houston television stations showing people stocking up, haven't seen it myself. Texans are the best!

-- Pamela S. (pamela_sue57@hotmail.com), December 28, 1999.

May as well chime in, too. Been posting and lurking about two years; not posting much lately due to all the noise.

I'm about 20 miles north of Longview at Lake O the Pines, work in Longview.

About nine months ago there was a whole passel of Texans here, and Greybear organized a get-together in Ft. Worth. I was unable to make it, but think a Texans group is a grand idea. Count me in.

-- Vic (rdrunner@internetwork.net), December 28, 1999.


email is real, BTW.

-- Vic (rdrunner@internetwork.net), December 28, 1999.

This lisa is from cen-tex (Lago Vista), why I didn't reply.......

Interesting about the Lake Buchanan thing - also interesting Mark Rose (LCRA head) just retired.

I'd love to be on any Texan mailing list...

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), December 28, 1999.


Pamela ...if you're "halfway between Houston and Austin" - you've probably driven/walked/rose past the remains of the old chimney's my great-great grandfather built in his way towards Bastrop from Indianola. (They finally ended up in the German communities around Rockne.) If you were driving, many of the roads in that area were orignally paved and bridged by my grandfather's TX road crews. Don't know for sure which ones he actually finished paving though - but most started as dirt/rock nightmares.

Greybear: My dad's folks wound up in the Waxahatchie/Waco area after leaving Kansas/getting driven out of Kansas/evacuating Kansas during the early Civil War. ( It appears just how enthusiastic they were about leaving depends on who is telling the story.) Originally had settled in TN, but they seem to have left there in early 1850's to go to Kansas - that got them wrapped in the raids and early fighting before the "regular" war finally broke out in Charleston.

Dad, mom attended tu; but most of the kids went to A&M, one to the Naval Academy, a few to other schools via various paths.

-- Robert A Cook, PE (Marietta, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), December 28, 1999.


Count me in. Live About 10 mi. out of Tyler,have a daughter who lives next door that is a RN at Mother Francis in Tyler.They had her draw a map of where she lives last week in case she had to be picked up to stay there for a while. Also my son from Bascom Ridge N.J. who works for ATT at headquarters in Bascom Ridge is here with us.I am only on Webtv & am worried it might go down but he has his computer with him for his meetings so maybe I can be helpful. Joyce (JTtyler@webtv.net)

-- Joyce Dudek (JTtyler@webtv.net), December 28, 1999.

Hey Guys!

The Texas Forum is up and operational thanks to KCrowley. He had already gotten started on it yesterday and there was no need for me to duplicate efforts! It really is a pretty cool site.

He doesn't want me to publically announce the URL because he doesn't want *you know who* along with the trolls and pollys to invade us, SO, email me and I will shoot you the address!

I have tried to email all the ones on this thread with real addys. Feel free to email your Texas friends!

-- LZach (lisa@texasnetworks.com), December 28, 1999.


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