Re: "about PERL / JAVA / VB Scripts on the net" (since somebody screwed up that page real good)

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Y2K infests Web page

-- Lane Core Jr. (elcore@sgi.net), December 08, 1999

Answers

And....the defense rests.

thanks Lane!

-- C. Hill (pinionsmachine@hotmail.com), December 08, 1999.


Great, so now the thread was deleted, and the message I put out is lost..... Thank goes out to the genius who hosed the thread :)

Anyway..if you read the above article that Lane was nice enough to post, you will see what I was trying to say...

-- C. Hill (pinionsmachine@hotmail.com), December 08, 1999.


Lane,

I just wanted to say THANK YOU for your level headed and wonderfully written articles, especially the one of today on Westergaard. Brilliant....

-- Paul L. Hepperla (paulhep@terracom.net), December 08, 1999.


Jocelyn Amon, who one year ago was telling us that there were Y2k defects in Washing Machines, has discovered that there are clueless programmers writing scripts on the Web. Hey, Lane, my nine year old son is learning to write scripts on the web. He probably makes 300 errors in 30 lines. But he gets the feedback of seeing it *on the Internet*, and it's not harming anyone. Talk about clueless: Westergaard changed all their URLs not too long ago, thus breaking thousands of links in HTML pages all over the world!

Amon's examples were completely deconstructed in comp.lang.perl.misc months ago.

    --bks
http://www.ironic.com/y2k/



-- Bradley K. Sherman (bks@netcom.com), December 08, 1999.


Actually the programming behind this site screwed it up real good or at least isn't what it should be...........

Having not posted much here for a while I had forgotten that this site would parse my SCRIPT example and posted part of a script to show that most scripting languages take care of Y2K in the code regardless of whether it is 'compliant'or not.........

This site could have been written to first examine the contents of all messages, check for HTML or SCRIPT tags, and if the postings contain them then it should test whether it is valid before automatically displaying the results. A bit complex but worth the effort I think.

The fact is that web scripting will NOT cause MAJOR problems and those that do happen will be fixed very quickly.

The whole thing is another red herring for the doomers to grasp on to..........

Next thing you know we will have a thread titled 'Non-compliant lawnmowers a threat to your limbs'.

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), December 08, 1999.



Thanks, Paul.

-- Lane Core Jr. (elcore@sgi.net), December 08, 1999.

Well, well, well. Bks shows up for his semi-annual appearance on TB2000 today of all days. Interesting.

-- (TrollPatrol@hmmmm.hmm), December 08, 1999.

Craig...do you have knowledge of EVERY website on the net, and the duties their scripts perform? You say that bad script cant hurt anything?? What about an e-commerce site that can no longer take credit card purchases because the script is screwed? What a about a site that uses JAVA or PERL script to admin a phone system? (yes these things happen, my company is building an admin system just like this).

Lose the blanket statements about how Y2K cant possibly have any negative effects on the internet....you have no clue.

-- C. Hill (pinionsmachine@hotmail.com), December 08, 1999.


I didn't say it can't have ANY effects......simply that they are LIKELY very few and not very serious. Again, most web development has been done in the last few years since there has been Y2K awareness. Also, typically fixing script is not excessively time consuming and so what if an ecommerce site is down for a day or two.......that's not the end of the world!

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), December 09, 1999.

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