The &$#!*@ trolls are working overtime today at DOS and trespass attacks : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread

My SWAG: the abuse people at their ISPs have the day off today.

-- Ron Schwarz (, December 24, 1999


Good thought Ron, of course school is out, and some of these posts seem written by 12 year olds.

-- Dan G (, December 24, 1999.

It's just part of the noise factor. The moderators seem to be quite on top of them though.

-- Forrest Covington (, December 24, 1999.

What is a DOS and a trespass attack?

-- clueless (not@in.seattle), December 24, 1999.

DOS = Denial Of Service: flooding the forum with noise and excess traffic, to prevent the valid users from making effective use of the forum, and also to consume excessive server resources to bring the system to its knees.

Trespass: last I heard, it's highly illegal for anyone to access a site after being told NOT to by the administration OF that site.

-- Ron Schwarz (, December 24, 1999.

Oh that was funny and you know it.

-- Butt Nugget (, December 24, 1999.

It's Christmas Eve for godsake! The fact that there are a few trolls who cannot resist mindlessly attacking this forum for a single day is very telling. Since they think Y2K will be a non-event, it's very sad that they would choose to spend Christmas engaged in cyberterrorism with people they hate, rather than spending quality time with their loved ones.

-- (, December 24, 1999.

I agree, it's sad. Yeah, you can make a case that this is a nonviolent protest against a clear and present wrongness, much like other nonviolent forms of DOS such as picketing or sit-ins. What I can't figure out is the rationale. Where is the harm in a bunch of people sitting on their hilltop awaiting the end of the world? It's not like this forum is capable of seducing reasonable people into mindless lunacy. What could be motivating these protesters?

-- Flint (, December 24, 1999.

The chemtrails are making us do it Flint. I think I might even vote for democrats in the next election. I think that we don't pay enough in taxes. I feel like building a statue for Clinton. Did I mention they sprayed over here this morning. I think Koskinen should be our next president. You doomers are looking sillier by the moment.

-- Butt Nugget (, December 24, 1999.

Hey, Flint, people have a right to picket OUTSIDE (unless, of course, it's outside an abortion clinic).

They do NOT have any "right" to picket INSIDE.

You can call it nonviolent protest, but somehow I suspect the courts will view it as what it is: repeated abuse of a system after repeated warnings by the administration.

Really now, I'd held your sense of ethics in greater esteem until you came up with *that* "nugget".

-- Ron Schwarz (, December 24, 1999.

Mea culpa, I went back and re-read your post, and saw that you were not siding with the jerks.

-- Ron Schwarz (, December 24, 1999.


The majority of the contributors to this forum are not awaiting the end of the world. After reading the thousands of posts over the past year, it's apparent to me that the majority have varying degrees of concern about Y2K, most of which fall short of Infomagic. If anyone has been seduced into mindless lunacy, it is the trolls who are spending their Christmas attacking unknown people for whom their hearts are filled with hatred.

Merry Christmas, Flint.

-- (, December 24, 1999.

Ronnie, While I don't think he was siding with the jerks, I do think he was making fun of you.

-- Butt Nugget (, December 24, 1999.

I've been here a long time, protesting against those I feel are distorting a legitimate concern way out of proportion. I wouldn't be here at all if I didn't feel the concern was legitimate in the first place -- they problems are very real. I've just been trying to argue that you can't assess their impact if you *start* by assuming it will be terrible and then select, misinterpret, and exaggerate your evidence to force it to fit your assumptions. I think those who operate that way are doing more to undermine their warnings than to support them.

But the DOS attacks baffle me. If some people want to be irrational, why not just let them? As I said, reasonable people won't be fooled.

-- Flint (, December 24, 1999.

Well, Buttie, then allow me to offer up my second mea culpa, for being fool enough to assume the best of others on xmas eve.

-- Ron Schwarz (, December 24, 1999.

Actually, Ron (Don?), I'd guess that the "trespass" charge would be pretty insubstantial, being that this is a public site. Not a lawyer, nor do I play one on the internet, just my opinion.

As for burying posts, this has been a time-honored technique here.

-- Hoffmeister (, December 24, 1999.


Given that Laura "outs" herself, using a non-anonymized IP, and states some of the multiple handles she is spamming this board with, isn't this sufficient to have her TOS'd?

Posted by ( Laura on December 24, 1999 at 09:10:24: Hi folks,

Sorry to pop in and out of here, but I have been busy butting heads at TB (sometimes I am Truth is a female, Truth, Justice, and the American Way, etc.) I have been EXTREMELY busy the last couple of days!

However, I would like to take some time off from there and go to a site called csy2k. Weeks ago, someone on TB told me I should go there, but I haven't had time. I tried looking it up on yahoo, but couldn't find it. Have any of you heard of it? Can you give me directions to get there?

-- (, December 24, 1999.

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