Just heard female reporter on CNN who said that since utilities are 100% Y2K ready, "Clinton administration says those who bought generators might as well take them back."

Couldn't believe she said that!!! How irresponsible!

Of course she's talking about individuals only ... not businesses, hospitals and government agencies. It's OK for them to have generators just in case ... but stupid for anyone else. I am SO disgusted.

Government has done such a fine job of reassuring everyone that my aunt who is scheduled for MAJOR surgery ... rescheduled her surgery from December 21 to December 31 at Cleveland Clinic, so she could celebrate Christmas with the family!!! She's gonna spend New Year's Day in ICU, and the 1st 5-7 days of the new year at Cleveland Clinic being monitored. Then 11 weeks for recovery. Isn't this just grand?

Just got back from a month in Ohio visiting my family. Got a kerosine heater and fuel for mom & dad. Mom wants it. Dad, who's usually mild mannered ... started yelling at me ... "Take that back!!! I'm tired of this. We're not gonna need it." [It's staying.]

Mom and I had to hide water and extra food. And, all we're talking about is enough for 2 weeks.

I'm angry at my government and how they're handling this. Families are being torn apart because of this. Anger is being directed at those who are trying to help and protect their families. Something's wrong with this picture.

I hope to God that things will be OK. Logically I don't believe that will be the case. There WILL be problems. No one knows where and/or how extensive. And then we have that terrorist thing to think about.

I keep on thinking about a govt hearing a while back, where the guy from the Arizon Farm Bureau talked about a combine that was tested ... which shut down ... and took 3 months to get back up and running.

For those people who keep on questioning embedded systems - think about this Arizona Farm Bureau example ... and multiply that across the board. At least these people from AFB had the luxury of time and parts availability.

I feel like Alice in Wonderland. Nothing makes sense anymore.

Just had to vent.

-- Cheryl (Transplant@Oregon.com), December 16, 1999

Answers

Cheryl,

Go see the thread called, "Did Bill Richardson consult LadyLogic."

-- (Polly@troll.com), December 16, 1999.

>>>I hope to God that things will be OK. Logically I don't believe that will be the case. There WILL be problems. No one knows where and/or how extensive. And then we have that terrorist thing to think about. <<<

This echoes most reasonable folks in here, IMHO!

BTW...did you really expect any useful information from the Clinton News Network???

-- Irving (irvingf@myremarq.com), December 16, 1999.

Jesus the Cause of Division (Mt. 10.34-36)

496 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?* 50But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52for from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.

Discerning the Times (Mt. 16.1-4; Mk. 8.11-13)

546 And he said also to the people, When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is. 55And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass. 56Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time?

-- Took a While to Find It-Novice Bible Reader (Justrememberedthis@verse.com), December 16, 1999.

I feel like 'Bubba in Wonderland'.

-- Bubba Smith (duck&cover@tshtf.com), December 16, 1999.

I can't believe that the hospital let the aunt reschedule her major surgery to December 31! I wouldn't schedule for then because I know that ICU can be full from fireworks accidents and traffic accidents, etc.

-- Mad Monk (madmonk@hawaiian.net), December 16, 1999.

There are so many people who don't believe in preparation...which is unfortunate...

With preparation, an event may be a BITR...without preparation, that same event could be a disaster!

-- Mad Monk (madmonk@hawaiian.net), December 16, 1999.

"I'm angry at my government and how they're handling this. Families are being torn apart because of this. Anger is being directed at those who are trying to help and protect their families. Something's wrong with this picture."

Well, Cheryl, you see, it goes like this:

People who own more than a one day supply of food -- people who can stay warm and fed if the electricity is out for more than a couple of hours -- who would rather stay home than go to a state-run shelter...

Deep down, these folks are really no different from people who own passenger cars and use them to go to work, shopping, vacations, and so forth, instead of using public transportation.

These people are... unamerican.

At least that's how it goes according to the current wisdom.

-- Ron Schwarz (rs@clubvb.com.delete.this), December 16, 1999.

Cheryl,

Please try to talk your aunt into changing her surgery away from 12/31. I have been told, by more than one doctor, that you don't want to be dependent on hospital services on January 1st, OF ANY YEAR. It seems that doctors and other hospital staff tend to celibrate more than most folks!

-- ds (ds@deepsouth.com), December 16, 1999.

It's amazing the things you stumble across while just cruising the Internet. This whole discussion is a beautiful example of the paranoia that can grip normally reasonable people.

For all other travelers that come across this message, remember it the next time you SURE the sky is going to fall. Then turn around, go back to work, and think about what you're going to do this weekend.

-- David (smedley@nycap.rr.com), November 04, 2004.

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002IcG

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl? msg_id=002IcG

FEMA Urges Consumers To Keep Y2K Preparedness Items

http:// www.fema.gov/nwz00/consumers0106.htm

While the Y2K bug didn't bite, the preparations Americans made just in case are still valid. FEMA Director James Lee Witt is encouraging those who bought bottled water and extra food, batteries, flashlights and other equipment in anticipation of Y2K problems to keep the items on hand.

"FEMA recommends that families always have a disaster supply kit that contains items you'd need if services were unavailable for a few days," said Witt. "Those families that prepared for Y2K were doing the right thing whether those supplies were needed over New Year's or not."

Some news outlets have been reporting that people are returning batteries, flashlights and generators, among other Y2K preparedness items.

"Being prepared for a winter storm, a hurricane or earthquake is good policy," Witt said. "We congratulate those who prepared for Y2K and urge them to begin the new year prepared for any eventuality."

Witt added that those who bought more food than they can easily store, might want to consider donating it to area food banks.

Disaster Supply Kit Information

http://www.fema.gov/ pte/supplies.htm

PDF Disaster Services - Disaster Supplies Kit document:

http://www.fema.gov/ library/fdsk.pdf

-- Being_prepared (for@the.unexpected), November 04, 2004.

http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=7226

-- (always@be.prepared), November 04, 2004.