When is this site to be shut down, and where should we meet to find info of what is happining durring roll-over?

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Does anyone know when MIT plans on shutting down their server? How long do they plan on having it down? And where does everyone plan to go to get accurate news and info of what is happining?

-- Crono (Crono@timesend.com), December 26, 1999


From: bboard@greenspun.com To: spanda@inreach.com Subject: Response to SPECIAL NOTICE FROM SITE MANAGEMENT Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 13:14:09 GMT Reply-To: g_a_halonen@hotmail.com

All the computers at MIT, which this forum is based at, will be shut off by December.31.1999. (I'll have to train myself to write the full year digits :>) The staff stated that everything will be backed up beforehand. They say they will slowly and carefully start systems and try to handle problems as they arise. Hopefully this forum will come back intact.

Bill Dale can be written to at billdale@mail.com now.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Years to you and your family!!!


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-- Mitchell Barnes (spanda@inreach.com), December 26, 1999.

Hmmmm... we could all go over to De bunker.. I'm sure they'd love to have us :-)


-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), December 26, 1999.

Wherever it is, don't expect it to be easy. Mr. Greenspun has been tweaking this software for along time, trying to get rid of "server too busy" messages. Imagine the shock to the system, when we all land on some poor server...

Tick... Tock... <:00= ...

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), December 26, 1999.

Hmmmm... we could all go over to De bunker.. I'm sure they'd love to have us :-)

ROTFLMAOAAAAAAAAAAAAA Wouldn't that be a trip for all concerned!

-- I'm Here, I'm There (I'm Everywhere@so.beware), December 26, 1999.

y2knews.com has a decent board. (They even discuss chemtrails :0) That's probably where I'll head, but it would be nice to have some concensus. What do ya'll think?

Link to y2knews.com board:


-- Roland (nottelling@nowhere.com), December 26, 1999.

Well Roland, let's go ask them what they think. Tell them that we have a few friends, that we want to bring over for a "new years eve" party.

Let's see, a few hunderd regular posters, a few more hundred not so regular, a few hundred confirmed lurkers, and who knows how many others. We better let 'em know were comin' because they may have to call their caterer! <:)))=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), December 26, 1999.

And, we should inform the sysop about our "red list" and all of the trouble that comes with it! <:(=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), December 26, 1999.

Maybe the staff at MIT could use the help of Koskinen's staff. They haven't had any problems with anything, eh?

-- dotti (WineTopper@aol.com), December 26, 1999.

I confess to being still somewhat confooosed by this. When the article about MIT shutting down was first posted here, Diane e-mailed Phil and asked him if he was shutting down the LUSENET server. Phil replied that he had no intention of doing so. Has he changed his mind, or is this something he has no choice about?

-- (RUOK@yesiam.com), December 26, 1999.

RUOK - Gary Halonen's post is dated 25Dec99, the post you refer to that Diane posted [Greenspun's] is dated 17Dec99. FWIW.

I am surprised that all list owners and maintainers have not been notified by MIT, being a list maintainer myself.

-- Mitchell Barnes (spanda@inreach.com), December 26, 1999.

csy2k, is public, accessable, isn't connected to any one server, is already dedicated to y2k & is archived by at least Deja.com & remarq.com. Newsreaders user determined have killfiles.

-- Mitchell Barnes (spanda@inreach.com), December 26, 1999.


You might want to look somewhere else then www.y2knews.com to nest after this forum disappears. As reported in another thread, Y2KNEWS will cease to exist after this week and they run the y2knews.com site as well. There is no longer any money to be made from Y2k so these profit mongers will be gone. MIT will wisely close this fear sty down and that will leave the privately funded sites for the doomers to find, and they too will fade into the sunset. Sounds like a major system shock for the lunatic fringe.

-- Look (at@the.facts), December 26, 1999.

What I am looking for is an idea of where to go to get good information before and after the rollover. I am open to serious suggestions. Where the BB resides makes no difference to me. Crono's original question is valid and I see no answers to it as of yet...


-- Roland (nottelling@nowhere.com), December 26, 1999.


You obviously have problems dealing with a pluralistic community. There is a very good piece on that subject that was posted in the last week which no one commented on. Do you really think that MIT is the only University unplugging from the net? Do you really think that a lot of commerical firms aren't doing the same thing? How long will it take them to restart? Who knows? We've never done anything like this before. Please note this really has nothing to do with Y2k problems. It has to do with decreasing the size of the net.

Best wishe

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), December 26, 1999.


I would go to short wave. That's what I do for much of my news anyway. BBC world service is usually pretty good.

Best wishes,,,


-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), December 26, 1999.


North Korea plays nearly continuous military music. If you like that, go there!

Best wishes,,,,,


-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), December 26, 1999.

UH, we could meet at the corner 7-11. I live a block from a 7-11. I guess I'm toast.

-- ... (...@...com), December 26, 1999.

I suggest csy2k.


-- Leo (lchampion@ozemail.com.au), December 26, 1999.

Another possibility might be Yahoo with their Y2K board, aptly named "Staring Down the Millenium Bug".

CSY2K is good but very hard core. There are some extremely dedicated individuals there and quite a few serious IT folks and other computer types. Lightweight BS style posts will draw heavy return fire in that forum.

-- Irving (irvingf@myremarq.com), December 26, 1999.


I forgot to mention; Sysman had a very good, if out of the side of the mouth, comment on how long it will take to restart. Sorry Sysman, but you are probably correct.

Best wishes,,,,

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), December 26, 1999.

From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr (pic), near Monterey, California

I'm upset to be learning about this now. This is where I planned to be to monitor the latest information. I hate to think of having to learn how to negociate other sites and would much prefer to be in the company of names that that I know, so I can know what level of confidence to place in what they say. Is there any way that some kind of special arrangement can be made to shut this forum down for only the minimum possible amount of time, like a few minutes?

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage), December 26, 1999.

Csy2k could be a last resort, but I like the Yahoo idea. They SHOULD have the "resources" that we need, and they don't look all that busy now...

http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs? action=m&board=7088120&tid=staringdownthemilleniumbug&sid=7088120&mid= 1&type=date&first=1

I say let's go for it! Maybe we could make the headlines:

"Yahoo Y2K Forum Invaded by Yourdon Doomers from MIT on New-Years Eve"

Tick... Tock... <:00= ...

PS - Princeton U, in my back yard, will also be "offline" for the rollover.

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), December 27, 1999.

OK kids,

I just posted a message on the Yahoo forum, saying that we may be looking for an alternate site at rollover. Let's see what they say, or better yet, go chime in. <:)=

PS - Yea, I have a Yahoo address, but I'm not involved with that forum, and I don't have any stock in Yahoo. Don't even go there!

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), December 27, 1999.

From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr (pic), near Monterey, California

Those who are considering doing this may wish to visit there in advance, to see how things are set up, there. There is a very limited number of threads that can be seen at one time from the top level. You'll need to register to post anything. This process involves using cookies.

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage), December 27, 1999.

Now that I take a closer look, it seems that every post is a new thread. I tried to "reply" to Dancr, but it started a new one. Maybe not such a good setup after all.

And yea, I guess you would have to register. It wasn't that bad when I started this account. Name (Ytwok Board) and my zip code.

Oh no, not csy2k... <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), December 27, 1999.

Hummm, it seems that Yahoo does have this "VIEW REPLIES TO THIS MESSAGE" link, sometimes, that sorta makes a thread.

Could be worth a look. This is kinda like Y2K, we don't have enough history yet!

So, let's go make some history!!!...

Tick... Tock... <:00= ...

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), December 27, 1999.

Well, it seems that a few of the posters on Yahoo already know about this forum. One in particlual, "geek_grrrl" has quite a collection of quotes from this forum. Sure looks like we've found the home of one of our polly enemies.

Could it be LadyLogic, over there yelling about censorship, and the evils of the Yourdon forum?

Tick... Tock... <:00= ...

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), December 27, 1999.

Someone now in the forum in each surviving town should persuada a local bar or cafe to rename itself "The TB2000 Bar/Grill/Cafe". And contract with Kevin Costner to deliver the post (mail).

-- A (A@AisA.com), December 27, 1999.

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