WHAT Y2K WILL BE WITHOUT A DOUBT.

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I am fascinated by the recent debate on the various forums and I can only offer my credentials and input so maybe I can aide in the debate. I am not a computer professional nor am I a economist. I have a masters degree in psychology from the University of Maryland. I will first state my observations and then my conclusion....

Supporting facts for Y2K having serious implications:

1. This is the very FIRST time in the history of mankind that we are bound to a deadline. 2. People by nature are procrastinating fools and love to extend, prolong and avoid deadlines. 3. 90% of society are complacent and do not like their jobs. They have no vested interest in the business they work for (since most people do not stay with the same job long enough to be vested). 4. We as a society have become slaves to technology and have been genetically deprogrammed to be so. 5. Governments have been habitual liars and thieves since their very inception. 6. The infrastructure of our world is too large. NOW....

Supporting facts for Y2K being a non-event:

1. A small sector of our populace by nature feed off of potential disaster and start to hope for disaster based on their conviction, their statements to others (for support of credibility), and their financial commitment to the issue. 2. We, as human beings, are survivalists. In crisis situations we will sacrifice life and limb to survive. 3. Rumors and exaggeration abound any time in history when our fate is not certain.

Conclusion: Even if given the benefit of the doubt, I cannot help but see my fellow man as critically flawed in the issue of Y2K. On a scale of one to ten I must make these determinations based on the above facts:

1. Y2K Initail disasterous impact 6 2. Y2K five to ten year impacts 2 - 3 3. Human beings potential long term spiritual, emotional and intellectual 10 improvement from Y2K

Just what I am seeing....

-- Bob Lee (Blee@whocares.com), December 10, 1999

Answers

Good going Bob,

I need psycological advice. Can you tell me how I should prepare for Y2k psychologically taking into consideration your impact scenarious. I will quickly let my survival group know of your response.

P.S. I can't afford to pay you for this advice.

Llama man

-- Llama man (llama@cool.net), December 10, 1999.


In reference to that part about humans being survivalists...

We have become accustomed to thinking that "they" will ultimately take care of us. And consider a family in a cold house with no clean water and no food. What do you suppose they could do to survive?

-- Pearlie Sweetcake (storestuff@home.now), December 10, 1999.


Bob ... You left out the most important point in statement 5 on governments and politicians in particular . Their lust for power knows no bounds ; therefore, they never look back at the new heighths to which they have piled the bodies to reach the next lofty perch . But , the keepers of the flame of liberty will NOT FORGET their names , and are ranks are legion . Every dog has his day ... that's what my daddy used to say ! So run for your holes , you political rats from predition . Eagle .... wathing ; circling ; WAITING !!!

-- Soaring Eagle (SilverEagle@flyhigh.com), December 10, 1999.

Bob Lee

I have no professional designation/credentials whatsoever but I have read some history and am willing to learn from it. I have been expecting a massive crash for close to ten years. Patience or be licked financially! Take your pick.

I see Y2K as the catalyst to burst the debt bubble which is now well beyond a monster of fantasy proportions. The signals that we are on a crash course are everywhere. To list them would be like drawing a city map on a scale of 1:1.

Prepare for an ordeal that may not end in your lifetime. That is a warning and a promise, but not mine. This is clear from the lessons of history.

-- earl (ejrobill@pcpostal.com), December 10, 1999.


Amen, Earl...

-- Patrick (pmchenry@gradall.com), December 10, 1999.


Earl--appeciate your comment. What even the GI's don't grasp: that y2k doesn't occur under "normal" circumstances. I have also warned and warned about the debt/credit bubble since 1991, back when our federal debt was 3.5 trillion (and by my estimate, true governmental debt closer to thirty). I would be far more sanguine about y2k problems were it not for the house of cards we have built. LONG story on how we did it and why. But this much must be said: if the scale of damage hits five, it will go to ten because of the perillous condition our finances are already in. Blood will run in the streets. May post on this soon, if I gather the ambition. But is there a point?

-- StanTheMan (heidrich@presys.com), December 10, 1999.

I disagree with you: the best anybody can say is "We don't know - but this is my assumptions, this is my background, and this my best guess" - then make an estimate.

I think anything "absolute" or "final" or "will be" or "will do" or whatever - is wrong. It's too short-sighted to assume we can estimate the interfaces, to assume we even know the interfaces is a stretch of the imagination.

Computers, programs, and automated processes fail in wierd and wonderful ways. People are even stranger - people in mass groups are even more different and unpredictable. So once the systems have either failed or worked, people are going then going to respond - making various places either better than now, worse than now, much worse than now, but probably not anywhere the same as now.

Then the real fun starts.

-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Marietta, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), December 10, 1999.


Bob Lee,

"4. We as a society have become slaves to technology and have been genetically deprogrammed to be so."

I agree to the first, "slaves to technology," and would add, "The borrower is slave to the lender." However I don't understand "genetically deprogrammed". Please explain.

Thanks

-- Mark Hillyard (foster@inreach.com), December 10, 1999.


Robert (Cook),

You said what I was going to say, and probably said it in a lot fewer words, so I'll just add, "Hear! Hear!".

-- Bokonon (bok0non@my-Deja.com), December 10, 1999.


We're going down......

-- nothing (better@to.do), December 10, 1999.


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