Ashton & Leska; Police, Portland & Y2k : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread

Mornin' to you,

News stories at say police have millenium plan in place. Interestingly, Portland also will be getting a new police chief.

What do you know about it?


ps: I mailed you-got no response.

-- maid upname (, December 10, 1999


Dear maid upname,
Thanks for your eMail. Sorry we are so far behind on eMail. We're both ill and only sit at the computer these days because can't breathe lying down. Too fuzzied and miserable to compose much.

Not only Portland but the entire State of Oregon is due to have a new Police / Trooper Chief installed around Rollover. You wouldn't believe what's going on. Sheer and utter, uh, who cares.

Enormous change of the guard coming up, or so they believe, because of attrition and waves of retirements -- 40% of the state force due to retire next year.

Their plan is slowly congealing but they're totally clueless for the most part.

When we can breathe better we'll type more. At this point we don't care. We've done the community outreach thing for long enough, actually got thru a few brick walls via various avenues, but at this point just hibernating and letting the rest of the world learn thru the school of hard knocks.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (, December 10, 1999.

Portland's past Police Chief left many months ago. They are now just getting around to the decision. The mayor is notorious for this type of delay. The search committee was huge. Something like 50 people. My memory is weak on the exact number.

-- gary (, December 10, 1999.

The choice was between a young but well-spoken black man and a 32 year veteran with LAPD with a Dutch-German name...Kroeker, or something like that....

The job went to the older (and riot-skilled) white guy... this was right after the Seattle riots...remember?

-- eubie (, December 10, 1999.

Dear A & L -

It sounds to me like you both may have walking pneumonia, which is what I am home with this week. Hope you have been to a doctor & got something to knock it out. This year has been hard on us. Rest, sleep, get well. Never mind the forum or the world - take care of yourselves. God bless.

-- Scat (, December 10, 1999.

Portland Greets New Top Cop

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (, December 10, 1999.

Thank you all for answering.

About the new police chief-The news story on Yahoo said he was from somewhere in Texas. I don't know how many have been following all the stuff coming out of Texas about military activities and how they are involved in civilian law enforcement, but this could be another tie in to that.

Do a search on (operation) "shifting sands". Based now in Texas, New Mexico, and maybe other nearby states. Foreign troops are involved in that op. I wonder where those "sands" will shift to.

Ashton&Leska-You said you were sprayed recently. Somewhere on the BB there was a message about this area being sprayed last winter. My parents got real sick too. Father had pnumonia. Mother still has deep chest congestion and coughing.

I don't know what to say. Doesn't seem anything could help from me. Just don't forget you have a Bible. John 3:16

-- maid upname (, December 11, 1999.

Ashton and Leska, sorry you have the bug. I have been through that mess four times now and the only antibiotic I have found effective against it is Cephalacor. SP? Might want o give it a try if all else proves futile, which it did in my case. If you have the BAD version of this it will last several months without antibiotic treat ment and evolves into full blown pnemonia in many cases. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

-- Nikoli Krushev (, December 11, 1999.

Secret Y2K Command Post Readied In Salem

Officials Will Monitor Rollover And Coordinate With Federal Officials

SALEM, Ore., Posted 9:17 p.m. PST December 10, 1999 -- When the clock strikes midnight on New Year's Eve, top state officials will be gathered at an undisclosed spot to monitor potential Y2K computer troubles.

The National Guard chief will be there, along with the head of the Oregon State Police and the governor's chief of staff.

They will be watching for any disruptions or problems arising from computer glitches.

For security reasons, officials won't say where the command post will be located, except that it will be somewhere in Salem.

Gov. Kitzhaber's chief of staff said it isn't likely that they're going to have problems that are directly associated with the rollover date itself.

Their concern is sabotage, that computer hackers will use New Year's weekend to try to disrupt society.

Meanwhile, in Washington D.C., federal officials with gather in a similar facility -- albeit larger and more complex -- to monitor systems state-by-state and receive information from around the globe as midnight's hit time zones.

About 200 personnel, including representatives from utilities, airlines, industry, the military and Internet companies, will gather in the top floor of the Information Coordination Center. They will have more access to communications and governmental infrastructure than any peacetime body ever has, according to Interactive Week online magazine.

Reporters will also be on a nearby floor awaiting information. Updates will be posted on the Web site for the President's Council on Year 2000 Conversion.

-- secret (bunker@Y2K.monitor), December 11, 1999. tml

Nike Shifting Y2K Costs To Insurers

Shoe Giant Following Lead Of Dozens Of Other Companies

BEAVERTON, Ore., Posted 4:55 p.m. EST December 11, 1999 -- Nike Inc. has spent nearly $100 million getting its computer systems ready for year 2000, and now the athletic shoe and apparel giant wants its insurance companies to pay the bill, according to a newspaper report.

Nike sued two East Coast property insurance companies last month in Washington County (Ore.) Circuit Court, seeking reimbursement for its Y2K expenses, The Oregonian newspaper reported. The case moved to U.S. District Court in Portland this week at the request of the insurers.

Nike is only the latest big company to claim that its Y2K expenses are covered by insurance policies protecting damage to computer systems. GTE, Xerox and Unisys have been among dozens of corporations that have filed lawsuits in recent months against insurers.

GTE sued five insurers in June in New Jersey federal court to recover its costs, which had risen to $358 million by Sept. 30, according to filings with the Securities and Exchange CommissionA.

None of the lawsuits has been resolved.

"We're not alone among large companies," said Vada Manager, Nike's director of global issues management.

Nike launched its year 2000 repairs in May 1997. According to SEC filings, the company said it has completed work on 144 of its 148 important information technology systems as of Sept. 30. The rest are to be finished by year's end.

As of Aug. 31, Nike had spent $97 million to fix its Y2K problems and was on its way to an estimated $100 million to $110 million.

Its lawsuit was filed against American Home Insurance Co. of New York and Factory Mutual Insurance Co. of Rhode Island. Neither company has yet filed an answer to Nike's complaint.

-- legal overload (for@sure.2000), December 12, 1999.

A & L,

Wishing you a speedy recovery. My girls and I have had the upper- bronchial chest thing on and off for awhile, Yuck. Christopher, (my husband) is Mr. Hardy, but he too has felt its impact. Miss your posts alot...............

-- ;-) (, December 12, 1999.

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