"You posted to TIMEBOMB 2000? Your bunk's over there, right next to Gary North's. Work parties leave at 5:30 a.m. - your breakfast gruel is served at 5.00 a.m. Thanks for booking your holiday through FEMA!"

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'In a 1983 conference, Gen. Frank Salcedo, then-chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division, stated that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis."'

Copyright ) 1994-99 San Francisco Bay Guardian.


-- John Whitley (jwhitley@inforamp.net), December 11, 1999



-- John Whitley (jwhitley@inforamp.net), December 11, 1999.

Thanks John :o)

I'm probably at the top of the sh#t list then...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), December 11, 1999.

Can't you just hear the incessant blare of the loudspeakers proclaiming: "Red Line to the Left .... Blue Line to the Right .... Keep Moving, Keep moving!"

If you don't GI - I am sure there is someone here who will be happy to explain. :-(

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 11, 1999.

Andy - you'll have lotsa company. So at least one old 'truism' will fall flat, it sure won't be lonely at the top!

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 11, 1999.

...but a dissident would DENIE my freedom of speech, so FEMA's job would be to protect me from uh sysops deletion, yeah.

Heck, like the .0000125% of the population that drops in here is at risk of having an opinion changed? Not. Shoot, I'm here for shits and grins. I'm too realistic to believe I can change opinions.

-- Hokie (nn@va.com), December 11, 1999.

"They"'ve already prevented a "dissisent group" - uh,.. us, I guess - from gaining access to public opinion in a time of(impending) crisis. Thankfully they didn't see the need to hassle any of us. I mean, for one thing, we're collectively a great intelligence resource. They didn't really prevent us from talking to all the other wierdos on the net, but our viewpoint was very effectively squashed and marginised from mainstream opinion.

Next year?

Well, we're just gnats, ain't we. "They"'ll have so much else to worry about.

-- number six (!@!.com), December 11, 1999.

"as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis."

Sound like any forum trolls????

So NOW we know who signs their payroll.

-- Linda (lwmb@psln.com), December 11, 1999.

The dude said it in 1983, long before the Internet was a gleam in Al Gore's eye. (Yeah, I know it was actually in it's proto stages then, but no one other than a handful of .mil and .edu geeks had a clue.) Neither FEMA nor the other multitude of alphabet agencies could imagine in their wildest dreams that so many people could share so much information so quickly. The 'net is a totalitarian's worst nightmare.

The A&E Network ran a special recently about the 100 most influential people of the millennium. Number 1 on the list: Gutenberg, because his invention was a quantum leap for getting info to the masses. It created the "middle class" and spelled doom for the absolute rule of the elite.

The 'Net has the potential to be another quantum leap for getting info to the masses. And it also could spell doom for the plans of the ruling elite in the Government-Industrial Complex who love to push masses of people around like pawns on a chessboard.

It's a whole new ballgame compared to 1983. Knowledge is power. Rock on!

-- Capt. Crunch (eat@joe.s), December 11, 1999.

Andy, I would then get to meet you!!!

-- Psychotic (y2k@doom&gloom.com), December 11, 1999.

I take back all I said about you :o)

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), December 11, 1999.

won't you all be happy to meet

Porky from cell block D

-- Living in (the@real.world), December 11, 1999.

I'll bring flowered sheets for my cot, thanks.

I suspect history may not remember them as "the 100 most influential people of the millennium" but... some of the orginal internet design team... especially the ones who planned for the "proliferation" of it beyond what the DoD designers envisioned for "maintaining control" over computer communications (and parts were planned)... well, they should recieve our "heartfelt thanks." KUDOS guys!

(Already thanked one of 'em).




-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), December 11, 1999.

Diane, My sister will park her Martha Stewart sheets near you. The two of you can decorate.

-- Mara (MaraWayne@aol.com), December 11, 1999.

Do you really think they would put all us TB2000ers in the same room together!? That kind of independent, free thinking brain trust would foment a revolution. Egads, no, we'll all quietly disappear in the dark of night!

; )


-- Zen Angel (TheEndGame@Now.com), December 11, 1999.

Pssst....we're bustin outta here at midnight! pass it on.....

-- Porky (Porky@in.cellblockD), December 11, 1999.

If you are a female, and are accosted by a guy who is trying to get you into a car so he can drive you someplace secluded to have his way with you, the advice is to resist right then and there, not wait until you are out in the boonies somewhere.

Can you make the analogy of resisting going to a "camp"?

-- A (A@AisA.com), December 11, 1999.

I agree with the Captain, Rock On!, the internet as a forum was not even "a glimpse in daddy's eye" back in 1983. Anyway, I'd love to hang with you folks, very entertaining indeed.

-- Michael (michaelteever@buffalo.com), December 11, 1999.

CAPT CRUNCH???? How long have you been lurking here? Can I have your autograph?

-- StanTheMan (heidrich@presys.com), December 11, 1999.

When I was in trade school, learning electronic communications, 1976, we had a joke.

"There will never be a Big Brother watching you, there are not enough Closed ckt TV techs in the country"

I was working on the information super-highway when it was two-lane gravel with potholes. (ARPA-NET at a blazing 50 KB).

Echelon is a joke. They would need half the population of Wash DC just to read the posts everytime a computer "flaged" an "inapropriate" word.

There just are not enough troops. I am talking warm-bodies, not professionals. Could TPTB handle Seattle, if San Fransisco and L.A. were rioting at the same time? Has Seattle Police restocked their supply of tear gas and pepper spray or is it on back order?

-- tech (A TECH@tel.com), December 12, 1999.

Dear God...if I have to go into a shelter, please make sure that there is at least one from this forum there to talk too.....as long as its not one of the Pollies. Hmmmmmmmnn! It would be satisfying to cram the truth down one of their throats, wouldn't it? OK, one good Polly for me to harrass! Taz

-- Taz (Tassi123@aol.com), December 12, 1999.

Hmm. Time to watch "Cool Hand Luke" again. "I got my mind right, Boss!"

-- Don Florence (dflorence@zianet.com), December 12, 1999.

Maybe there will be a mud pit in the middle of the camp and the King of Spain can referee!

-- Sharon (sking@drought-ridden.com), December 12, 1999.

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