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Anyone else see them all over the sky this morning? I'm calling a friend at the Weather Channel to see if atmospheric conditions can cause contrials from horizon to horizon.

Weirdest thing I ever saw. The were 727's (looked like through my binoculars) Maybe at 15-20,000 feet.

I called all the local news organizations, the FAA, Dobbins, and the mayors office....oh, and yes the police. WXIA assignment desk guy went to the roof to see them. He wants to find out more.

Anyone else out there? If you saw them, call the local news to see if someone can get an investigation going.

-- Duke 1983 (Duke1983@AOL.com), December 03, 1999


DOes anyone have any factual informations about the conditions that case contrails? I thought I heard someone on this forum say the planes must be much higher (than 15-20,000 ft) to produce contrails.

The other aspect of this is that it is now winter time, and we al might be hyper sensative to a regularly occurring event.

I'm not trying to debunk the chemtrail idea, but I sure would like to compare the chemtrail sightings with some factual contrail data. Is there anyone in the science community taking on the chemtrail issue?


-- C. Hill (pinionsmachine@hotmail.com), December 03, 1999.

Duke! Well done, and that's spendid advice. If these things are up there, someone, somewhere in the mainstream media is going to take an interest eventually. Please keep us posted on what happens.

-- Colin MacDonald (roborogerborg@yahoo.com), December 03, 1999.

Yeah, we got contrails here this morning too!

Oh wait.....Sorry......it's just shaving cream on my spectacles.

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), December 03, 1999.

C. Hill,

I'm amazed at myself for wading into this weird issue on more than one thread this morning. Oh well, in for a penny, in for a pound...

I'm not a pilot, don't know diddly about planes, but the chemtrails I have seen do not look anything like contails in the sky at the same time: chemtrails stretch in an unbroken thick line from horizon to horizon, and when they eventually disperse they drop a misty spray that looks like it came from an ag sprayer. Jets w/ contrails visible at the same time are WAY higher up, and the trails are short and disappear w/ in a few minutes.

-- silver ion (reluctantlyweighingin@again.weird), December 03, 1999.


Fascinating that you should make fun at others expense. I just went out my front door and looked up at those trails. I have been looking at the skies now for about 57 years and I have never seen anything that looks like this. I live in Marietta, just north of Atlanta. This is very chilling. What is this stuff?

-- Jean (jmacmanu@bellsouth.net), December 03, 1999.

When it happens CALL EVERYBODY YOU KNOW and ask them to go look out their windows. Call the police, the fire department, the hospitals, stand at your window with your cordless phone and make people LOOK !!! It is a most peculiar sight and it is happening all over now. It happened quite a bit in the summertime too, all seasons. Seems to be increasing as The Date roars closer. There is a connection, maybe a "use it or lose it" urgency.

Do not worry about the scoffs of others if you see these. Reality rules. Try to make as many people aware by asking them to look out their windows. Once seen, the indignant demand to KNOW pushes the ridicule aside.

Good luck!

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), December 03, 1999.

Jean: Don't pay any attention to Craig. Unfortunately, his parents didn't have any children.

-- cody (cody@y2ksurvive.com), December 03, 1999.

Jean said, "Craig, Fascinating that you should make fun at others expense."

Jean, it is fascinating, isn't it? Craig has appeared on the forum today just for this purpose. The explanation is that his religious beliefs require him to ridicule and provoke people who have done him no harm. Just ask him...what would Jesus do?

-- (WWJD@not.not), December 03, 1999.

Cobwebs shall be spun across the sky near the Day of the Great Purification.
- Hopi Prophecy -
I've wondered for the past decade what that meant, I think I Get It now.

-- Dan G (earth_changes@hotmail.com), December 03, 1999.

Call the news stations!!!!

At least one of the local stations has a weather cam on thier roof. They show timelapse sunsets and cloud formations from time to time. Does anyone know which station that is? Anyway, call all the local news sources!

WGST News Radio 404-367-6400 WXIA Channel 11 404-892-1611 WGNK Channel 46 404-325-4646

WSB News Radio *750 on the cell phone.

Get Working everyone!!!!!

-- Duke 1983 (Duke1983@AOL.com), December 03, 1999.

Just spoke to the WGNX News Room...

Thay have Jim Reinbold (sp?), a helicopter reporter looking into it.

Let's not let this one get away from us. Call all the stations!!!!

Call the Mayor's office!

-- Duke 1983 (Duke1983@AOL.com), December 03, 1999.

I'm over here in Columbia,S.C. and noticed them when I got up about 8:00. It's 12:00 now and they're everywhere and 2 jets still up there spraying.

-- Curly~Q (Curly@Q.COM), December 03, 1999.

WSB Radio says they just ran a story on it. Just a coincidental convergence of four aircraft according to the FAA. HAH!

I told them it's been going on for hours, and that thecoincidence has been all morning.

The weather cam is with WSB TV. I talked to someone in their newsroom, and told them they should get the time lapse photography of this one!

Come on people, let's get some calling going!!!

-- Duke 1983 (Duke1983@AOL.com), December 03, 1999.

Congratulations, Duke, you're making people look and ask questions! GO FOR IT! So the FAA knows about it, and has their lies pre-prepared.


Rally your city; when it happens, CALL everybody! Get the media on it! When enough people SEE they will badger with questions. Let the media know this is happening all across the country. TOO MANY TIMES for it to be "coincidence" !!!!!

There really is something real and bizarre behind this!

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), December 03, 1999.

--it must be massive. It's all the way to north georgia, and was all day long yesterday, too. I witnessed "normal", quickly dissipating contrails, and chemtrails at the same time.

we're in for a real sick time around christmas. bytes it.


-- zog (zzoggy@yahoo.com), December 03, 1999.

Saw the same thing in Philly last evening. Planes with normal contrails and another plane at the same time with a contrail that did not disappear. There was a distinct cross-hatch in the sky.

Saw one long, wide trail this morning but there are high white clouds so it is hard to see (at least I hope those are high white clouds).

-- witness (chem@trails.sky), December 03, 1999.


The link above has quite a few from all over the country. The skies over Phidelphia looked like some of these pictures yesterday.

If someone with knowledge of normal contrails could comment, it would be very helpful. This is all very strange.

-- witness (chem@trails.com), December 03, 1999.

I live in South Carolina almost near Qurly Q, and I have to agree, they are everywhere.It was about 10:30 this morning when I looked up in the sky and saw them spraying.Its almost one o'clock now and you can still still the chemtrails.Something is definetly going on, but what???

-- cryptkeeper- (eaten@alive.com), December 03, 1999.

I've been watching all morning since 9:00 AM southest of Atlanta. As others have said, you can see "normal" jets and the trail disappears in a short time. This other stuff builds up into clouds and lingers. Am working so can't call too many sources right now but took pictures, movie. If anyone knows what this stuff is, please elaborate. It's really creepy. I know you can E-mail the I-team at Fox 5 news. Will look that up, & let's e-mail them, the more the better.

-- dumblond (imablond@airhead.com), December 03, 1999.

Looks like they've finished their work here in Atlanta

1:35 p.m.

-- Duke 1983 (Duke1983@AOL.com), December 03, 1999.

Witness, your Link has some good photos. The one over the Grand Canyon looks *exactly* like the lines over us previously. Our "parking lot in the sky" had lines that stretched all horizons, meticulously spaced and even. Thanks for the Link.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), December 03, 1999.

Crop dusting at 20,000 feet! Never thought I'd see it.

-- Duke 1983 (Duke1983@AOL.com), December 03, 1999.

First time I took this real real serious, I live about 50 miles east of Atlanta, got out and drove to small local town this morning. Looked up, and have never seen anything like it. Sky covered with regular chriscross trails.

-- goldbug (goldbug@mint.com), December 03, 1999.

Goldbug, yep, it's something that truly must be seen up close and personal to be believed.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), December 03, 1999.

They are in Central Virginia right now. 2 days in a row that I've noticed. Oh well. Coincidentally my daughter had up to 105 temp but she's getting better the last few days and she's on antibiotics for strep throat. She's been in bed very weak but getting better. She missed 3 days of school and she should be back on Monday. My husband hasn't been feeling well the last few days either. I'm a nurse so I don't get sick LOL. Have to take care of my two babies. Also, I love the pretty rainbow I see now in the sky. I give up! Hello to A and L.

-- Debi (LongTimeLurker@shy.com), December 03, 1999.

Goldbug...Please!!!! give the news media in Atlanta a call to report this. A "coincidental convergenge" of four aircraft does not occurr repeatedly across an entire region! The news media has got to follow this story!!

Just talked to WGNX - The helicopter reporter insists it's condensation........

How frustrating!

Would LOVE to see the time lapse loop from the WSB weather cam!

THEN have them say it's just consensation. And since when are the normal airtrafic patterns in parallel lines n-s and e-w. Normally they are consecutive..

-- Duke 1983 (Duke1983@AOL.com), December 03, 1999.

Someone suggested we start a "Chemtrail" forum,..and with the amount of threads being directed at this issue,..I'm starting to think it would be a great idea. I'll start it up if there is interest enough. It could also be a clearing house for other various off topic concerns in the same vein. Would you use a seperate forum for your Chemtrail threads? Let me know what you think..I'd be happy to host..kritter

-- kritter (kritter@adelphia.net), December 03, 1999.

I just walked outside to smoke a cigarette, and they are still spraying over here.The sky is starting to look like a checker board, lines crisscrossing every which way.(South Carolina 2:35pm)

-- cryptkeeper- (eaten@alive.com), December 03, 1999.

Doesn't ANYONE have a digital camera to take a picture of the sky and post it here????

-- Evidence I need Evidence (whereisthe@picture.com), December 03, 1999.

Let me tell you people who haven't seen this with your own eyes: I was very freaked out this morning.

I've seen the pictures on the web, and had this impression of something that looked like sky writing. Pretty interesting, but that's about it. Let me tell you, though, the scale of this was unbelievable!

It was the entire freakin' sky! There were 4-6 planes involved in the operation, and the trails went from horizon to horizon!

Not only that, but look at the satellite image from the weather channel on this loop:

http://www.weather.com/weather/sat/regions/animated/southeast_sat_277x 187.html

Notice that at 12:49 there is a straight line of "clouds from Atlanta area to Columbia SC area. Is this a sattelit anomaly?

No doubt about it, people, THIS WAS BIG TIME WEIRD.

You gotta believe something is going on!

-- Duke 1983 (Duke1983@AOL.com), December 03, 1999.

I've seen 'em - yesterday (Thursday) was more vivid and unexplicable) than today; and have no physical explanation - I've been looking at contrails and high-altitude jets, passenger plane patterns, and high-altitude dog-fights/rocket flights for 35 plus year - and this regular pattern of criss-crosses doesn't make sense: not even arial surveilance (camera/radar topography work doesn't require crossing patterns, only back-and-forth parallel patterns....

I like the quote:

"Crop dusting at 20,000 feet! Never thought I'd see it.

-- Duke 1983

-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Marietta, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), December 03, 1999.

Robert, thanks for your posts re chemtrails and your own witnessing. Especially interesting to us are reports from pilots and ppl with aircraft experience.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), December 03, 1999.

Ya'll might remember I reported these things all over the sky in the north Texas/Dallas area....same thing on the area it covered...you couldn't look in any direction w/out seeing them. None today. It was nice to see the blue sky. The day after they sprayed, there were these grayish, low-lying clouds all day that produced no rain. Everyone kept saying "Gosh they weren't predicting all these clouds until Saturday...."

Things that make you go hmmmmm......or "WHAT THE HELL???"

Way to GO Duke! I plan on doing the very same thing next time I see them....I am going to majorly rattle a few cages and do some pointing and making a very big deal of it!!!!

-- preparing (preparing@home.com), December 03, 1999.

I live in myrtle beach so.carolina and have been reading alot about this and never have seen them till today.All over the sky.Weird things going on!!!!!!!!

-- (sun68ray@aol.com), December 03, 1999.

Saw the planes on my way home tonight in Charlotte, NC. Could NOT believe what I was seeing. The sunset was particularly eerie, a criss-cross of puffy grey streaks against a pink sky. What struck me about the trails is that they plainly started at the nothern edge of the city limits and disappeared into thick cloud cover as the planes headed toward Columbia, SC. To the north, it was clear blue, to the south, very heavy cloud cover. It looked like whatever was causing the trails was "turned on" as the city was approached.

Look out, Old Git. These planes may be moving north this weekend.


-- Roland (nottelling@nowhere.com), December 03, 1999.

I just watched the 6:00 P.M. Channel 2 Action news in Atlanta. Glen Burns, the meteriologist, talked about the contrails. He said that because some warmer, moister air is coming in this region that the upper atmosphere had a higher humidity, and it was a perfect day for contrails. He showed the time lapse tower weather cam in the city that showed a bunch of them over the course of the day. Sounded logical & perfectly harmless, just the right atmospheric conditions that make them show up. That would explain why the lower-flying aircraft did not make them because the air was drier down below. That would also make sense why they were all over the Southeast and not just in one area. Talk about air pollution!

-- dumblond (imablond@airhead.com), December 03, 1999.

Get a picture - if you please ...... now, remember what "they're" telling us - it's all in your mind, we're all kooks and fanatics, it's only atmospherics, it's routine......

See what I meant by "too regular" and "too systematic"? Clouds, atmospheric conditions affecting regular contrails don't act that a way....regular plane patterns don't criss-cross in stabile patterns like that.

Now, like I said - I don't know what the aircraft are doing - but there is NO operations of ANY type at any level of classiification by any known unit of any force that NEEDS that kind of pattern over this kind fo area that affects major airports and cities - not photography, not mapping, not surveilance, not radar calibration, not transport, not ATC "hold patterns", not anything. Not training, not combat, nothing.


- except a carefully regulated dispersal of fluids into the atmosphere to ensure a uniformly even, maximum spread of the fluid (powder/gel/whatever) agent over as wide area as possible from several coordinated aircraft in as short a period of time as possible.

-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Marietta, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), December 03, 1999.

Chemtrails all over yesterday (we're west of Atlanta). A very precise grid pattern, like tic-tac-toe but with four vertical and four horizontal lines. This pattern was repeated from horizon to horizon. Was up there before 9:30 am and the clouds, though spread out, were STILL THERE six hours later. What started out as a beautiful, cloudless blue sky was filled with white "clouds" most of the day. Same thing today, but over Atlanta. I saw new patterns being formed around 3:30 as I was leaving the city. Lots of X's, some with a third line though the middle, and "smoke on a rope" patterns. yuck

-- Jill D. (jdance@mindspring.com), December 03, 1999.

Duke et al, No, they were not finished at 1:35pm. I stepped outside at 3:45 about an hour E. of Atlanta and almost dropped my teeth when I saw an apple pie top style pattern of chemtrails being layed out by about 8 or 9 jets simultaneously. Normal contrails disperse at high altitude rather quickly but these suckers slowly expanded and lowered themselves into a broad mass of foggy clouds. I thought all these people were nuts until I saw this. Then, an hour later, I was up on my roof cleaning out the gutters, and the normal pattern of jets from Hartsfield was resumed, one jet every 5 or 10 minuets and NONE of them leaving trails of any kind! Now the question is why?

-- doktorbob (downsouth@dixie.com), December 03, 1999.

Yep, I saw them too I work in a high rise office building near the northwest part of I285. I noticed them about 8 AM, counted 16 without even trying. By 11:30 AM these chemtrails/contrails whatever had turned into long ribbony cloulds....three and a half hours later and they hadn't disipated. But you could also see other jets leaving "normal" contrails...pencil thin white lines that gradually expanded, thinned-out and soon disipated. Mentioned it to co-workers...nothing...all they care about is if the company stock rose in value today.


-- gato (pencil@mindspring.com), December 04, 1999.

Goodness gracious.......a little joke about shaving cream and Cody et al have their knickers in a twist!!

Lighten up a bit.......it's good for you!

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), December 04, 1999.

Hi~ New to this forum...someone posted a link to our site (www.chemtrails.sites.cc) from here and I came to check it out. Thanks to whoever you are! We appreciate it. Comment: Regarding getting the media involved...for those of you who haven't seen it, if you will check out this broadcast from KSEE news in Cali, those guys did a piece on the chemtrails and it was actually decent. www.broadcast.com/television/ksee/archive.html and check out the broadcast for Tuesday Nov. 30. at 6:30pm. On the real player, move forward in the broadcast to 14:09. The piece is called Phantom Flights.

Also, The chemtrails are being formed from cannisters attached to the tails of these jets. We have some good video of these for anyone interested.

Last, to the one who posted about the Hopi prophecy and cobwebs, please email me at webmaster@chemtrails.sites.cc and send more info. We'd like to check into it if that's real. Thanks! S.

-- Stacey (webmaster@chemtrails.sites.cc), December 05, 1999.

Hard to see the chemtrails through the Tear Gas and Pepper Spray here in Seattle, but will keep an watery eye for them.

The meteorologist who said it was normal, check that guy for human pulse, make sure he's not one of the pod people from "The Body Snatchers".

Thanks for the heads up on the chemtrails.

-- Zen Angel (chemtrails@skywatch.com), December 05, 1999.

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