Next year has been designated 2000 as a result
of calculations -- faulty, as it happens -- by a
sixth century monk called Dennis the Short who
decided to measure the passage of time from the
year of the birth of Christ.

. . .

There are still about 40 non-Christian calendars
in use around the world, all beginning at different
epochs.

Dispatch Online

-- spider (spider0@usa.net), December 11, 1999

Answers

jesus saves,but Buddha recycles!

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), December 11, 1999.

...and Moses invests.

-- Mr. Mike (mikeabn@aol.com), December 11, 1999.

zoobie: LOL

All: Millennial fever 2000 from a religious (as opposed to a computer) aspect is fricking ridiculous. First, Christianity is a definite minority religion in the world at large, though it is a majority in the U.S. (and the "West"). Second, THEY GOT THE FRICKIN' DATE WRONG. If one assumes J.C. was a real person (?) and not a P.R. campaign construct like Ronald McDonald, 2000 years after birth would have been maybe in 1996.

-- A (A@AisA.com), December 11, 1999.

Hey 'A', do you enjoy revisionism? I am a Catholic who doesn't feel that Good Lord adheres to our conception of time. I don't think human time-keeping means much in relevance to the end of days, either. Truth is, I don't believe the world will ever end....just the world as it is in present form. And I don't have any idea when that day will come, as is the case with most Catholics. If your stereotypical mind needed a wake up call, I hope that provided it.

Meanwhile, your moronic line about Christianity being a minority religion is incredibly foolish and smacks of religious intolerance. As is the case with y2k, you have proven that there is no end to the list of fools with psycholigical and apparently, spiritual disorders.

As for Jesus Christ being a real person, I have no doubt that He will introduce himself to you someday.

-- Bad Company (johnny@shootingstar.com), December 11, 1999.

That's right. God and Jesus don't give a crap about how we count our days, they will pay us a visit whenever they feel like it. Besides, for all of you lunatics who think there is some divine significance to the year 2000, consider this. It is my understanding that due to some early modifications that took place in implementing the Julian calendar, the actual date of the birth of Christ was 4 B.C., which means 2000 years was in 1996. And if you choose not to believe that theory, then the actual new millenium does not start until 2001, so please, give it a rest. Of course, since you keep wanting to force the issue, I guess we are going to have to go through this same hysterical lunacy all over again one year from now. (sigh)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 11, 1999.

A,

"Christianity is a definite minority religion in the world at large,"

Listen close and don't talk/type! That is why Jesus said..."Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom."

Did you catch that? "little flock"

See we get it!

GET IT?

-- Mark Hillyard (foster@inreach.com), December 11, 1999.

Flock all you religious wackos. Sheep!

-- A (A@AisA.com), December 11, 1999.

A

"Flock all you religious wackos. Sheep!"

Exactly! Sheep...(Jer 23:1 KJV) "Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD."

I don't know computers but I've been at this Bible thing for a good many years and I understand why you dislike it so much. I don't last long in "churches" because I challenge them too much. Been kicked out of 3 of them and finally began to understand my brother who would never again attend a "church".

But what the heck gotta be nuts over something and since this is older than computers I guess it's not a bad choice. It and I will be here long after computers have gone the way of the blunder bust.

-- Mark Hillyard (foster@inreach.com), December 11, 1999.

Wonder why I chose BLUNDER...BUST? Now I get it! Kinda funny don't you think? I have to laugh at my own jokes cause everyone else just looks at me with a "What do you mean?" Look on their face.

-- Mark Hillyard (foster@inreach.com), December 11, 1999.

Hawk, Mark, you'll remember the wonderful verses about doubting Thomas and it is quite appropriate here. In this day and age, it is quite predictable that such an unprovoked attack on Christians would take hold. In reading St.John's Vision of the Apocalypse, it is just as apparent that such ridicule will become commonplace and much more than just verbal in the future.

at that time, the deceit will run rampant. I am sure that 'A' will be among the first to put his eggs in the wrong basket.

I am glad he posted his vitriol, however. True Christians have nothing in common with the LA Jewish Day Care Center shooter who called himself a 'christian', nothing to do with people like the KKK who call themselves 'christians' and nothing to do with the weak of mind, devoid of soul and feeble of belief who see y2k as a sign from God, or that the calendar roll-over as some sort of sign that things will change almost instantaneously. How crass and ignorant of Christian-bashers to post on a public message board such thoughts.

Perhaps 'A' has traveled to the 'scary-one's' site once too often. Perhaps he feels we need that type of Pied Piper. Perhaps he feels we also need to twist biblical verse and that like this charlatan, we feel the need for a cataclysm to return us ---as a society--to spiritual purity.

What the scary one...and quite possibly A...don't seem to understand is where the faith eminates from.

I know where A's message eminates from.

-- Bad Company (johnny@shootingstar.com), December 11, 1999.

Two points: Christianity maybe a minority in the world at large but is the largest religion in number of adherents, then Islam, then Bhuddism, I can't remember what is number 4.

The current Gregorian calender is off by three years so the actual millenium was in 1997.

-- Forrest Covington (theforrest@mindspring.com), December 11, 1999.

blah blah blah god blah blah blah

-- Same Old (piece@crap.again), December 11, 1999.

Wow, same old, that's the most profound doomer post I've read here all year. You must be related to Ohio Bob.

-- Bad Company (johnny@shootingstar.com), December 11, 1999.

Very funny Bad Company, but you still that "hostility" thing going on. But, just wait. In a few weeks, you'll discover what real hostility is.

-- Ohio Bob (ohiobob@buckeyestate.com), December 11, 1999.

Jesse Ventura was/is right.

-- King James (wasafag@ubigdummy.com), December 12, 1999.

Jesse Ventura obviously took too many steroids during his wrestling days. That explains his small brain....and quite possibly, his smaller 'manliness'. His winning the Minnesota gubernatorial election speaks volumes about our society and about what matters most to the pseudo-intellectuals out there. Alas, most of this forum is comprised of pseudo-intellectuals who pretend to have some knowledge of things but instead, put credence in rumor and fear.

As for Bob, I pray that the hostility you speak of doesn't come to pass as it is quite apparent that a meely-mouthed little wimp like yourself will be the first to be 'eradicated'. By the way, has your y2k reading encompassed anything which quotes facts and stats from the past couple of months, or are you still predicating your anxiety upon ideas that eminated from 1998? I know the information process in Ohio is slow, but sheesh. Do a little reading.

I'll be mentioning you again in future posts, Bob. It's the least I can do.

-- Bad Company (johnny@shootingstar.com), December 12, 1999.

Where did I go wrong? I posted this in an
attempt to broaden peoples perspective and
help promote reconciliation and open minds.
What I get is venom and dogma. Peace to all
people of this planet. May we see the truth
in each other as they are the mirror of
ourselves.

-- spider (spider0@usa.net), December 12, 1999.

Jesse Ventura was right. Religion comes about from the fact that we realize we are mortal and that we fear death. Religion is merely a sham sold by power seekers. The priests and kings have always been allied against the peons. What they sell is "hope and hype". The hope is for "everlasting life" or "life after death". The hype is that if you are a good little sheep in your (only/real) life and obey the rules they set down, then the priests assure you you will have that "afterlife". A scam, pure and simple. And it takes idiots to fall for it.

-- A (A@AisA.com), December 12, 1999.

"They will know we are Christians by our love."

"See how they love one another!" (Said of Christians)

The Y2K situation has nothing to do with anything God has done, other than to allow it to happen, perhaps to let us learn we are not quite as smart as we thought we were.

And all of the errors made with calendars were human errors, not God's. And the Millennial reign of Christ cannot possibly coincide with Y2K, because all of the prophecies have not been fulfilled, and because it is a precise, however erroneous, date. Please read the Bible for yourselves, and while we won't know everything (..."We see through a glass darkly, but then face-to-face,...") we can know when others are in error, and prevent ourselves from making the same error.

Christ will return and will take us up to meet him in the air and then we will embark on a Millennial co-reign. It will not coincide with the human error launching the problems with Y2K; we should "study to show that we are approved to God, rightly dividing the Word of Truth."

But we need to ask God for wisdom to discern that and not introduce confusion and controversy.

www.tip.org - - The TIP stands for 'Technology in Prophecy'

-- Connie Iversen (hive@gte.net), December 12, 1999.

To paraphrase Mark Twain: If Jesus were on earth today, one thing he wouldn't be is a Christian.

-- doog (doog13@yahoo.com), December 13, 1999.

B.C.,

Hello. I'm a "doomer-lite", but I do agree with you regarding Christianity. A has a serious issue with Christianity, and is completely unreasonable regarding this issue. There have been numerous threads where "discussions" regarding this subject have turned into mud-slinging contests.

I wish A well because he is creating his own misery. He attacks others because of their beliefs and can't make peace with the idea that others belief in a higher power.

Peace and God's Blessing to you all.

-- Deb M. (vmcclell@columbus.rr.com), December 13, 1999.