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When did the Executive Branch begin the flurry of Executive Orders? Was that in response to knowledge of Y2k, or was it something else they had in mind? F.B.I.'s project Meddigo-can you see it in this article?

News story heard February 14th, 1999; "F.B.I. to head new Federal Police Force." Heard on KOA radio, out of Denver Colorado (haven't been able to obtain further info).

Maybe this is OT, but Y2k is a problem. Problems also create opportunities.


Hillary, Cronkite call for world government

By Henry Lamb ) 1999

Where was the mainstream news media when Hillary Clinton introduced Walter Cronkite to the World Federalist Association on Oct. 19? Television cameras focused on Hillary's baseball cap; it is far more important that voters know where she stands on the issue of national sovereignty. Not until WorldNetDaily reported the Cronkite speech Nov. 30, did Americans discover that both Hillary and Walter are avid advocates of world government.

Cronkite says, "democracy, civilization itself, is at stake," unless the "basic structure of our global community" is changed in the next few years. Cronkite's appeal for world government came only five days before the release of the Charter for Global Democracy which embodies the version of world government preferred by the United Nations Association.

Both the UNA and the WFA have been promoting world government for years. Cronkite's group, the WFA, prefers a "federalist" system which would create a weighted system of voting in the U.N. General Assembly to create a legislative body roughly akin to the American Congress. The UNA prefers a "consensus" process that takes into account recommendations offered by civil society (non-government organizations accredited by the U.N.).

Both organizations want to elevate the U.N. to world government status and empower the U.N. to enforce all international law. In fact, in 1986, the WFA filed suit against the United States over U.S. foreign policy, arguing that Article VI of the U.S. Constitution made the U.N. Charter as well as other U.N. treaties, the "supreme law of the land." The courts ruled against the WFA in 1989.

Hillary's presence at the WFA meeting, and her introduction of Cronkite, directly aligns her with the world government movement, and particularly with the WFA's world government aspirations.

Cronkite called for the "revision" and limitation of the veto power of permanent members of the U.N. Security Council. The Commission on Global Governance and the Charter for Global Democracy call for the elimination of both the veto and permanent member status on the Security Council. This latter recommendation will be presented as the needed "reform" to the Millennium Assembly next September. Cronkite's more timid approach, as well as his "federalism" ideas have been overwhelmed by the U.N.'s "consensus" process now on a fast track toward adoption.

Cronkite called for the immediate ratification of a laundry list of U.N. treaties, including the infamous Convention on the Rights of the Child; the Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW); and, "most important," Cronkite says, the International Criminal Court, which empowers the U.N. to prosecute American citizens whether or not it is ratified by the Senate.

Hillary made her support for these positions clear when she attended the U.N. Beijing Conference on Women in 1995.

Cronkite said in order to achieve world government, "Americans will have to yield up some of our sovereignty." He said, "the notion of unlimited national sovereignty means international anarchy."

Under the world government scheme embodied in the Charter for Global Democracy, any individual nation could wield only the power assigned to it by the U.N. National armies would be disarmed to the level of a national police force. The U.N. would maintain a "directly recruited" standing army under the direct authority of the U.N. Secretary-General. Private citizens would be disarmed, and the U.N. would control the manufacture, sale, licensing and distribution of all firearms.

To finance this expanded world government, the U.N. would be given the authority to impose taxes on the exchange of currency, on the use of resources, including the air, outer space, and the seas. Taxing authority is seen not only as the source of unlimited revenue, but also as a way to force a reduction of natural resources, especially fossil fuels, water, trees, and minerals.

Like the Clinton administration, and other world government advocates, Cronkite demeans opponents. He says that like America's rejection of the League of Nations, current opposition to world government is "led by a handful of willful senators who choose to pursue their narrow, selfish political objectives at the cost of our nation's conscience."

He goes even further to single out the "Christian Coalition and the rest of the religious right wing" as the culprits who have kept the world in a state of sovereign anarchy and prevented the emergence of a "civilized force of law" administered by the United Nations.

The fact that people of the stature of Hillary Clinton and Walter Cronkite are now willing to publicly advocate world government is an indication of their confidence that the world is now ready to accept their plan. World government is no longer the exclusive domain of the "black helicopter crowd." Finally, the sinister plans to rule the world are being exposed by those who expect to rule.

The timeline is, indeed, short. After decades of silent and denied preparation, the United Nations has made public the millennium year agenda which is crowned by the largest gathering of heads of state in the history of the world next September.

World government, called "global governance" by the U.N., will not occur on any certain day. It is a process that has been underway for years. The Millennium Assembly and summit next September, with the adoption of the Charter for Global Democracy, is seen to be the point from which there is no turning back.

The only way to stop world government at this late date, is for the American people to send a government to Washington in the next election that can muster the courage to just say, "No."

Henry Lamb is the executive vice president of the Environmental Conservation Organization and chairman of Sovereignty International.


-- maid upname (, December 09, 1999



-- (behind@a.bush), December 09, 1999.

I believe "Honest Abe" was the first (during the Civil War), but the frequent urination on the US Constitution seems to have begun in earnest after the "Great Depression", around 1933. I also read that legal cases prior to this period were disallowed as "precedents" in 1938 due to a philisophical change in law, but can't verify.

-- Anonymous999 (, December 09, 1999.

The people that "yawn" at this and aren't interested are the reason this can happen at all. Considering most peoples' interest in our Freedom and heritage, it's now wonder we aren't a "province" of the UN or WTO.

I guess I'm still amazed at the number of people on this board who think the Government is great, never thought about the GATT and NAFTA agreements, think Saddamm is our "Enemy", and generally don't have a clue as to what's happening to our country.

Cronkite, the Clintons, and many many other well known supposed "good guys", are all proponents of the NWO.

Snakes and liars.

-- Gregg (, December 09, 1999.

Vile desecraters of the once proud Nation, These United States. Doesn't anyone care how unique we are/were in the world? It's that inherent uniqueness that raises the ire in all other countries of the world.

"Why does it?" one may ask? Well, lets face it. This country was founded by the rejects of the European society. The underdogs, the relgious fanatics, the "unwanted red-headed stepchildren of the world", to coin a phrase. The fact that we, together, for the most part, coalesced this rag tag melting pot of divesity into the preimminant power that has ever existed in the history of mankind is more than the others can take.

Jealous. The Lot of them. Never should we forget our roots. Why should we skulk and kowtow to others? It was, at one point within our power to destroy every other nation on this planet, had it been our want. But with the vile debasement and public bootlicking do we allow our "leaders" to sell themselves and our country out.

Nevermore should we allow this to happen. Twice this country has stood tall in the face of fascism. Twice this country has save the majority of the people on this planet from themselves. When will America awaken again? When will its people open their eyes and cry out "Enough!"? Sure, we have our shortcomings... but our plusses are what made us great. We can be, and will be great again... I hope.

Rant -off-

-- Billy Boy (, December 09, 1999.


-- Servant (, December 09, 1999.

"Twice this country has stood tall in the face of fascism."

Yes, but never internally...

-- Anonymous999 (, December 09, 1999.

Maid Upname and Billy Boy are right sheeple, it's "cool" to mock the flag and God. I predict the churches, synagogues, mosques and temples are gonna start overflowing with people begging for mercy real soon. "...And the merchants of the earth wept and mourned over her, for no man could buy her merchandise any more...for the merchants of these things were made rich by her. They shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing...Alas, that geat city (civilization), for in one hour so great riches was come to naught." That's the word of St. John the Divine from nearly 2000 years ago. Rev:11-19. The ghost in the machine is about to open its hoary maw and speak with one croak and then what...silence? Mr. Megiddo says do not pay any attention to that man named John behind the curtain. Well I say this: WHEN MY GOVERNMENT TELLS ME NOT TO READ MY BIBLE OR PUT ANY STOCK IN IT ANYMORE, I PAY ATTENTION. (<@>^<@>) Open your eyes yawners. Brave New World Disorder. Digital Currency to replace wiped out monetary system. What did our friend and saviour say: Render unto Caesar, that which is CAESAR'S. The coins fools, the MONEY. The Roman Empire's image stamped on the coin. He turned the tables of the moneychangers in the temple and they crucified him for it. For the world. Too bad were still not listening. Spouse went to a conference, about 125 booming yuppies in the room. Speaker asks how many are into this e-trading sensation? 85% of the hands go up in the room. Then he asks, "anyone making any money yet?" Three hands still up in the air. Embarrassed silence. WAKE UP! The time for sleep is past. WTO Protest = 2nd Boston Tea Party.

-- Pauline Revere (, December 09, 1999.

I'm sure that the reaction of a lot of German Jews to the publication of Mein Kampf was, "yawn".

-- Ken Seger (, December 09, 1999.


Kind of reminds me of the big dummy in math class falling asleep in the back row!

-- anti_y2kpro (anti_y2kpro@vr.123), December 09, 1999.

The one difference between us and the rest of the world is this: our rights are a GOD given birthright, not bestowed upon us by some aristocratic, "benevolent" monarch, nor a drunken, mafia-ridden marxist kleptocracy, OR parliament of gay callboy addicted whores. Americans are born with those rights sheeple. Everywhere else, and I mean everywhere, the govt. of the rest of the world "provide" these rights. When Tom Jefferson wrote "inalienable rights" he meant that you cannot alienate yourself from them, even if you wanted to because you were "BORN" with them. Even if you live elsewhere, just get to Yankeeland Themepark and we will honor those rights. Esp. if the two bit dictatorship you are tortured in doesn't think you deserve any. THAT is truly the unique part. The most dangerous obstacle for NWO. Now do you get it? Hats off to you Billy Boy, you got heroes in your blood. I can see it in your prose! Same here.

-- Pauline Revere (, December 09, 1999.

Ken, Pauline, Billyboy, Gregg,

Thanks for your thoughtful responses. They motivate.

Tell me something, along the lines of the WTO protest as a second Boston Tea Party (an excellent analogy, I might add), what is your folks' take on why there weren't more people there protesting against other unelected, globalist institutions such as CFR, the Fed, Trilateral, and so forth.

There are of course obvious reasons, such as fear of violence and so forth, and fear of opposition from other protestors, but these aside, you'd think you would have seen *something.*



-- sean (thanks@for.your.cognizance), December 09, 1999.

Excuse me all,

Just to point out that the "yawn" came from "Public Servant".


ps: Sorry for the rant, but thanks for the response anyway.

Missed Big Dog, but it's good to see you again Billy-Boy. Massachusetts!?!

-- maid upname (, December 09, 1999.

Hello all. I am adding my Patriotic fervor to the fire :)

The United States of America and it's Constitution will not fade from this Earth as long as blood flows through my body. This I have sworn to when I took the Serviceman's Oath.

I am a Patriot to the core. My real name is here for all to see.

-- Brent James Bushardt (, December 09, 1999.

Public servant, you wouldn't be one of those wide-assed, lazy, show-up-for-work-at-9, leave-for-lunch-at-10, return-at-2, go-home-at-3, jerks I used to work with would you?

-- (...@.......), December 10, 1999.

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