Sysops? Please? Can give URL for downloading TB Database?

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I'd like to do it tonight while low traffic.... Thank you very much.

lisa not@work.now

-- lisa (lisa@casa.now), December 26, 1999

Answers

Lisa,

Try this (I think)...

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a.tcl?topic= TimeBomb%202000%20%28Y2000%29

...but I understand you want to set the download to "not" collect .gif or .midi files.

Someone who did it, shared that there are tricks they learned.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), December 26, 1999.


Diane? That link just takes me to 'new answers'......

Helium bought some software, 'Transport', for $40 for the download.........

-- lisa (lisa@casa.now), December 26, 1999.


From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr (pic), near Monterey, California

How much storage space do you suppose this would fill? I have about 20 spare 100 meg zip disks. I suppose I could get more if necessary.

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage), December 27, 1999.


Dancr, think it's 350 meg.

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), December 27, 1999.

If 350 meg...

6 hours on a dialup connection has gotten me 3.5 meg, that means I'll be at this for 600 hours... got T1 or DSL ?

-- Debbie (doing@it.now), December 27, 1999.



From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr (pic), near Monterey, California

Approximately 100 hours to midnight 2000-01-01 Eastern time. Maybe less to martial law. Somebody quicker needs to do the job.

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage), December 27, 1999.


From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr (pic), near Monterey, California

I've got some friends who may be able to do this d/l for me on a cable modem & then burn a CD... Where's the software for doing the download job? I'll be asking them to do Prep & Humpty Dumpty, too. One of them says if he can FTP he can do it easily. Otherwise he'd need something that can run on a Linux shell.

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage), December 27, 1999.


Nobody is going to be able to download sh*t if we don't get the goddam link!

Still waiting.....

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 27, 1999.


what link?

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage), December 27, 1999.

What, you can't read? Read the title to this thread, ya know, like, the original question? We are still waiting for the freaking link to the download.

That reminds me, whatever happened to that bimbo who was gonna write a book based on all of this... did she just take the money and run, or what?

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 27, 1999.



Oh well, I was going to download it on my cable modem and post the data it as a zip file so that it would take about 1/10th as long for everyone else to download... but I guess were not going to get the URL. Someone besides the sysops must know what it is. Still waiting....

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 28, 1999.

From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr (pic), near Monterey, California

I've just written to Philip Greenspun the following letter:

Hi. Congratulations on writing what I consider to be the most user friendly web forum software available today. I believe this software is the main reason behind the popularity of the TimeBomb2000 forum. There's good data there not just about how people interact online, but also about millennium fever (whether or not things go seriously south).

I've just learned of the possibility that MIT may be shutting down the server for a day or so during the roll-over. Before it goes, I would like to take a copy of the forum for personal use, in case of widespread problems with electrical service or internet viability. There's an incredibly valuable store of survival information here, as well as lots of puzzle pieces that may help us piece together how everything happened.

I have a couple of friends who are willing to help me with this. We're all on PC's, and also have access to Linux and several shells. Our hope is to download everything as much in tact as possible, and then burn it to a cd so that it would be less susceptible to Electromagnetic Pulse [EMP]. Ultimately, I'd like to be able to access it as easily as if the information were online.

Could you give us a clue as to how we might go about this? Is there a URL where the database can be downloaded? Can we telnet or use FTP to get it? Black Widow software didn't seem to do the job. Once we have it, will your software or something else allow us to view the threads?

Thanks for any help you can provide and best of luck to you in the coming year.

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage), December 28, 1999.


Hawk,

All I know is your have to start with the top level of the forum which is...

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a.tcl?topic=TimeBomb%202000%20%28Y2000%29

I've flagged someone who's done it, but he hasn't responded to this thread yet. (Using this s/w: http://www.tenmax.com/teleport/pro/home.htm)

Sorry.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), December 28, 1999.


Oh, thank you for looking into it ladies! I think you will be more likely to get a response. :-) Not a big deal I guess, just thought I might be able to make it a little easier for the slower modems. We still have a few days left before everything blows up! Good luck.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 28, 1999.

Using Teleport Pro (for Win95/98/NT) at http://www.tenmax.com

No special link for this forum; start by plugging-in the main URL (for the New Questions page), then add other "starting" URLs to the project as needed

s/w is easy to use and figure out and the result is just like being online.

Seems nearly done now - has reached 210 MB in size, using a dialup connection for about 12 hours now - went a lot faster than I thought!

-- Debbie (doing@it.now), December 28, 1999.



I just tried it and it has a limit of 500 files per project, then it just stops, so you have to start another project and try to figure out where it stopped. It would take about 20 projects to get all of the threads, or you have to buy the software to put it all in one. Thanks, but it's not worth the trouble for my needs.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 28, 1999.

From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr (pic), near Monterey, California

I reached the 500 file limit and didn't think about how I might start another project. I went ahead and registered online, only to find out that they'll send the reg code in about a day. That will cut my available hours to do the job about in half. I also cannot figure how to pick up where I left off, so I may have to sacrifice the 500 files that I already got. I've written to the company about these problems. We'll see if they speed things up or have a trick for restarting.

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage), December 28, 1999.


TO All;

I have sucessfully downloaded all of the TB2000 and prep forums. I have made a CD of this and it is less than 500Meg Total. There are some tricks if you are using Teleport.

1) Under the *Progect* tab use the starting address, or new starting address if you have already started the project, and set the URL for

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a.tcl?topic=TimeBomb%202000%20(Y 2000)

2) Set the Explore pages up to 2 links

3) Set addresses that begin with

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/

(not all of greenspun)

4) Under *Project* *Properties* *File Retieval* set to only retrieve text, htm, or html files.

5) Under *Project* *Properties* *Exclusions* enter the following URLs separated by carrage returns.

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/index.tcl

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-post-new.tcl?topic=TimeBomb%20 2000%20%28Y2000%29

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-unanswered.tcl?topic=TimeBomb% 202000%20%28Y2000%29

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-new-answers.tcl?topic=TimeBomb %202000%20%28Y2000%29

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/policy.tcl?topic=TimeBomb%202000%20%28 Y2000%29

http://www.yourdon.com

AND MOST IMPORTANT, exclude the Uncatigorized threads from your first download

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-one-category.tcl?topic=TimeBom b%202000%20%28Y2000%29&category=uncategorized

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You are ready to run, you will get about 50K threads. Next change to a new project with all the same excludes except for the uncatigorized thread, and set the starting address to:

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-one-category.tcl?topic=TimeBom b%202000%20%28Y2000%29&category=uncategorized

Make sure to put this in its own directory on your hard disk as it will exceed the limit for WIN98's file structrue.

_________________

When you make a CD you have to go in an mannually change all of the catigory links and page names as they exceed the length allowed for normal CDs,

If you have questions please email me the addy is real and I checkit about once a day.

GOOD Luck and Good Down loading

-- Helium (Heliumavid@yahoo.com), December 28, 1999.


Helium! Our hero! Seriously. *** THANK YOU ***

We believe TB2K is an invaluable historical archive detailing the Approach to a Big Event in human history. Unique, riveting, containing multiple articles and Links, telling the Story in such a way as to be worth a fortune to researchers for 100s more years.

Those who have FOLLOWED THROUGH and actually preserved this Forum, and its companion Forums, for posterity are to be most highly commended.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), December 28, 1999.


Wheeeeeeeeeew!!! What the HELL was that? I think my hair is singed! Why do I get the feeling someone tried to torch me behind my sleeping back?

Oh, now I see! It appears that A&L are feeling better, and are back to being their usual spiteful selves! Well, I'll tell you what A&L, I do not have any plans of buying that crappy software, but if YOU want to pay for it, I'll be happy to FOLLOW THROUGH with making a copy of the archives and preserving it for posterity.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 28, 1999.


Well, it didn't format worth a poo-poo. :( If people want me to try and repost it with the proper tabing I will, or they can email me and I'll send a copy in a boring text or zip file.

Gotta love formatting. Yick.

Jonathan

-A computer glitch yadda yadda-

-- Jonathan Latimer (latimer@q-a.net), December 28, 1999.


I must say, I have no problem with whether someone is a programmer or not. Not everyone can be a programmer! Where I get frustrated is with people who assume computers should give them EASY answers ... and they tend to be disappointed to find they have to provide organized information to the computer in order to get reliable responses.

-- Debbie (doing@it.now), December 28, 1999.

And please note that the above code does NOT try to do any sort of multithreading - in fact it is explicitly written to avoid multithreading. Multithreading will KILL a server if the client has a high bandwidth Internet connection.

-- woo.woo (noway@buggerit.com), December 30, 1999.

How deliciously ironic isn't it!

The facts that 99% of remediation is likely done and will work at least acceptably was constantly denied by the doomers..........

Nothing but criticism and pointing fingers at companies and governments for not doing enough to save our asses.....the constant TEOTWAWKI mindset.....the criticism of anyone who had anything positive to save by labelling them a Polly.......

And in the end........a completely foreseeable problem was not anticipated and taken care of by the very caretakers of the forum that let these doomers rant on and on and on!

Sweet justice that a computer oversight struck first at the very site that criticized everybody else...........

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), December 30, 1999.


The doomers killed their own site.........it's not fair.....aaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggggghhhhh...........

Didn't even give us fun loving moderates a chance to have a teensy- weensy bit of JavaScript fun during the rollover......wouldn't have hurt anything but would have had the doomers ranting and raving and convinced that 'Big Brother' was spying on them and their computer files..........

This is worse than retreating armies burning down their own villages so as not to leave anything for their pursuers......

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), December 30, 1999.


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