Art Bell program change -- Global Superstorm Likelihood Verified

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Previously scheduled program replaced by Whitley Strieber after UK and US senior meteorologists confirm global warming in process and made more severe by human activity.

Right now 22:17 Pacific time 1999-12-23

"Rapid and abrupt" are in the meteorologists' statement.

look on http://www.artbell.com for a radio station near you

Likely confirmation of scenario in their book "The Coming Global Superstorm".

-- A (A@AisA.com), December 24, 1999

Answers

This is nothing more than a ploy to sell their book. Every frickin commerical is about selling their book. With Art Bell's first book, he did the same thing, campaign over and over book signing's: "This is your last opportunity to get a signed book." Hell, that last signing went on for months! You don't need to buy a book to find out what is going on in the environemntal world. What do you think that computer of yours if for? Talking about making money off of doom and gloom, sheeshhhhh!

-- save your $$$$ (saveyour$$$@saveyour$$$.xcom), December 24, 1999.

Is Strieber going to be on all night or just the first hour?

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 24, 1999.

Hawk -- I dunno.

-- A (A@AisA.com), December 24, 1999.

Here is a link to at least one story directly from the scientists involved ... I do not see the wording attributed to them in this article ... BUT ... I am sure there are many articles.

Business must act on global warming-experts

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 24, 1999.


If we continue to burn fossil fuels most forms of life on this planet will be destroyed within a few decades. Businesses are not going to stop using it, and the politicians are not going to stop it, so it all comes down to each of us as an individual effort. If we expect this planet to be habitable for our children, we need to take some responsibility now. Every one of us needs to boycott products from companies that pollute until they are replaced by companies that don't pollute, and we need to seek out and use alternatives to the automobile for transportation. If we don't, it is going to be hasta la vista to the stupid selfish human race, they got exactly what they deserved.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 24, 1999.


Here is the original article that Art is referring to.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 24, 1999.

Thanks Hawk;

Can't pick up Art here ... no local station that carries him. Online requires the G2 player - for Win95/98/NT ... still using WFW3.11 here ... yeah I KNOW! :-(

BTW: Happy Christmas Eve my friend!

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 24, 1999.


Well that's a bummer Hiding, hope Santa will help you find a way to get upgraded soon! The Real Player is pretty cool, and the price is right (free!). I hear that the CC Radio is good at picking up AM stations that are far away, but I haven't got one yet.

Merry Christmas to you, and may you remain at peace in this world of millennial chaos! :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 24, 1999.


placed my order early this year ... Great BIG box under tree tells me - maybe Santa got me something bigger than this Pentium 60MHz system ... :-)

Got the best Christmas present any man could ask for ... a bunch of really good friends whom I am proud to call family. I may not be married, and my parents are long gone from this world ... but I have family everywhere!

My granmama used to say - "If you're at peace with yourself - there isn't anyone or anything that can take it away from you. It follows you where-ever you go!" Good advice to live by!

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 24, 1999.


Remember a couple years ago when Art had a guy on his show who was predicting that the world would be swept by 100-200 mph winds the following summer? I believe he was going to a hideout on some Pacific island. Is he still hiding there? Was that Strieber?

-- (blown@away.com), December 24, 1999.


No, that's Ed Dames, and yes he is still there. On Maui.

I don't know if the weather will be that much better out there, but at least there are mountains he can climb up on if there are tidal waves or if the sea level rises. And he probably will be the last to be covered by glaciers if we go into an ice age. It's probably a good location except for occasional volcanoes!

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 24, 1999.


Hawk,

I don't think your If we continue to burn fossil fuels... statement is a certainty, but even if its a small possibility, we're foolish for staying on this excessive consumption like-there's-no- tomorrow path. Go to Europe. High oil prices there have spawned bikes, decent mass transit and even some fresh air and excercise.

I hope this y2k rollover is a wakeup call catalyst, but I'm afraid it isn't. Hubris.

-- Bike riding Downstreamer (downstream@bigfoot.com), December 24, 1999.


Bike Rider:

Yes, there are other options to coal burning plants...such as hydro, natural gas, and nuclear. These, new technolgies and conservation need to be pursued to the fullest extent possible. This is generally opposed by the tree-huggers, except coercive measures like driving bans and high taxes. As to passenger rail, the travelling speeds would need to be a good deal higher to make the system competative in this nation, due to the greater distances between cities. Of course, all the eco-nazis would be opposed to bullet trains running at "excessive" speeds (might scare "the children" and hurt small birds), but always want more taxes and controls on the users of other forms of transportation.

As to "mass transit" the operators routinely steal tax monies paid by users of other transportation modes. If you want to use ass transit, great. Just don't ask me to pay for it out of my gas taxes, or any other tax...YOU the rider of the bus or train ought to pay for it out of your own pocket.

-- PoorTaxpayer (TiredofTax&Spend@DisgruntledTaxpayer.com), December 24, 1999.


Hey Poor Taxpayer -

If you want a tax revolt you ought to come to Washington State. Voters got their eyes opened wide out here. Inititive 695 was passed by the masses in an off election year and you ought to hear the gov moaning and groaning. 695 was to lower the license fees to a flat rate of $30 no matter what your private vehicle is. (Ours will go from $346 to about $70 with the "value added fees" on the $30). It was said the old tax was 2.2% of the whole state tax revenue. We found out that that 2% funded everything from road maintenance and repair to mass transit to jails to handicapped transportation to schools to police to 4% of one city's budget to fire dept. budgets to foster care and on and on. A lot of us are wondering what the heck they spend the other 97.8% on. Methinks there will be a further tax revolt going on. of course, it all may be a moot point by election 2000...

-- Valkyrie (anon@please.xnet), December 24, 1999.


Taxpayer, Since you brought up the tax angle, I'll extend it.

Our gasoline prices are heavily subsidized.

Failure to account for the costs of our military's defense of the Persian Gulf (+$100 bil/ year including all the foreign aide that goes to the Egypts, Turkeys, etc.)in our oil and gasoline prices results in a failure to consider more cost effective and safer alternatives.

Failure to figure in greenhouse gas and other hydrocarbon related pollution 'expenses' further skews and subsidizes our oil and gasoline economics.

If you are indeed a free marketeer, lets plug in the proper economics.

-- Downstreamer (downstream@bigfoot.com), December 24, 1999.



Y2K: THE ANSWER TO GLOBAL WARMING!

If we can drill for it, pump it out, mine, refine or distribute it, how are we gonna burn any more fossil fuel? Means global warming is dead, doesn't it?

Means that the polly greenies will all die happily of starvation without causing any problems, won't it?

WW

-- Wildweasel (vtmldm@epix.net), December 24, 1999.


Pure unadulterated horse sh*t.

We are NOT experiencing global warming. We ARE experiencing cyclical solar patterns causing warmer than normal, strange, and at times extreme weather patterns all over the globe. Good 'ole Solar Max. Been there done that. It's in the records, if you have the wherewithall to check it out.

For your information, <>b**Global warming**, as the TPTB are trying to shove down our collective throats, must be substantiated by a gradual rise in global temperatures monitored off-surface. Sorry folks. It ain't happenin' and the sooner you realize that, the better off you will be.

Dig it for the propaganda that it is. YOU the collective populace and your bad ways are to blame. You will be the ones to pay by changing your bad ways.

I have posted the relevant URL's on this subject in the past, and will not bother to repost now. However, if there is interest in reading about this, feel free to email me and I will provide them.

It's one less thing you have to worry about in this messed up world.

Blessings to all, on this most unusal holiday season.

-- OR (orwelliator@biosys.net), December 24, 1999.


OR, it sounds like you've been listening to the king of intolerant bigots, Mr. Fatboy Rush Limbaugh. I'm sure he is a real expert on weather phenomena, as explained by multi-billion dollar multi-national corporations.

If the solar cycle happens every eleven years, then how do you account for the fact that the flooding in Venezuela was by far the worst in the entire recorded history since that land has been populated by humans? How do you account for the fact that the decade of the 90's was by far the warmest on record in our entire history?

I can understand how you might think it is easier to remain ignorant and in denial, but how can you be so selfish? Think about the children that are going to have to live here in a few decades.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 24, 1999.


OR,

Those of you who say there is no global warming are just as full of shit as those who say there is with absolute conviction. We don't know . No one does. All we have to work on is theories. But here's a few hard facts for you:

~CO2 levels are increasing.

~A majority of scientists do think greenhouse gas/global warming concerns have merit.

~There's big money on the side that wants to refute it.

If there's only a 20% chance that global warming might be true, we'd be irresponsible and selfish not to act.

We could easily cut hydrocarbon emmisions by 30-40% with no drop in our standard of living...and an even bigger drop in war casualties in this forthcoming Mideast war...

-- Downstreamer (downstream@bigfoot.com), December 24, 1999.


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