If the U.S would be under attack where are the targets that would be struck.

-- Wondering (cantshare@email.com), December 10, 1999

Answers

Probably, IOWA, Northern Alaska, upstate New York, Nebraska cornbelt, Ozark Mountains, you know the usual strategic areas,

what the hell kind of question is that, go to bed and try to figure that one out for yourself,

Wiffer

-- Wiffer (wakeup@iii.oo), December 10, 1999.

As a part of the military a few years back I saw a list of the first 50 strike points. Wouldn't be in DC or within 150 miles. Contains several targets. Also stay clear of Florida. Targets way up on the list. At least 3 will hit there and not enough escape area. Some things may have changed in 10 years though.

-- Jerry (atom@bomb.com), December 10, 1999.

IMHO Any military base or city over 100k population is a valid target. Port cities like Long Beach, Seattle, Norfolk, etc., would be high on the list (those are also military targets). Possibly civilian infrastructure targets like power generation facilities and dams, radio repeaters, radar installations, airports, etc. Some cities could be targeted with a nuke because of a single, fairly inoffensive, military facility.

-- Powder (Powder@keg.com), December 10, 1999.

Wiffer:

What's the matter? PMS? Constipated? The thread writer asked a simple question. Grow up little child. You can't be a baby all your life.

-- haha (haha@haha.com), December 10, 1999.

Wondering, Why are you so afraid? Everything is going to be OK. Really.

-- for real (for@real.com), December 10, 1999.

A good source of information, allbeit a bit dated, is:

Hazard Maps

linked from:

y2ksafeminnsota

-- hiding in plain (sight@edge. of no-where), December 10, 1999.

They are Categorized as: "A", "B", and "C" Targets.

There is a mix of important specific targets as well as target categories which are targeted. For instance, depending upon the specific battle plan being followed, all airports capable of being used for warplane re-positionings are targeted. The reason is that weapon systems can be moved to non-standard deployment locations to hide them from detection and destruction.

There are also research and manufacturing facilities directly involved in the production of potent military equipment that are targeted. The command and control primary structures are targeted; as well as, the command and control support assets. Command and control primary structures are the physical plants and directly attributable equipment and personnel. Their support assets include electrical power, external telephone capabilities, satellite equipment ground based or otherwise, communication antennas & transmitters, shipping & logistics,depots, etc.-- these are important CAT-"A" Targets.

The lists go on-and-on, but the bottom line is that the first targets to strike are the nuclear weapons and their delivery systems: aircraft, air bases, depots, ICBM's, submarines, aircraft carriers and other retaliatory delivery platforms or packages, CAT-"A" Targets.

A small paved runway long enough to land some fighter/bombers could easily be a CAT-"C" Target. But would an enemy want to strike it?

-- snooze button (alarmclock_2000@yahoo.com), December 10, 1999.

Assuming someone is starting a real war, he would go for strategic targets, to degrade war-fighting capacity and the capability to recover. Such as major transportation hubs -- (for instance, Chicago, St. Louis, Atlanta, NYC, Houston, Seattle) and Command and Control centers -- D.C. for sure, dozens of other sites, incl. NORAD at Cheyenne Mtn. near Colorado Springs.

A terrorist attack would have different objectives -- mainly designed to hassle -- anything whose disruption would cause confusion and pain.

-- Tom Carey (tomcarey@mindspring.com), December 10, 1999.

I'd vote for the Trident bases in Wash. state and S. Carolina. Omaha for the railroads and SAC base. The port cities, of course for naval facilities. Most of Montana, N. Dakota and Wyoming. The states of Maryland and Virginia. Wash. D.C. will likely be an answer to the question: what's wide and deep and glows in the dark? (the hole where Wash. D.C. used to be). Colorado Springs for NORAD and the Air Force academy. N. Carolina for the Army bases as well as secondary high tech areas. Nashua NH, San Jose (and points south), Bend Oregon and Redmond, WA also for high-tech. There is an area in New Mexico that is essentially a "choke point" for interstate trucking...just for a few.

If there is a nukewar, we're all in trouble. There will be nowhere to hide.

-- chairborne commando (what-me-worry@armageddon.com), December 10, 1999.

If the Russians had any brains they would use only 5 nukes, explode them in space, and let all of us deal with the shutdown of damn near everything we own due to the EMP's...IMHO

-- Ken (kjackso@max.state.ia.us), December 10, 1999.

If the Russians had any brains they would use only 5 nukes, explode them in space, and let all of us deal with the shutdown of damn near everything we own due to the EMP's Exactly right Ken,this had indeed been the plan for some time now. It is a known fact that a large enuff EMP would bring down our power grid.

-- Dan G (thepcguru@hotmail.com), December 10, 1999.

Don't think so......They (They?) will destroy us from within, remember? I would guess that the means are already here...no long-range deployment required....You fill in the blanks. Then, how would we even know who to shoot back at.

-- Won'tseeit (Can'tHide@USA.com), December 10, 1999.

Another thought...Since conventional warfare is contemplated by TPTB due to all the "Nuke" hype, I think that redeployment of strategic assets are being conducted and I believe this could be the answer to the Chemtrail mystery....We're creating cloud cover so movement of these assets can't be seen by Spy Satelites...or maybe not.

-- Won'tseeit (Can'tHide@USA.com), December 10, 1999.

"It is clear now that wars of the future will be fought in outer space by tiny robots. Your job: to build and maintain those robots."
- Simpsons

-- mike d. (bboys@yahoo.com), December 10, 1999.

The attack plan is based on what you want to accomplish.

Lots of "tinfoils" say the Russians are going to nuke us and then take over.

Why and how.

If they go for our stratigic weapons, they will destroy what the "tinfoils" claim they want, our food.

Example, Surface burst nukes in our Minuteman and Peacekeeper missile fields will contaminate the entire northern grain belt. Warheads aimed at the Trident Sub base at Bremerton, WA will destroy the port of Seattle which ships most of our northern grain.

If they go for our cities, even with chemical, biological or neutron bombs, who will run the shipping and processing plants.

If there ever is a war, the Communists won't last one generation. We have been proping their system up for decades.

If the Commies are smart, they will just continue to buy our grain at below market prices using borrowed money that they know they will never have to pay back.

-- woody (woody11420@aol.com), December 10, 1999.

Who is it that would be launching this full-scale strike? The Chinese would be insane to do so since once cobalt shielded warhead in the headwaters of the Yangtze would virtually eliminate them as a people. They know it and we know it.

The Russians? They lost quite a lot of their nukes with the breakup of the Soviet Union and with their smaller area now we'd be able to concentrate more warheads on fewer targets. A lot of former victims of the USSR would just love to carve up whatever remains of the Russian Federation. There's no one else at the present moment with sufficient throw weight to do the full-scale launch thing. Hmm, perhaps India but she has real vulnerabilities as well and she knows it.

Use of just a few warheads against limited targets is something else altogether. A terrorist group might be hard to find.

Still, on the chance that some opponent did do such a thing the natural first strike targets are any places that can immediately strike back. This includes command and control centers for authorizing the launch of our nuclear weapons and directing the war. Washington D.C. or anyplace the enemy suspects the President, Vice-President and Speaker of the House to be, maybe even further on down chain-of-command list. Omaha Nebraska, I believe, is still the home of the U.S. strategic nuclear command. Cheyenne mountain for NORAD, possibly Tampa for the command and control centers at McDill AFB. Naturally, the missile fields of the American West and Midwest would go, any naval bases where they know capital ships or missile carrying submarines to be, any Air Force base with B52, B1 and B2 bombers on site. Those all go first as primary targets.

Secondary targets are any places where mobile craft from the above might use. Any commercial airport with a 10,000+ foot runway can land fully loaded intercontiental bombers. Most major ports can service air craft carriers. Any submarine turning basin even if there isn't any subs presently in them. Any place capable of launching spacecraft into orbit (satellites are critical)which means Vandeberg in California and Cape Canaveral in Florida (there's a Trident turning basin near to it as well). I grew up in Brevard county Florida, home of the Cape. Whether our opponent would be able to lauch a secondary strike is an open questions.

Tertiary targets are support and logistic sites - major rail nets, remaining major ports, and so on and so on. Probably not going to be hit.

Now for single or limited use of nuclear weapons that might be any major city virtually anywhere. I wouldn't do it on New Year's though, I'd wait a week or so to see how much the date rollover is going to affect the economy. If we're struggling but still in the game I'd then pop-off one in downtown Manhattan. Actual pysical damage may be relatively low but a fair part of the world's money flows through the financial centers in Manhattan, particularly with folks getting the overseas Y2K jitters and looking for a safe place to stash their bucks. That could kick the whole house of cards right on over but good.

As one other poster suggested, if they have the capability to do it, I'd just pop off about four or five well spaced out warheads in low orbit for maximum EMP affect. I'd do it several hours before close of business the Friday before New Year's or the Friday after. As I recall about seven of every ten US dollars has no actual physical existence but is just an electronic entry somewhere. Physical damage would be just about nil but the economy would tank for a long, long time.

Of course, if we even thought we knew who did that they'd be nothing but green glowing glass for the next couple of million years. Even if we had to hang Clinton from a lamp post first to do it.

The US ain't what she used to be but she still has her teeth.

...........Alan.

The Prudent Food Storage FAQ, v3.5

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-- A.T. Hagan (athagan@sprintmail.com), December 10, 1999.

Phillip Wylie wrote many books. He was also the head of the civilian defense operations for the USA. In one of his books"Tomorrow" he described a fictional account of a necular attack on the USA. One half the total population was destroyed. That book was written in the earlt 1950's.

In the 1970's he rewrote the book "Tomorrow" with a new title, I don't remember what it is. Both books were based on his knowledge of the Soviet necular capibilities that he knew of as the head of our civilian defense. In the second book there are approximatly 12 survivors. What would happen to the USA in a necular attack would depend on the yield of the bombs and the intent. There are bombs where 2 bombs would completely destroy a state the size of Ohio. Other bombs are smaller tactical bombs meant to destroy our military capability.

Using "big" bombs would wipe us out. Small bombs would leave survivors and the possibility of being able to use our factories and land for their purposes.

So it depends on what the purpose of the attack is. Domination of the world and kiss your arse goodby. Control of our assets and some of us would survive. Their choice.

-- Mr. Pinochle (pinochledd@aol.com), December 10, 1999.

IMHO right up and down the Mississippi River Valley, split us in two, with diversionary attacks throughout US and Canada. Maybe some limited, tactical nukes, but they want our stuff, not nuclear waste.

Not if but when...?

We win!

-- Mark Hillyard (foster@inreach.com), December 10, 1999.

why not just preempt the Russkies and get it over with? Common, Klintoon-----fire em all off! Think of your legacy!!!!!!!!!

-- Nuke em! (SiteR@altmcc.com), December 10, 1999.

Why bother with nukes? Cyber terror would be more ominous, would leave no trace, involve little risk, and would cost next to nothing to implement compared to nuclear. CIA director John Deutch called them the ultimate "precision guided munition." Without electricity and communications, our "technological revolution" would revert back to the stone age to say nothing of how banks, government and other institutions would fare.

-- JW (jw530@yahoo.com), December 10, 1999.

Of course, bioweapons and seismological "thumper" weapons could do a heck of a lot of damage and leave no "bloody glove" behind, so to speak. These could conceivably be used in cooordination and completely destroy our economy and influence on the rest of the world, humbling us to third world status.

-- coprolith (coprolith@fakemail.com), December 11, 1999.

Thank you, Comrades, for these excellent suggestions. We are now fine- tuning our plans with the best of your ideas. Buffalo, New York, is your city of refuge. We promise to leave it intact, if you can reach it in time.

-- Russkinuke (MoscowCenter@BigBang.Com), December 12, 1999.