It's 9:00am in Central Illinois, AND THEY ARE SPRAYING!! : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread

Walked outside on a hunch, looked up and am beholding our tax dollars at the form of a nicely laid grid pattern. (At least 4 different jets are doing the work!

-- TM (, November 30, 1999



I hate to be a dummy, but will a typical gas chromatograph test pick up the components of something like an anthrax vaccine? If I were to sneeze on the piece of paper, would that leave a telltale sign for the GC to pick up?


-- Ed Yourdon (, November 30, 1999.

OK--now -lay a piece of paper on the ground and weight it down-- tomorrow pick it up and take it to a lab (I work in a lab if you can't find one) and have a gas chrom test done. You will feel kind of silly after it is said and done but you really should do it for your own piece of mind.

-- av8r (, November 30, 1999.

or peace of mind.

Piece of mind is what you get when you come to this forum...

-- eubie (, November 30, 1999.

TM, hope you are smarter than we were. We were so blown away we didn't act as we should. IF there's a next time, Ashton will put on his full-face filter mask and go out there and take photos. Got our camera by the door just in case and the mask accessible. Our problem was we were pollies about this and just could not believe what we were seeing. By the time our brains 1/2 accepted it, the sky was massively streaked and spreading and we were too afraid to go out for more than a couple seconds. 7 hours later there was zero visible trace or residue on surfaces outside; neither of us have gotten ill; we'll take pictures if it occurs again. So many reports from all over -- we are aware that the planes often DO leave sticky cobwebby strands and sickness behind.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (, November 30, 1999.

Go here for photos...

-- Uncle Bob (UNCLB0B@Tminus31&counting.down), November 30, 1999.

The Chemtrails are some kind of disinfectant. Dbd and some other chemicals. We are under some type of bio warfare threat condition. they are spraying to either lessen it's effects or to pre-vacinate incase of the real thing some time in the near future. Collect samples when ever you can. They need analysis to determine what the spraying is for. It is happening now in all 50 states every day. An investigation into what exactly is being sprayed must be done..

World net daily this one is for you. We need investigative journalist to do some fact finding on this one asap.

-- y2k aware mike (y2k aware mike @ conservation . com), November 30, 1999.

I had noticed the spraying for quite some time in the Austin area. Now that I have relocated, I have been aware of the spraying at least once every one to two weeks in the College Station area. This area is rural and quite distant from any major airports. I have also recognized an obvious distinction in coloration of the clouds when the sun reflects from certain angles. The normal clouds that appear at the same time do not reflect the same as the chemtrail clouds. The chemtrail clouds would certainly appear to have chemicals or other unnatural substances causing the coloration.

It would be interesting to compare on a map the locations of the spraying in relation to the biosphere regions that are proposed for de-population vs. the planned and controlled populated areas.

-- Texas Terri (, November 30, 1999.

Where is Abdul the Raghead with the Mistral MANPADS missle when we need him???

-- Z (Z@Z.Z), November 30, 1999.

By the way...has anyone heard anything about the chemtrail protest rally that was to have happened on the 20th or 21st in New York?

-- Texas Terri (, November 30, 1999.

Must... resist... urge...

New readers: Y2K is a real issue, regardless of whether or not you are a conspiracy theorist. This post is largely Off Topic (OT). Please don't be put off by it.

Please tell me that wasn't really Ed Yourdon feeding anthrax to a troll? Shudder.

-- Colin MacDonald (, November 30, 1999.

---I've talked to them (WND) personally on the phone during the big flap last year about this, when I was really pushing it in my editorials. The deal is, worldnet is fully aware of this, they have a lot more info, but don't really have good enough of a smoking gun/proof to go public with it. At least that was what they told me anyway. They are really trying hard on a lot of fronts. There's only a handful of places that have the courage to cover a lot of the things that they do cover. How would anyone here like to be the target of the full force of the arkanfuhrer's poliitcal and worse hit squads? Huh? Remember a few weeks ago when larry klayman and friends almost lost their lives with that high speed hit and run attempt on their lives? This is the big leagues, it takes guts, not macho anonymous electronic chest beating on some bulletin boards. Who has the guts? Step up to the plate, let's see. A lot of folks are real good about wanting "someone" else to go out on a limb and defy the king and the behind the scenes goons, and world net has done it,over and over,but their are limits. Me, I've been waiting for over two years for the mass programmer/engineer faction to say heck with non disclosure, millions of peoples lives and health and security is at stake, this is a higher cause, so this (y2k concerns) is potentially so important a whole lot of us are going to go public. But it hasn't happened, has it, and there's enough hard copy evidence sitting right here right now in the collective hands of regular lurkers and posters right here on this board to blow the lid off the whole y2k cover up deal, but it HASN'T HAPPENED, has it? The best we can get is anonymous (mostly) anecdotal stories, and that's about all you are going to get on the chemtrail spraying too, until it's TOO DANG LATE.< P> Geez, people get KILLED who go up the ladder into exposing coverups in this administration, they get MURDERED and it's NOT COVERED ANYWHERE in the main stream press, let alone fat greasy oprah show.

My opinion, the US public is reaping what it's sowed for a long time. Apathy, let the other guy do it, I'm not gonna investigate any of that whacko conspiracy stuff cuz I just don't "feel" like it could be real, so there, mr. smarty pants conspiracy doomer. I got a basketball game on tv, that's a LOT more important things than MURDER in high places....Sh-e-e-e-sh

reality bytes it zog

-- zog (, November 30, 1999.

This is not at all OT, Colin, and the fact that Ed is so concerned about this should make you realize just how important it is.

-- (, November 30, 1999.


Thanks for the advice. Got about a good dozen photos of the trails. Fortunately for us today, the bulk of the spraying was in the southeast quadrant of the sky...unlikely that any residue can be collected though. INVAR (who I believe abides in the Western KY/Southern IL region) noted spraying there several days ago. I assume they (the sprayers) will be moving farther north as the week progresses (if weather conditions remain favorable).

-- TM (, November 30, 1999.

.mil .gov have PERSISTENTLY and CONSISTENTLY equated Y2K with terrorism. One has to factor it in. The sprayings are accelerating as Rollover approaches: there is a connection. Chemtrails are not OT.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (, November 30, 1999.

Ed, A typical gas chrom would not detect the biologicals you mention however, an HPLC would detect these substances. The typical gas chrom would only detect chemicals.

-- av8r (, November 30, 1999.

IF there's a next time, Ashton will put on his full-face filter mask and go out there and take photos. -Ashton & Leska in Cascadia

A photo of Ashton in his "full-face filter mask" taking a photo of contrails. Now *THAT* would be a Kodak moment I'd be willing to pay for!

I hate to be a dummy, but will a typical gas chromatograph test pick up the components of something like an anthrax vaccine? -Ed Yourdon

Oh no! Et tu Ed!?

-- CD (, November 30, 1999.

CD, wait until the stuff rains down on your parade. Then you'll be scrambling for cover and answers too.

-- sightings (increasing@year.end), November 30, 1999.

.mil .gov have PERSISTENTLY and CONSISTENTLY equated Y2K with terrorism. One has to factor it in. The sprayings are accelerating as Rollover approaches: there is a connection. Chemtrails are not OT. -Ashton & Leska in Cascadia

Further proof that anything and everything can be deemed "on topic" for TB2000.

-- CD (, November 30, 1999.

We live near Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, Ohio. I've seen these billowy contrails frequently for months now, but just assumed it was an air force exercise of some kind, or else just a whole lot of commercial jets.

When I mention this to people, they just shrug or shake their heads. They consider these trails to be completely normal.

How do you folks get anyone to pay attention...?

-- they already consider (me@a.crackpot), November 30, 1999.

av8r,( or anyone for that matter) ....can you enlighten me on what a HPLC test is? Can any testing lab do this? (university biology, medical clinic..etc.) What kind of cost am I looking at? Any one out there with specifics on how to go about collecting, preparing, and transporting a sample for testing?

-- TM (, November 30, 1999.

So far it looks like several ppl feel the spraying might involve a bio agent. The military has been insisting on vaccinating its members for anthrax -- to the point where many servicepeople have left in protest. This is taking place at a time when the military is suffering severe personnel shortages. The Emir of Bahrain dropped dead instantly of a heart attack as Cohen was talking to him about "Y2K and terrorism."

For those of you not familiar with the .gov .mil's extensive warnings re Y2K + terrorism, please look in TB2K's archives. Diane has done an excellent job starting / contributing to threads preserving official pronouncements and reports detailing the Y2K Terrorism NBC Connection.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (, November 30, 1999.

It's 12:37 EST, and I'm NE from your location about 120 miles. So much for going out to lunch...I'm stayin' inside!

-- Tim (, November 30, 1999.

How do you folks get anyone to pay attention...? - "they already consider"

Try this... Next time you see a contrail, don a gas mask and go out in your front yard with a camera. Point the camera at the sky. Guarantee you will get folks to "pay attention".

-- CD (, November 30, 1999.

Our prudent precautions must come from all that time spent fully OHSA masked, gowned, goggled, etc working in hospital isolation rooms watching patients die, suffocating, from remedy-resistant "unknown" respiratory infections. In fact, we got on the Forum last year when we quit our hospital job because it was so hazardous, and we were both very ill with a stubborn URI, and Leska had pneumonia.

Nothing like going thru it to decide not to go thru it again ...

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (, November 30, 1999.

CD....I don't mean to be a smart-ass but if you don't like this thread, why do you continue to read it. It obviously holds some interest for you. Maybe OT but what the hell. Enjoy!

-- (, November 30, 1999.

CD....I don't mean to be a smart-ass but if you don't like this thread, why do you continue to read it. -rcarver

You misunderstand rcarver. I in fact *DO* like these type threads. Not only do I find them amusing but I feel it gives me insight into the psyche of those who post here on TB2000.

-- CD (, November 30, 1999.

Not to mention the info we get from FEMA sources up the chain.

More official concern than is being leaked to the public.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (, November 30, 1999.

I have seen the chemtrails over Dallas many times, I know what these people are describing has happened here and many other places in this country. I don't know about the whole anthrax thing, but I know when the hubby went to Saudi for Desert Storm in 1990, he was vaccinated for anthrax. He didn't protest it (like a good lil soldier) but it bothered him A LOT. Still bothers him.

-- preparing (, November 30, 1999.

We've been sprayed here ALL DAY!!! (NW Georgia, near Chattanooga)

I noticed the first trails when I headed out in the car late this morning. The sky was clear blue... not a cloud in sight, only the first of the chemtrails. (Wasn't a grid this time though.) By this afternoon the sky is just covered with them.

We got sick the last time this happened.

Hey all you doubters out there... fuss all you want. Call names too. Doesn't bother me a bit. I know what I saw. I know what I saw AGAIN today. I also KNOW that someone in about every family I know in this area got sick the last time.

Coming soon to a location near you.... heads up... gp

-- georgia peach (, November 30, 1999.

TM, Hey.... we are in Illnios also. I have to say, I wish I would have looked up today! I was inside all day.

Were in Illnios are you? I would guess Peoria? Champaign? We are about 1 hour north of Peoria. I would really like to know where they sprayed today... I had my sister driving straight south at about 10am going to southern Illnios.

Good luck to us all.

-- bulldog (, November 30, 1999.

HPLC= High Pressure Liquid Chromatography

Any university with a chemistry or biology department will have one, as well as a GC. Labs that do enviromental testing will probably have one (check yellow pages).

Biologicals can also be identified with scanning electron microscope. Some universities have them. That would probably be spendy.

-- Sam Mcgee (, November 30, 1999.

-- Texas Terri (, November 30, 1999.>

The stars at night,

Are big and bright...dum dum dum dum,

Deep in the heart of Texaaaaaas....



Terri, Could you PLEASE edify me as to where these "regions" are? I'd like to be able to plan which one to move too.

ALK (formerly from the late, great, state, of Texas)

-- Al K. Lloyd (, November 30, 1999.

Hey bulldog, where are you in Illinois. I am 1 hour north of Peoria. we have to be pretty close. between Peoria and the Quad Cities. Jo

-- Jo (, November 30, 1999.

I live in deep southern Illinois. The sky here has been filled with

chemtrails frequently. I started seeing them in mid-1998. Have taken

photos several times this year, sometimes straight up over my house.

Sometimes these things drift in from somewhere west of here after they

have spread out somewhat and made a weird looking mess with long

pieces of chemtrail left here and there. I have become sick a couple

of times with that breathing difficulty that some people describe.

-- Co. G (, November 30, 1999.


Between Champaign and Bloomington. The bulk of the spraying was south- southeast of my location...probably centered more toward the southern part of Champaign county (we were on the northern edge of the chemtrail formation)....a drive down I-57 would have taken you right under the spraying.

-- TM (, November 30, 1999.


Perhaps someone here on the forum can recall where you might look in the archives for info on the UNESCO Biosphere plans. I know there was at one time a link to a U.S. map showing the regions.

Otherwise, you can use your search engine for "biosphere". There is a link to a news report by WorldNetDaily from earlier in the year covering congressional discussions and concerns of the UNESCO program and other links that debate the take over of private land for the biosphere reserves.

As of now, the theories behind the chemtrails spraying is all speculation. I just threw this theory out as a possible correlation. It would certainly tie in with the U.N.'s goal to eliminate a large segment of the world's population.

-- Texas Terri (, November 30, 1999.

TM, thanks for the exact area. Yes, my sister went south on 57, right under all that stuff. I am not going to tell her (she is a DGI), but will keep in contact with her and watch her health. I'll let you know if anything happens out of the norm.

Jo, I am near Galesburg. Yes we are very close. It is nice to know we are not the only GI within our state ;-)

-- bulldog (, December 01, 1999.

Bulldog, yes we are close. And yes I am glad I am not the only "crazy" person in the area.LOL Good luck to you and yours JO

-- jo (, December 01, 1999.

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