FYI/John Whitley on the Jeff Rense show.

John Koskinen, while telling American citizens to prepare as you would for a 3 day winter storm has prepared for a 3 MONTH storm and has purchased "3 months food, water and supplies for his own family".

http://playlist.broadcast.com/makeram.asp?id=255607

no comment/sdb

-- S. David Bays (SDBAYS@prodigy.net), December 06, 1999

Answers

S. D. B.,

Do you have an article, a web site? Anything in reporting form? Where and when did he hear it?

-- PJC (paulchri@msn.com), December 06, 1999.

I am not surprised in the slightest...

However, Mr. Bays, what Kosky does says a whole lot more to me than what he says.

Let that be another indicator to us all eh?

-- (Kurt.Borzel@gems8.gov.bc.ca), December 06, 1999.

I'd be willing to BET that he has ALOT more than 3 months of food!!!

-- Orson Wells (wells@whitebulb.com), December 06, 1999.

Sorry, I can't hear it well. Can you please tell us where and to wh and when Koskinen made those comments of 3 months prep. I really need to know. Thanks.

-- Jane (jne37@hotmail.com), December 06, 1999.

PJC: try the Jeff Rense web site: http://www.broadcast.com/shows/endoftheline/99archives.html

then go to Nov. 30 show.

This little tidbit is about 1/2 way or 2/3 into the broadcast. I had to listen twice because I couldn't believe what I was hearing the first time.

File this under the: "Don't do as I do but do as I SAY" file.

Sorry, I'm HTML challenged. sdb

-- S. David Bays (SDBAYS@prodigy.net), December 06, 1999.

david....

i went and listened to the show again (btw...the koskinen comments are 1:43 minutes into the show)

when mr. whitley says:

"he's putting aside a three months supply"

whitley was referring to george grindley (a georgia state rep) putting preps aside for his family (supposedly after hearing to prepare for up to 3 weeks from kosky)

a state rep prepping for 3 months is no little matter.........but not quite the same as the czar himself admitting to such preps

go back and listen yourself and see if you hear it the same way i do

-- andrea (mebs@home.yup), December 06, 1999.

andrea: I think you are right but it does sound like he is quoting Koskinen. If not Koskinen then my profound apologies to all.

This section of the tape begins at 1:43:04 and the quote under disection occurs close to 1:44:20 on your Real Player.

sdb

-- S. David Bays (SDBAYS@prodigy.net), December 06, 1999.

Wolf! Wolf! Please take care: hyperbole is the last thing we need right now. :(

-- Colin MacDonald (roborogerborg@yahoo.com), December 06, 1999.

That's not a wolf....
http://www.oklahoma.net/~akita/Wolves/wolflone1.htm

That's a wolf!!

-- Jay Urban (Jayho99@aol.com), December 06, 1999.

Colin,

That is a Boston Bull Terrier - the best dog bred in America!

CHEERS.

-- Bill P (porterwn@one.net), December 06, 1999.

In Colin's SCOTLAND, that's a wolf ... LOL!

-- John (jh@NotReal.ca), December 06, 1999.

-- Dennis (djolson@cherco.net), December 06, 1999.

I've listened to this, too. IMHO he is most definitely quoting George Grindley, not Koskinen, in regard to putting aside 3 months supply.

I spoke to Rep. Grindley directly. He's done he's research and decided for himself that 3 months was prudent. He also mentioned that Koskinen's son is a programmer, and has told his father "it's going to be worse than you think." There was no indication that Koskinen was preparing for anything worse than the "storm." He further stated that his info from inside the Southern Co. (elec. power) is that 7 out of 9 of their Y2K tests have failed. I mentioned this a couple of months ago to you guys, but oddly, no one commented on it.

I wouldn't put alot of credence on the three-week outage statement by Koskinen, unless it can be verified by a source other than Grindley. Rep. Grindley told me that there was confusion with that statement and that he is not sure his source was correct, as he did not get that from Koskinen himself. Grindley is head of the Y2K Task Force for the House of Reps. in GA, and has been forthcoming to anyone who asks about Y2K...unfortunately, the news media HASN'T.

-- Jill D. (jdance@mindspring.com), December 06, 1999.

Jill:

Here's your "second source":

NEWS from NIRS NUCLEAR INFORMATION & RESOURCE SERVICE
1424 16th St. NW Suite 404
Washington, DC 20036
202-328-0002 fax 202-462-2183
www.nirs.org nirsnet@nirs.org

August 25, 1999
For Immediate Release
Contact: Mary Olson 202-328-0002

"John Koskinen, Head of the President's White House Council on Year 2000 Transition, has been telling state officials that they should assume an electrical outage of three weeks duration as part of their contingency planning. While Koskinen is not asserting that such an outage will occur, shouldn't the nation's nuclear reactor operators also take this as the baseline for their contingency planning?" Said Mary Olson, NIRS Nuclear Y2K Project Coordinator. "Loss of off-site power and loss of back-up power, also called Station Blackout, is the single largest contributor of risk to reactor operation, according to NRC. What makes January 1, 2000 unique is that every reactor system in the country, and indeed, the world will be challenged on the same day."

-- John Whitley (jwhitley@inforamp.net), December 06, 1999.

John says he is following his own three day advice:

-----Original Message----- From: John_A._Koskinen Sent: 06 December, 1999 1:13 PM To: steve@davislogic.com Subject: Re: Koskinen Prepares for 3 months

As I've noted on every occasion I've been asked, we'll have the suggested three DAYS supply of food and water and the flashlights and batteries my wife gives everyone every year at Christmas. You can quote me.

Thanks.

-- Steven Davis (steven@davislogic.com), December 06, 1999.

I suspect that Mary Olson of NIRS just picked up the Koskinen/Grindley bit and is re-telling it, without realizing that the original was misrepresented.

It's my understanding that a federal employee (not Koskinen) during a conference call mentioned the possible three-week scenario to an aide of the Georgia state CIO. The CIO, a friend of Grindley, then passed that info along to Rep. Grindley. When I contacted Rep. Grindley last July, he did not know the identity of the federal employee and stated that it would now be difficult to find out.

I've seen other references stating that Rep. Grindley himself has prepared for three months. That seems credible. He has a number of small children, I believe.

I know of no evidence to show that Koskinen himself has ever told any state officials, in Georgia or elsewhere, to prepare for power outages lasting up to three weeks. If anybody has such, now is the time to come forward. I do suspect that the feds are sweating possible cyberterrorist attacks against our infrastructure, including power grids. This is also Rep. Grindley's view. A joint NSA/DoD/FBI exercise in 1997, code-named Project Eligible Receiver, showed the technical feasiblity of such attacks.

-- Don Florence (dflorence@zianet.com), December 06, 1999.

First thought that comes to my mind is HOW MUCH food and water Mr. Ko-Skin-Em has in his $50,000,000 bunker. If y2k turns out to be serious will Mr. Ko-Skin-Em allow his wife and family to share his bunker?

It sure sounds like his son may be doing some serious preps.

Ray

-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), December 06, 1999.

Let me add mine :

.... the whole thread deserves a flying pig award....

-- Hillbilly (Hillbilly@possum.creek), December 06, 1999.

Koskinens personal contigency plans include bugging out to his sons pad.

-- catsinthecradle (karlacalif@aol.com), December 06, 1999.

to whom it may concern: redfaced that I jumped to such quick conclusions without checking more thoroughly I, again, apologize for this thread. I was tired, distracted, I couldn't hear Whitley very well and having trouble following him as he talks fast and I of neccessity had the volume down low. Not to mention frustrated at the administration's whole Y2K stance.

But still, I thank you for not hosing or flaming me (too bad).

-- S. David Bays (SDBAYS@prodigy.net), December 06, 1999.