"mens hearts will fail them for what they see in the sky" somewhere in the Bible.

-- Johnny (jljtm@bellsouth.com), December 22, 1999

Answers

Johnny, thanks!!! We're at about 39 degrees N latitude, and the moon she's beautiful!

-- Arewyn (isitthatlate@lready.com), December 22, 1999.

I was up at 3:00 am and the moon looked just fine. What you are looking for is this...(Luke 21:26 KJV) "Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken." powers of heaven is a reference to the Kingdom of Heaven...Israel.

When the Bible talks about the Sun, Moon, and Stars it is a reference to this...(Gen 37:9-10 KJV) "And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?"

When the Sun, Moon and Stars are mentioned in prophesy it is a reference to the nations of Israel. Israel was to become a Great Nation and a Company of Nations...(Gen 48:19 KJV) "And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations."

(Gen 48:20-21 KJV) "And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh. And Israel said unto Joseph, Behold, I die: but God shall be with you, and bring you again unto the land of your fathers."

Strange things happen all the time but the strangest of all will be the time when America realizes that we are that Great Nation prophecied. We are here and it has been fullfilled. But few can see it. Great Britain is the Great Company of Nations.

So when you see references to the Sun, Moon and Stars in the Bible think of Israel. That is us.

Still interested? Email me.

-- Mark Hillyard (foster@inreach.com), December 22, 1999.

Mark, your (I suppose) British Israelite theory is interesting, as it has been for the last few hundred years as represented by a very tiny minority of Christian thinkers. However, for any unsuspecting reader of this forum, it should be pointed out that this has never been the view of the great thinkers of Christian history (Augustin, Calvin, Luther, Knox, Edwards) and should be evaluated very cautiously. The racist overtones of this view are disturbing, to say the least.

Gore

-- Gore (BWGore@msn.com), December 22, 1999.

And the racial overtones of the book "Roots"?

And by the way...(Isa 56:3 KJV) "Neither let the son of the stranger, (non Israelite) that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree."

(Isa 56:4 KJV) "For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;"

(Isa 56:5 KJV) "Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off."

(Isa 56:6 KJV) "Also the sons of the stranger, (people of a different race) that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;"

It is very clear that there is no RACIAL... I am better than you message here.

I don't know computers but I know who I am and I will not be shamed into submission by your ignorance.

-- Mark Hillyard (foster@inreach.com), December 22, 1999.

Thanks anyway Mark, if I got wrapped up in all that again I fear my wife and kids would leave me. I was just wanting to remind people of the wonderful moon.

Good night moon...

-- Johnny (jljtm@bellsouth.com), December 22, 1999.

...

Away to the window I flew like a flash,

Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.

The moon, on the breast of the new-fallen snow,

Gave the luster of midday to objects below,

When what to my wondering eyes should appear...

Godspeed,

z

-- Pinkrock (aphotonboy@aol.com), December 22, 1999.

No problem Johnny. Just don't expect the literal sun, moon and stars to fall. Might see some interesting sights though.

-- Mark Hillyard (foster@inreach.com), December 22, 1999.

:( Cloud Cover, and I have waited in anticipation to see this. Please, tell me what it looks like!

-- I just can't (can'tbelieve@cloudpartypoop.com), December 22, 1999.

Some kind sole should post a pix, it is very light outside. If it's clear and you have snow cover, take the sun glasses.

-- && (&&@&&.&), December 22, 1999.

i cant find the darn thing.

If I ever do get to see it, i'll take a digi-pic =0)

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.com), December 22, 1999.

Big golden thing, Incredible sight. It's white now, but was gold when it rose. Wow.

-- Mara (MaraWayne@aol.com), December 22, 1999.

I understand my/our heritage! That does not mean I HATE. That is an absurd leap of logic.

-- Mark Hillyard (foster@inreach.com), December 22, 1999.

Just returned from a short trip to the state capitol. Drove across an isthmus with the moon reflecting on two lakes, and the capital rotunda as a backdrop. WOW It's almost like the last hurrah before..........

-- (Here@today.com), December 22, 1999.

The last time the moon was this bright was 133 years ago. It will not be this bright again for another 133 years.

-- (TomWaits@zensearch.net), December 22, 1999.

:( Cloud cover still dwells. Thank you, those who offered to try a picture, but I am still thirsty for everyone elses experience, since it is not in my life's book to view, first hand. Please, tell me what you are seeing, this Beautiful Moon! I can only see this moon, through your description, (honest).

-- I Just can't believe (can'tbelieve@cloudpartypoop.cpm), December 22, 1999.

We watched for about 30 minutes as the moon rose.

As it poked it's head above the horizon, in sort of a sneak peak to see if everything was all right, it was a tiny goldish spot.

When it finally decided to get up and go to work, it strectched like a late sleeper and poped out to a beautiful gold orb.

At about 4 widths above the horizon it shed it's gold night gown, put on the pure white light, and decided to get to the days work.

(The Ol' Man had the normal surprised look. What a wonder the he has never figured things out.)

I drove for about 3 or 4 miles down a country road with only Luna Light.

He's still out there now as I write this shining the "big flashlight". I suspect a little pride is showing, maybe a little more than usuall for the plane old moon.

My son, who has all the normall poetry of a 17 yr old in his heart, just came in and reported that now the darn thing is showing off and is so white it looks blue.

I think we're seeing a show that is above and beyond the call of duty.

Thank God for this little bit of joy.

-Greybear

--God help us all in the future.

-- Greybear (greybear@home.com), December 22, 1999.

I was a soft BIG yeller one when it was rising. Now it is a cold, sharp, brilliant, metalic orb. Anyone remember "Moonstruck"? La Bella Luna! The Moon that draws lovers together.

-- marsh (armstrng@sisqtel.net), December 22, 1999.

Sigh. Just lovely, Greybear. Thank you so much from those of us with too much cloud cover to view this spectacle. The moon showing off...love the imagery.

-- (RUOK@yesiam.com), December 22, 1999.

Thank you, for your kindness. The Moon, is still hidden in my region. But I did delight in your offer of kindness, your snap-shot of such a beautiful sight. I was not able to see it first hand *##!!%%***. But that is my human self speaking, Thank You!!!@

-- I just can't (can'tbelive@cloudpartypoop..com), December 23, 1999.

It does seem that it is noticably brighter than typical. It is hard to quantify, but colors are quite distinct. I noticed this in a parking lot and could easily tell the color of the cars. I checked even more and got out an artists color wheel. Once again, the colors were distinct. I can't say that I have noticed this before. If there is a luminosity threshold for the human eye to perceive the entire color spectrum, it has been crossed. Foliage from my palm trees is quite glossy as well. Hope this helps, Pete

-- Pete (phytorx@lanset.com), December 23, 1999.

OK I've taken the photos and posted them here on a page:

http://members.aol.com/cinlooo/BrightMoon/index2.htm

It's not the greatest camera, resolution-wise, but hey, it's quick =0)

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.com), December 23, 1999.

Now came still evening on, and twilight gray

Had in her sober livery all things clad;

Silence accompany'd; for beast and bird,

They to their grassy couch, these to their nests, Were slunk, all but the wakeful nightingale;

She all night long her amorous descant sung;

Silence was pleas'd. Now glow'd the firmament

With living sapphires; Hesperus, that led

The starry host, rode brightest, till the moon,

Rising in clouded majesty, at length

Apparent queen unveil'd her peerless light,

And o'er the dark her silver mantle threw.

From "Paradise Lost," Percy Bysse Shelley

-- Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), December 23, 1999.

Here is a pic of the moon about 30 min after rise. The stop sign is about 150 yds away and there was 10x zoom. Compare the intensity of the moon to that of the streetlights 100 yds away. Hope this helps, Pete.

Cut and paste--

http://www.lanset.com/phytorx/moon.jpg

-- Pete (phytorx@lanset.com), December 23, 1999.

We are clear and dry out here in S. California,..and the moon is brilliant,...just a bit more so than usual...you can see the topography differently tonight on the moon than on "normal" nights.

For what it's worth I don't think there is any particular religious significance in what we are seeing...just a cycle that humans have not seen for about 133 years. Folks need to chill out a bit and just look at it.

It's gorgeous,...especially tonight but always on other nights.

-She in the sheet upon the hilltop,...

-- Donna (moment@pacbell.net), December 23, 1999.