Flagstaff, AZ. It has alredy started!

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This morning at !0:00 am in Flagstaff, Air Touch Celluar went down and is still down at 2:45. Harkins theaters main doors would not open, no running water, had to go on generators. Avendale, Az., last night 5 shelters went up according to Phoenix police officer, they are for people who have not prepared for y2k. Phoenix, all ham operaters have been called to help out with 911. I doubt that you will hear this on the news. Hope you all are ready.

-- Mat (marytower@webtv.net), December 27, 1999

Answers

Mat, any idea why these things happened? I don't understand Y2K stuff happening BEFORE Y2K unless it was due to testing. That is plausible considering this is the first weekday (workday) between Christmas and the end of the year.

Any ideas? Are you hearing about it through your local press or from direct sources?

-- preparing (preparing@home.com), December 27, 1999.


Nope, not a jot on the news, nor will there be until things become undeniable.

-- Forrest Covington (theforrest@mindspring.com), December 27, 1999.

Interesting ---

I work for Vodafone/AirTouch and have just checked with network engineering regarding US cell sites. NONE have been down in several weeks -- anywhere.

-- No Surprise - (standing@thebrink.now), December 27, 1999.


Mat, Stay Safe!!

I feel a mudslide coming ourway. (no pun intended, KOS)

-- LZach (lisa@texasnetworks.com), December 27, 1999.


Harkins theaters are new in the last 2 years, main doors are on timers, everything else is computerized. Have not yet heard exactly why doors would not open. Air touch, my friend got a call from another friend that while in the Air Touch office this morning the computers went down, this seems to be in the Flagstaff area so far. This is all word of mouth, from reliable friends who are y2k aware, not trolling. Will keep you up dated. Mat

-- Mat (marytower@webtv.net), December 27, 1999.


Thanks for this info, Mat. However, this does seem a tad early, unless as has already been suggested, it's testing going on. But testing on theatre doors?

Hang on folks, we ain't seen nothin yet.

-- Richard (Astral-Acres@webtv.net), December 27, 1999.


In a prior thread a few days ago, the idea was put forward that those systems (embedded?) that look forward one week would start showing problems this week. This is the first business day for any system that looks forward one week. Could this be part of the problem?

-- Bruce (find@that old.thread), December 27, 1999.

Could be one-week lookaheads, could be clock drift.

-- Ron Schwarz (rs@clubvb.com.delete.this), December 27, 1999.

This is just comfirmation that as of about 11:40 am pacific time Air Touch "inhouse" computers are down. I tried to activate my new pager that I got for Christmas and couldn't. I asked if the pager and phone service was down as well. She said it was just the inhouse system. I don't know if this has anything to do with y2k but would like to find out.

-- Sean (New Pager@no activation.com), December 27, 1999.

Ron, please excuse my ignorance, but I have seen clock drift mentioned a few times: what IS clock drift?

-- preparing (preparing@home.com), December 27, 1999.


I think Infomagic is from Flagstaff. It's all his fault

-- (anita997@awol.com), December 27, 1999.

US West long distance phone lines were down for 4-5 hours today, no ATMs, no banking, no credit card purchases, etc.... This was from 9- 2 today in the Prescott, AZ area. I do not know if other US West customers were effected.

-- Bill (y2khippo@yahoo.com), December 27, 1999.

Clock drift is just that. Sometimes your watch runs a bit fast. Other watches run a bit slow. Over time if the clock is not set it can get off by quite a lot. Sometimes the operator just puts in the wrong time. If y2k is going to be BIG we will see more of this in the next couple of days and by Friday should be seeing a whole lot of it.

-- (...@.......), December 27, 1999.

LZach: Do you like to mudwrestle?

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.cum), December 27, 1999.

I live in NC and a friend said last Friday that her bro who is a truck driver saw signs going up in NM andTexas "Roads closed-Marshal Law" Any confirmation on this?

-- Lori Baca Mcniel (lorimcniel@hotmail.com), December 28, 1999.


I can confirm the signs, we are seeing them here in Arizona also.

-- (hortence@erwekl.org), December 28, 1999.

This guy's full of beans. Nothing like that here in Flagstaff. Went to Harkins just fine- even used the bathroom.

There's going to be plenty of problems in a couple of days without spreading this garbage.

-- All clear in Flagstaff (noproblems@nonewhatsoever.com), December 28, 1999.


Hortence, where in Arizona have you seen these signs?

-- Mat (marytower@webtv.net), December 28, 1999.

If there were signs, I'd hope they'd remember to spell "Martial Law" - of course, that's an easy accidental error to make - but beware of rumors being spread - especially if specific "facts" inside the rumor are incorrect.

-- Robert A Cook, PE (Marietta, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), December 28, 1999.

This did happen, it happened yesterday morning, my friend told me that her friend works for a plumbing business and got the call first thing. Because everything is on computer nothing would work. They did however get the problem resolved, my friends daughter went to the theater by 11:00 and all was well. Know your facts before you speek, you might try some bean-o yourself.

-- Mat (marytower@webtv.net), December 28, 1999.

So how do you explain the fact that I had no problems making or receiving calls on my Air Touch cell phone all day yesterday? Or maybe I had the one Air Touch phone that worked?

-- All clear in Flagstaff (noproblems@nonewhatsoever.com), December 28, 1999.

I don't know who you are or what your game is, but you are probably right, you were the only one in Flag whos phone worked.

-- Mat (marytower@webt.net), December 28, 1999.

Methinks Mat, Horence and Lori have been giving each other English lessons...same syntax, same sorts of spelling errors. Remarkable.

-- (duh@duh.duh), December 28, 1999.

Maybe you meant Prescott?

http://www.azcentral.com/news/1228phones.shtml

Link

Prescott gets early Y2K drill

By Max Jarman The Arizona Republic Dec. 28, 1999

The Prescott area lost long-distance telecommunications contact with the rest of the world for more than two hours Monday, which provided a drill for the city's Y2K emergency plans.

The outage, blamed on faulty US West equipment in north Phoenix, knocked out emergency 911 lines from noon to 2:30 p.m.; took down automated teller machines; put computers off-line with the Internet and left 50,000 wire and wireless telephone customers unable to complete long-distance calls.

There were no apparent consequences to the 911 outage. The three Prescott-area agencies that respond to 911 emergency calls -- Prescott Police Department, Yavapai County Sheriff's Office and Central Yavapai County Fire Department reported that no emergency situations went undetected during the period.

Prescott-area 911 calls are routed to a monitoring firm in Minneapolis then back to Phoenix and on to the appropriate location in Prescott, explained Michelle Greiss, a supervisor at the Central Yavapai County Fire Department. With the long-distance outage, the calls didn't go through, she said.

US West spokesman Jim Roof said the 911 network in the Phoenix area would survive such an outage because of redundancy in the network and the fact the calls are not routed out of the area.

J.J. McCormack, a spokeswoman for Prescott, said emergency personnel responded by following a contingency plan developed for Y2K. They congregated at fire and police stations in the event people came there to obtain help or to report an emergency situation.

"Fortunately things were quiet," McCormack said.

Marjorie Rice, a spokeswoman for Wells Fargo Bank, said the automated teller machines and bank computers were down at the Prescott branches.

"It affected most of the banks in the area," Rice said.

But, like the emergency teams, Wells Fargo had a backup plan and was able to continue serving customers during the outage, Rice said.

Roof said the problem was caused by a processor in a north Phoenix switch station that "fried itself."

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-- Homer Beanfang (Bats@inbellfryl.com), December 28, 1999.


Homer, it was Flagstaff. I spoke with Air Touch this morning and they said that their phones where down until 4:00 p.m. No problem is obviously a troll.

-- Mat (marytower@webtv.net), December 28, 1999.

So why don't you post the number you phoned and the name of the person you spoke to, and prove that YOU'RE not the one trying to stir up problems?

-- All clear in Flagstaff (noproblems@nonewhatsoever.com), December 28, 1999.

No problem, I would be happy to give you the number, infact John at Air Touch is waiting for your call. 520-226-1000. I will be waiting for your apology.

-- Mat (marytower@webtv.net), December 28, 1999.

I spoke with John, and he said they have had no outages and no trouble whatsoever.

There will be plenty of problems out there without people inventing ones where they don't exist. Please don't try to start a problem. This is part of the reason why people find it so easy to discount those of us who are preparing.

-- All clear in Flagstaff (noproblems@nonewhatsoever.com), December 28, 1999.


NO PROBLEM, YOU ARE A LIAR! GET OFF MY POST!

-- Mat (marytower@webtv.net), December 28, 1999.

Look, stick to your guns all you want, but everyone will be calling AirTouch and they're going to find out just what a crank you are. Enjoy your moralizing while you can, because you and I both know who the liar is here and soon everyone else will know it, too.

I'll bet you just made up that stuff about the Harkins theater, just like you made up the bunko about Air Tough. Why would a theater have computer controls on running water? Why would they even have a generator? And it's a state law in Arizona, not to mention a federal law, that all doors have to be accessible in the event of a power failure so that patrons can exit and emergency services can enter.

-- All clear in Flagstaff (noproblems@nonewhatsoever.com), December 28, 1999.


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