Sick Of Hearing About The Spilt DGI Milk

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Raising Awareness/Turning DGIs into GIs:

Lets face it. The day is lost. The Polly juggernaut is irresistible. Or. Please stop whipping the dead *ss polly-mino seqor--it isn't going anywhere.

Man, can we get a little perspective around here.

Food, guns, bug out places, and other stuff are like mere life boats to save a person if things go to hell in Y2K. Some seem to be implying that if more people had prepped the country could somehow survive a wholesale computer meltdown with no sweat. This is kind of like saying had the Titanic carried more life boats the ship itself would've sunk.

Or.

Prepping might save ordinary people, but prepping could not possibly save cities, the iron triangle, the oil industry, Social Security, or any other large concern. We are coming to the the narrow passage here. People and groups of people might make it through the crack, and not much else can.

BTW anybody remember an old tv show called The Time Tunnel? These two guys are caught in a runaway time machine, and they wind up landing at all these important points in the past--like the Battle of Troy. And you what? With all their knowledge of history (plus tommy guns!) these guys never changed history...Ever...

-- Ocotillo (peeling@out.===), November 30, 1999

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I liked the parts where puffs of smoke would come from the actual time tunnel machine (it was forever blowing fuses and whatnot).

The folks at 'mission control' kept saying it would be fixed in 2 or 3 days, but it never was.

-- Me (me@me.me), November 30, 1999.


Nice Titanic analogy. Clever and effective.

-- Hokie (nn@va.com), November 30, 1999.

"Prepping might save ordinary people, but prepping could not possibly save cities, the iron triangle, the oil industry, Social Security, or any other large concern."

Octillo - I see personal prep as a way to provide societal flexibility while the big boys get on with any FOF tinkering next year. In fact, I see it as a personal responsibility to provide that flexibility to society. Each segment of society has its role.

While I see far less likelihood of sudden infrastructure meltdown than I did a year ago, I see far greater likelihood that ordinary folks will not be able to cope with y2k impacts because of the paucity of prep, in spite of what I believe to be a far less serious scenario.

-- Brooks (brooksbie@hotmail.com), November 30, 1999.


"This is kind of like saying had the Titanic carried more life boats the ship itself would've sunk."(sic) I assume you meant to say would not have sunk. True, but if they had enough lifeboats, everybody could have been saved, and nobody would have drowned, after all it took over four hours to sink. I think that would have been a significantly different outcome.

IF every family in the US would have simply prepped by buying a month of food over the last two years, purchased some bleach for sanitation an water purification, and some other simple low cost or no cost preps then GI's wouldn't be worried about the DGI's potential for panic.

When I first heard of Y2K I kept thinking of what I'ld need based on staying in my subdivision. I went out and purchased enough outdoor Romex to wire up several neighbors to my genset so if the natgas stayed up there would be at least 4 warm houses in the neighborhood. I bought enough dry bleach to handle the entire subdivision's needs, $30 whoopie! I offered a copies of TB2000 to the mayor and city manager. After my conversation with them and the subsequent return (unopened) of the book it dawned on me what Y2K would be like if the power really does fail. I can handle the technical problems of Y2K just fine thank you. I can NOT handle hundreds of DGI's panicing and doing stupid things if the electricity goes out.

IF the power goes down it seems likely that it will go down hard and stay down for more than just a day or so because power companies have already fixed all the easy and obvious Y2K problems. IF the power goes down it will be because of some hidden or difficult problem. As my friend says, Getting a power station back online is whole bunch easier when there is electricity, food, heat, and water, than it would be with everybody running around the cold dark plant with flashlights trying to figure out what went wrong.

"anybody remember an old tv show called The Time Tunnel? These two guys are -snip- these guys never changed history...Ever..." Sorry, repeating the plot of B sci-fi TV show doesn't constitute anything valid.

Nobody ever said that prepping would make a power failure from Y2K "no sweat" but I think it would be obvious to everybody that disaster preparedness can make a huge VAST difference to to outcome of every type of disaster.

-- Ken Seger (kenseger@earthlink.net), November 30, 1999.


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"This is kind of like saying had the Titanic carried more life boats the ship itself would've sunk."(sic) I assume you meant to say would not have sunk. True, but if they had enough lifeboats, everybody could have been saved, and nobody would have drowned, after all it took over four hours to sink. I think that would have been a significantly different outcome.
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Four hours was the myth in the New York papers immediately after the disaster. The berg was hit at 11:40pm on April 14, 1912. It slipped under the Atlantic at 2:20am on the 15th. E.T. 2hrs40min. The breach in the hull amounted to about 12 square feet--a very irregular 12 square feet at that.

An analogy to Y2K is that the hull probably had about 120,000 square feet of surface area. Damage at the magnitude of .01% cascaded into total disaster.

-- Slobby Don (slobbydon@hotmail.com), November 30, 1999.



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