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As the week progresses, expect the truth about what the government, military and big business believe about y2k to emerge.

EVERYTHING said about Y2k prior to this week means nothing. As the week unfolds we will see and hear what they believe will happen. Already we have seen the Japanese announce 100,000 troops will be on the street. New York City will have 15,000 police - not including the private security and federal officials. London just announced that all entrances to the city will be blocked off, save 5 (or 7?) and the week hasn't even begun.

Pay attention to what they do, then make up your mind about what you think will happen. Forget the debate about 'just being prudent...", the bottom line is.... If there wasn't a problem with Y2k and the problems caused by 'the bug', they would not worry about it. Period.

-- Mark (markmic@kynd.net), December 27, 1999

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True dat. Amen.

-- preparing (preparing@home.com), December 27, 1999.

I think they would be afraid that the National Guard would cause people to get rebellious, but I'd bet that nearly every able-bodied police officer in the country will be on duty that night. No mention of Y2K though, they will say it is to keep an eye out for these phony terrorists that they've got everyone buying into with that pre-planned Canadian border story.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 27, 1999.

Really have to keep an eye on those crazy Canadians. Beware of anyone who eats pemmican and LIKES it!!!

-- justme (justme@myhouse.com), December 27, 1999.

Yikes! But don't worry about the Canadian pemmecin eaters,They will muddle through this just like their brethern to the south,but when said and done Ole Mother will breath a sigh of relief.Can you imagine a world without Chase Manhattan or the Dow Jones.Get those old walking shoes out and dust them off. practice you fire bulding.Get ready for some serious recycling. think about your cottage industry.Watch your backs. and cleve to the Constitution,Ya,and have fun around the campfires!

-- Cardboard box Eddy (Camping@usedtobefun.com), December 27, 1999.

careful justme ... there ARE other cultures here in US as well ... some of us have bloodlines that long pre-date those of European descent. And some of us were raised on pemmican, also known as "Indian Candy!" Where you think them 'Canadians' came up with it?

BTW: If it is made 'right,' it really is good ... the shredded dry meat has nuts and berries and all kinds of really good stuff nixed in it! :-)

Rev. ThunderLight

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 27, 1999.



umm ... 'mixed in with it' .... LoL --- must be getting late, yeah! That's it! Getting late. heeheehee

Getting this gov spin-doctoring down pat! :-)

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 27, 1999.


Just a thought. It seems that our spin masters have overlooked one aspect of the terrorists theory they are trying to shove off on us. If there was a real, I say again real threat, not a staged one, we would have them pouring in on us on all borders, not just Canadian. Not one thing have I seen about threats from any other direction. This must be a close link between the Klontonites and the Canadians. Do not try and tell me that the southern borders are that tightly controlled, nor the beaches from Cuba or Asia, or Europe, I think you can get the picture.

-- Notforlong (Fsur439@aol.com), December 27, 1999.

Reverend, no offense meant. 3/4 Celt, 1/4 Iroquois. DH is 1/2 Finn and 1/2 Canadian. Just never could stand the taste of all those nuts and berries mixed in with the good stuff 8)

-- justme (justme@myhouse.com), December 27, 1999.

Can you get pemmican at regular markets? Sounds good, I want to try it!

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 27, 1999.

God, I've seen smarter penguins waddling around Antartica than some of you guys.........penguins with half their brains missing......

Can you not get it into your skulls that they police or army or whatever are truly concerned about 2 groups of people, terrorists and freaked out Y2K fundies who are more trouble than the actual problem itself.

It seems that whatever government does will ALWAYS be called evil by some of you dopes. They are not expecting serious problems but are PRUDENTLY preparing for any unexpected problems.....if they did nothing you would criticize them and when they do something you shout just as loud!!

Perhaps some of you should buy a little island somewhere, live with no computers and no technology, keep the women barefoot, pregnant and bruised up, ride around in pick-up trucks with your shotguns and greet each other with "Hidey-ho Billy-Bob......say, did you see those contrails yesterday?.....perty scary huh.....why i nearly soiled my drawers."

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), December 27, 1999.



Greetings cousins; :-)

I'm 1/2 Seneca, 1/4 French Canadian Metis, and 1/4 Scottish.

Enrolled member of the Metis Nation of the South.

BTW - Iroquois is a derogatory name, means rattlesnake in Abernaki ... the true name of our nation is the Haudenosaunee - "People of the Long House"

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 27, 1999.


Hawk - for you my friend, I will post a recipe as soon as I can!

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 27, 1999.

Craig, the government knows goddam well that no terrorists are going to strike right at the turn of the millennium. There is no element of suprise, and law enforcement is going to be all over the place. Yeah right, a terrorist is going to just walk into a crowd of 10,000 cops and try to do something without getting caught, duuuh!

The gubmint wants to have all of their goons out because they are so paranoid that they always have to be in control. The people aren't going to cause any problems as long as they don't come around trying to control us and push us around.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 27, 1999.


Hey justme ... just had a thought ( no it is NOT an orphan - LoL )

You suppose that is where the phrase - "Don't Tread on Me!" originated?

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 27, 1999.


Thanks ThunderLight - I'd appreciate that! :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 27, 1999.


Craig, That Island sounds great! I think I found it! Hideho! I'm trading in my cardboard box tomorrow,Wanna come along?

-- Cardboard box Eddy (Camping@outusedtobefun.com), December 27, 1999.

And dont eat pickles on a monday....25% of all people who die in north america have eaten pickles on the Monday preceing their death!

So What: Last year there were just under 14,000 police officers dispatched in NY city on New Years eve. And have you ever tried to get in or out of London on a normal new years eve? I bet there is only a half dozen ways in and out at best...Ever heard of lying with statistics?

-- Danny Evans (dan_evans@bc.sympatico.ca), December 27, 1999.


Hey Reverend ThunderLight! I found one recipe... tell me what you think, and any improvements you might make.

Saskatoon Pemmican

Man, that sounds good, I can't wait to get started. I love jerky, and I especially like the idea of adding cayenne pepper (love spicy). It will make an excellent Y2K food because it stores for a long time.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 27, 1999.


Here ya go Hawk:

4 cups dried meat - depending on how lean it is, it can take 1 - 2 lbs. per cup. Use only deer, moose, caribou, or beef (not pork or bear). Get it as lean as possible and double ground from your butcher if you don't have a meat grinder. Spread it out very thinly in cookie sheets and dry at 1800 overnight or until crispy and sinewy. Regrind or somehow break it into almost a powder.

3 cups dried fruit - to taste - mix currents, dates, apricots, dried apples, or other fruits. Grind half only once, leaving some lumpy for texture, and the other half grind twice.

2 cups rendered fat - use only beef fat - aka tallow. (NOTE: Best is suet - which is the 'hard' fat off of the kidneys and is available at almost any reputable meat market.) Have the butcher double grind the rendered fat for you or cut available fat into small chunks (smaller the better) and heat over the stove over medium heat until the fat rind floats to surface. Tallow is the remaining liquid and can be poured off and strained. (BTW - tallow is what beeswax is mixed with to make candle wax. :-)

Unsalted nuts to taste and a shot of honey.

Combine in a bowl and hand mix. Double bag into four portions.

My grandmother used to roll into small individual balls and place in a fine woven flour sack bag, and allow to harden for a few days then put into a plastic container.

The mixture will last for quite a while without refrigeration. I have eaten it four years old. It actually improves with age.

HINT: Vary the fat content to the temperature in which it will be consumed. Less for summer. Lots for winter. Not only is it good energy food, but an excellent snack.

Enjoy!

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 27, 1999.


Saskatoon Pemmican

1 c Jerky; beef or venison 1 c Dried Saskatoon berries or dried blueberries 1 c Unroasted sunflower seeds or crushed nuts of any kind 2 ts Honey 1/4 c Peanut butter 1/2 ts Cayenne [optional]

This version uses peanut butter rather than melted suet or lard as the binding agent, which is more palatable for today's health conscious diets.

Grind [or pound] the dried meat to a mealy powder. Add the dried berries and seeds or nuts. Heat the honey, peanut butter and cayenne until softened. Blend. When cooled, store in a plastic bag or sausage casing in a cool dry place. It will keep for months.

From: Edible Wild Fruits and Nuts of Canada, published by the National Museums of Canada, ISBN 0-660-00128-4

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 27, 1999.


Hawk - Naww, that's that Canadian junk food version .... LoL

seriously, that is a pretty good version ... made some of that a year or so ago ... got it from same source ... I like the traditional version better though!

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 27, 1999.


You forgot the pickles

-- danny (dan_evans@bc.sympatico.ca), December 27, 1999.

Excellent - that sounds most awesome! I'm suprised I haven't heard of this being the lover of jerky that I am. Going to get started on a big batch right away in case the stores close next week. Thank You!! :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 27, 1999.

that's the side dish d'jour, Danny

sweet (pemmican) and sour (extra sharp kosher dills) :-)

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 27, 1999.


BTW: just one approximately 4 oz size ball (made to above recipe is about 2000 calories) .... :-)

toss in a corn muffin or two, or other source of fiber, add a few veggies ...

You have all the nutrition needed to provide a fully balanced meal of about 3500 winter calories ...

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 27, 1999.


You are most entirely welcome Hawk!

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 27, 1999.

Via con Dios my friend

(*V*)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 27, 1999.


boldoff

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 27, 1999.

hey hawk - drop me an e-mail ... sure would love to keep in touch.

sun_wolf13@hotmail.com

will pass on my 'real' e-mail addy with first reply!

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 27, 1999.


Yes, watch as they head to their safety bunkers all the while saying, "Y2k Ok"

-- Linda A. (adahi@muhlon.com), December 27, 1999.

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