Y2K preps in relationship to the expected quake in Western U.S. by this coming Sunday.

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I'll keep this short. There is going to be a moderate earthquake (over 5.0) in the western U.S. between now and Monday. Since my last post about planes falling from the skys there have been 3 "news worthy" ones in the U.S. alone.

Don't doubt me on this one. I haven't been wrong yet.

Gee Diane, your so cute when you get angry. :-)

-- C. Gerges (quake@study.sci), November 23, 1999


Is this simply your opinion or is there any supporting documentation?

-- Arnie Rimmer (Arnie_Rimmer@usa.net), November 23, 1999.

We're ready but will beseach God to deflect it from Cascadia.

The subduction zone has been rumbling all week.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), November 23, 1999.


It is my opinion that Diane really is cute when she gets angry. :-)

-- C. Gerges (quake@study.sci), November 23, 1999.

C. Gerges,

Wanna make it interesting?


-- Randers (coyotecanyon@hotmail.com), November 23, 1999.

LOL Gerges!

-- a (a@a.a), November 23, 1999.

"C" - you aren't the only one. Another poster was expressing similar dread feelings yesterday in chat.

You can keep track of eq events here: http://www.iris.washington.edu/cgi-bin/seismon_events.pl?date=98/11/27 &lat=40.60N&lon=125.19W

You can read about predictions here: http://www.syzygyjob.com/Boards/

-- marsh (armstrng@sisqtel.net), November 23, 1999.

...and I hereby bequeath a raincoat to mushroom, in the event of future mudslinging, or mudwrestling in the Bok0room...

-- flora (***@__._), November 23, 1999.

Gerges: Mom always told me the safest way to gamble was to never bet more than I could afford to loose. Turned out to be very good advice.

That being said, I've just checked and have $3.52 in spare change in my pocket that would be no great loss if it turns out you were right.

The entire west coast of the US is highly active so a 5.0+ is always a possibility.

However, what I really wanted to know was if any of the geologists who monitor this region have issued alerts?

Are any of the region's great volcanos (Mt Hood, Shasta, Rainier, Lassen Peak, et al.) showing any rumblings?

Or, to your knowledge, is anyone's pet acting strangely - smoking a pipe, calling out for pizza, or storing Alpo in 5-gallon buckets?

-- Arnie Rimmer (Arnie_Rimmer@usa.net), November 23, 1999.

Arnie & All,

This is at least the 4th thread of this type form this character. To debunk a 'meme' by floating another 'meme' takes quite a leap of logic.

It might be fun to post links to C. Gerges greatest hits, but alas I don't have them flagged. If someone finds the first one about the western US being wiped out - I could use it. I think half my last will & testament is on it.

Of course people in the west are negligent if they are not prepped for the possibilties. You'd be better off reading the recommendations from the Calif OES pages than paying any mind to this 'goofus', endearing as 'she' is.

-- flora (***@__._), November 23, 1999.

Yes, Arnie, Mt. Hood is rumbling. Also on iris you can see all along subduction zone, quakes in last 2 weeks.

Look here for small recent Mt. Hood quake:

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), November 23, 1999.

Here's a Bible code matrix that may have predicted the Taiwan earthquake on 09/21/99. There are also several good Y2K matrices if you go back to the Bible code menu. Particularly scary is the series on Judgment day for America. Numbers 7 holds a highly disproportionate number of coded terms that relate to a worst case scenario for Y2K.


-- Slobby Don (slobbydon@hotmail.com), November 23, 1999.

-- flora,

Goofus!?! Surely, you still have your dictionary and can come up with something more demeaning than that? Flora, I wish you a Happy Thanksgiving, despite yourself.

-- C. Gerges (quake@study.sci), November 23, 1999.

Can't find the first one, but here's another of the picks to click al a Gerges:


-- flora (***@__._), November 23, 1999.

And the hits just keep on comin':


Get a job C. Gerges, or is this your job?

-- flora (***@__._), November 23, 1999.

So by your wishes you must be narrowing you prediction to sometime after turkey day?

You must have a link to your first one, eh?

Happy Thanksgiving to you too. Won't you miss me after the Big Shake?

-- flora (***@__._), November 23, 1999.


I predict you'll survive. You'll have that girlish figure back that you thought you had lost forever, by this time next year, due to all the walking you will be doing, all the way to Southeastern Wyoming.

-- C. Gerges (quake@study.sci), November 23, 1999.


I'm waiting

-- Randers (coyotecanyon@hotmail.com), November 23, 1999.

I can only hope that the 'waif' look will still be 'in'.

Brave C. Gerges, fighting FUD with FUD.

-- flora (***@__._), November 23, 1999.

At 4:47 this Sunday, there will be an earthquake of magnitude 6.57892 epicentered at Cairo IL. So it is written, but I forget where.

-- (nostradoomus@tut.tut), November 23, 1999.

I don't know about this coming Sunday but I would not at all be surprised to see one any time between Thanksgiving and Xmas. I have had my own feelings and two folks have mentioed to me that they felt one was coming soon. Both of these folks are pretty tuned in and brought it up themselves, independently for no particular reason.

Both predicted that it would be centered in the ocean of the Nor cal coast. In which case typhoons are as big a danger as the quake itself.

In any event here in the Pacific northwest people should always be prepared for quakes.

-- River Soma (riversoma@aol.com), November 23, 1999.


Take that $100 and spend it on preps. I don't make wagers, and wouldn't want to take your money on a sure thing. "A fool and their money are soon parted.."


Thanks for the free publicity, sorry I no compredenda di FUD.

-- C. Gerges (quake@study.sci), November 23, 1999.

Come on now River,

You're all messin' with me. Typhoons?!

Come up with the thread CG, at least I think we had some decent Tsunami links on it.

Prepare, prepare, prepare.

Water, water, water.


But watch the fuzzy thinking.

-- flora (***@__._), November 23, 1999.

As a person that lives in a vulerable area of the west coast there are a few comment I would like to make

a. you can't predict earthquakes.

b. there have been tons of predictions made on this forum that were wrong.

c. There are lots of earthquakes on the coast.

d. a level 5 is a BITR and hardly a consern even if it hits a populated center.

e. We are getting a 9+ earthquake in the relative near future (earth wise) and this is a fact due to repeating geological finds. It could happen now or in a couple of hundred years but it is comming.

While the consern is comforting the reality is not. You should choose your subject matter a bit better. A 5 earthquake is almost boring.

Try meteorites :o)

-- Brian (imager@home.com), November 23, 1999.

I don't do links. What you seek is somewhere in the awareness category and/or fallback planning...in a galaxy far, far, away.

-- C. Gerges (quake@study.sci), November 23, 1999.

Watch the cats and dogs. For a low tech meter look at the missing pet ads in the local paper. If this number goes way up those dumn animals have beat it to safety. They sometimes know more than we do, then again when I look around they always know more than some of us.

-- squid (Itsdark@down.here), November 23, 1999.


You seem like an intelligent fellow, but it is "concern", O.K.?

A 5 may be a BITR unless of course you happen to be cruising down scenic HWY 1 and a house on stilts overlooking the ocean comes sliding into your convertible, causing you and said vehicle to get knocked off of highway into scenic ocean, dying in a "smashing way."

Don't believe the "spin meisters" about not being able to predict earthquakes. TPTB have the technological resources, but from a logistical point of view, it would be futile indeed to warn anywhere from 500,000 to 25 million people of an impending disaster coming their way.

As far as your 9+ scenario, yeah, it's going to happen, but not for at least 30+ years. And that is a guess. To be completely honest here, someday all of the continents will shift and relocate, and the land part of the earth will be one continent again. There is scientific proof that this is how the earth was at one time, and it will return to this state someday again, leaving a whole lot of ocean. Of course, in doing so, the entire earth will shift from its current axis and alignment. In doing so, over one third of the people and animals on the earth will die.

However, on the plus side, once the earth shifts, this will affect the climate zones throughout the world, creating a very comfortable climate zone, with adequate rainfall, basically eliminating weather extremes like deserts and tundras. So, don't worry, be happy.

-- Silence (quaker@lways.talk), November 23, 1999.

My darling little troll,

Are you imlpying that it was pitched?

Enquiring minds, you know.

-- flora (***@__._), November 23, 1999.


She called me "darling" ;-)

-- Silence (quaker@lways.talk), November 23, 1999.

Well, for what it's worth,

Been a little nervous about a possible 8.4 repeat of the 1811 & 1812 series that rocked the entire Eastern U.S. from the NMSZ (New Madrid Seismic Zone).

Watching the cats, dogs and chickens. So far only the cows have been acting wierd. No feelable rumblers in the past several days, but a bridge near here just suddenly collapsed for no explicable reason.

Trying to sort coyote harrasment of bovines from animals getting spooked over possible tremors, though we supposedly get over 20 a month out here..

So far I think I'm the only animal that's spooked.

Let's hope so.

Like I don't already have enough to worry about, but the cool thing is whether it's Y2K or a quake....preps are the same. I'm ready.....'cept if a fissure opens up and swallows the ol' homestead here...and if we experience sandblows and liquefacion.

Better I suppose to deal with that than a couplea thousand hungry marauders hell-bent on my stash.

-- INVAR (gundark@sw.net), November 23, 1999.


Careful there, your al-d alter ego is bleeding through.

-- CG Jung (_@the.couch), November 23, 1999.


OK get me going on spelling :o) I am the worlds worst speller.

>As far as your 9+ scenario, yeah, it's going to happen, but not for at least 30+ years.

The chances of it happening in within 100 yrs.

>to be completely honest here, someday all of the continents will >shift and relocate, and the land part of the earth will be one >continent again.

Oh is that right :o) likely in a billion years. But then anything can happen. Do you have a source that mentions this?

>here is scientific proof that this is how the >earth was at one time, and it will return to this state someday >again, leaving a whole lot of ocean. Of course, in doing so, >the entire earth will shift from its current axis and alignment. >In doing so, over one third of the people and animals on the earth will die.

Well it is true that the earth shifts because of magnetic "switches" found on the bottom of the Atlantic ocean. This happening during the stay of the human race on the planet would be very slim to nil.

Some say Nemisis is involved with this (oh and lets see if you know what I am talking about)

As far as the "doomer" mentality goes man will no doubt wipe himself out before your imaginitive senerio developes.

> However, on the plus side, once the earth shifts, this will >affect the climate zones throughout the world, creating a very >comfortable climate zone, with adequate rainfall, basically >eliminating weather extremes like deserts and tundras

My someone has been reading Worlds in Collision?

I wouldn't leave your day job Silence.

-- Brian (imager@home.com), November 23, 1999.


To quote Mr. Ed's cover page..."Y2K-41 days: Fear and loathing in Y2K land." Brian, chill out. Just because something is completely out of your paradigm doesn't mean it is impossible.

A billion years??? I'm surprised you spelled that correct. (Just kidding) Nemesis...wasn't that the Greek goddess of retributive justice. Well Brian, the earth going back to its original order and 1/3 of the planet dying has nothing to do with your Nemesis.

A word...don't get into a duel of wits unarmed...you'll lose. Now chill out with the "fear and loathing."

-- Silence (quaker@lways.talk), November 23, 1999.

Well Brian, the earth going back to its original order and 1/3 of the planet dying has nothing to do with your Nemesis.

A word...don't get into a duel of wits unarmed...you'll lose. Now chill out with the "fear and loathing."

-- Silence (quaker@lways.talk), November 23, 1999.

:o) For one thing I am not a "doomer" and Ed can write what he wants.

Nemisis is a dark star theory that astronomers have been toying around with to explain Cyclic events in earths history. Still speculative.

As far as a duel of wits my humor is as bad as my spelling so you will win. You are a funny guy *VBG*

But in the big picture you have to admit that the likelyhood of humans being on the planet turing a "tip" would be slim. Also the fact that an earthquake is expected at anytime on the west coast is no new news. Whether the quake hits a populated area (and there aren't many of those up here) is pure speculation.

It is far more likely that more folks will be effected by car accidents than a earthquake on sunday. A matter of fact I expect on any given day accidents will hurt more folk than Y2K will.

-- Brian (imager@home.com), November 23, 1999.

INVAR, aren't you from Ky?

-- Linda Arnold (adahi@muhlon.com), November 23, 1999.


In trying to find out more about your reference to Worlds in Collision, I turned up a link that is right up C. Gerges' alley:


C. Gerges,

I understand that you don't do links, but if I can cut & paste - I'm sure you can too.

-- flora (***@__._), November 23, 1999.


good catch and an interesting read. What a flash back from my yute.

 Worlds in collision

-- Brian (imager@home.com), November 23, 1999.


Do you know how the 1811 earthquake affected the New Orleans area? I know it caused the Mississippi River to change its course, but I never did hear anything about New Orleans.

-- Scarlett (creolady@aol.com), November 23, 1999.

Brian: Don't dismiss Velikovsky too quickly. Much of our recent data on Venus comfirms many of his assertions, and pose very puzzling questions. The situation is very anomolous. I don't have time right now, but I,ll try and dredge up some interesting references for you.


-- Pinkrock (aphotonboy@aol.com), November 23, 1999.

BTW back to the second subject:

It AIN'T TYPHOON (just a westPac huricane) but TSUNAMI that would be the concern.


-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), November 23, 1999.

Link to (I believe the first post)

Western Half of thee US need not worry


-- Maggie (aaa@aaa.com), November 23, 1999.


Are you still exspecting an 8 mag earthquake,by the end of November,with major damage to California and Utah? I don't understand your post on a 5 mag earthquake,when an 8 mag is so much worse.Would you explain?

-- Maggie (aaa@aaa.com), November 23, 1999.


Thanks for turning it up!

I doubt ol' CG will return here. 'She' might still be out back tinkering with that darn Tesla coil.

-- flora (***@__._), November 23, 1999.

Flora,your welcome.I had it saved on my browser favorites.Wanted to keep it,to refer back to.

-- Maggie (aaa@aaa.com), November 24, 1999.


Am I from Kentucky?....No. I herald from the great middle-class concrete jungle of Suburbia known as The NW Suburbs of Chicago.

That is until a year and a half ago when we bugged-out to the serene and normally lush green country hills of The Bluegrass State....where I am kicking myself for not moving out here sooner. I knew I'd need at minimum a year to settle-in and become established. Also, Cows make great neighbors.


From what I've recently learned about the NMSZ and the great quakes of 1811-1812 was that they were the stongest ever recorded on the continental U.S.. An estimated 8.4 -8.6 on the Richter scale. The faults in the deep rock are of a deeper and harder nature than the faults out West. The 1800's quakes Shook the whole Eastern half of the sparsely populated U.S. Bells rang in Boston from the tremors and the Mississippi ran backwards. The ground liquefied into myriad sandblows of boiling groundwater and sulphur and cave-ins created the Reelfoot Lake basin. I don't have any info on New Orleans at the time of that quake.

But if the same series of 8 point quakes that the NMSZ faults normally produce were to snap like they did in 1811-12, Officials from the USGS have suggested Memphis, St. Louis and Paducah would be levelled and burnt to the ground. The reservoir and dam structure on the Tennessee River System would collapse, flooding the Ohio and Mississippi rivers and washing away entire towns. Major to catastrophic damage would be seen as far away as Chicago and Indianapolis to the North, and Nashville and Birmingham to the South. Damage could be seen as far away as Canada some suggested. They cite the deep rock and nature of the faults here They suggest that the P waves (explosive shocks?) from the quake would be like a bomb going off underground and that the S waves would be catastrophic (Side to side swayers and undulators). They talked about liquefacion and sand blows that could conceivably turn entire regions into boiling masses of hot groundwater and gas creating a type of quicksand that could consume whole communities.

This of course blows any simple F-4 Tornadoes I might have been chasing in Will County.

They suggest that if we had a repeat of 1811-12, it would be the greatest natural disaster this nation has ever experienced. They suggested it would take decades to restore what had been lost in such an event.

But I suppose a little-old manmade event of shortcuts in foundational code that runs our world just might shake our society apart much worse than a little-old earthquake in the Heartland.

But to answer your question, if Boston had big iron bells being rung by a quake in Missouri, then I think you can expect some violent shaking in N'awlans. And it won't be Mardi Gras revellers.

-- INVAR (gundark@sw.net), November 24, 1999.

If this was already posted on this thread, I missed it. The window of opportunity supposedly is for Nov. 21-28, and lists several possibilities and percentages .... Go to www.syzygyjob.com

-- (normally@ease.notnow), November 24, 1999.


What problems,due to the New Madrid fault,would the S.W. part of Missouri have?

-- Maggie (aaa@aaa.com), November 24, 1999.


Thanks for your in-depth response. I would imagine our biggest problems would be from the Mississippi River flooding. We are below sea level and only protected by a series of levees. So, all I have to worry about is y2k, biological warfare, nuclear warfare, earthquakes, and on and on and on. Oh, well, let's all say some extra prayers during Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving!

-- Scarlett (creolady@aol.com), November 24, 1999.

Thank you Scarlett. Have a most joyous Thanksgiving with your family as well. We have MUCH to be thankful for, not the least being the Almighty keeping the hedge of protection about-us and forestalling the kind of worrisome catastrophes it appears we are facing.


S.W. Missouri? Lot's of shakin', a little tenderizin', and down yer town goes. Possible liquefacion of the ground there and in Arkansas. USGS folks even speculated that a major quake could have an Epicenter in N.E. Arkansas that triggers the main fault in Missouri. Would not be pretty anywhere in the Midwest. I don't think any of our buildings and bridges are built to withstand even a moderate quake like they are in California.

I guess all I know is that if an earthquake here in the heartland can ring giant heavy churchbells in Boston, and collapse a giant region into a lake, I imagine the damage to our modern buildings here would be unbelievable. Just think about all the gas and oil pipelines that run through the Midwest, all the phone lines, all the bridges that connect us together, all the nuke and chemical plants, take those out of action and you have the same situation as a Y2K worst-case- scenario, except for the burning rubble and buried victims. Keep that in mind if you wonder what might portend a big quake on the NMSZ.

Like we don't have enought to worry about.

But like David, I do fear the wrath of man more than the wrath of God. Man is much more cruel.

-- INVAR (gundark@sw.net), November 24, 1999.

Is this for real? Predicting a 5 earthquake on the west coast is about as prescient as predicting rain in Oregon!

-- Ralph Kramden (and@awayWeGo.com), November 24, 1999.

Thanks Invar for answering my question.I have read alittle on the major quake in 1811/1812,the only info I got was about the local damage and the after effects from there towards the East and North.

I have lived half my life in Missouri and the other half in California.I remember in grade school the light fixtures swaying in the lunch room,when I lived in the bay area.I had lived close to Northridge,Ca. when the Earthquake happened 11/17/1994.It scared me enough that I will never go back to California to live.My brother lives in Hawaii and wanted me to move there to be with him and his family,I laughed ,because they have volcano's.My son called and asked me to move back to Missouri and that sounded safe.After I was here a bit I remembered about the New Madrid fault,but wasn't too concerned at the time because it happeded so long ago and I thought it wouldn't be a problem.Now I am concered,but not going to worry day and night over it like I did when I lived in Southern California.I live in a small town,close to alot of farms and cows,so I guess you could say,I'm a pretty happy camper.

-- Maggie (aaa@aaa.com), November 24, 1999.

James O. Berkland, Syzygy Geologist has been very successful in predicting quakes around the world. I listen to him.....and his newletter is great, full of history and the present. Ed Dames left California after remote viewing something horrible......I am still here. One more disaster and I am out of here if I can walk....Anybody have one of those Meaning of Dreams books out there? I've been dreaming about the water in the ocean going way out, big sand beaches then it all comes in and covers the land big time...this place in the dream has been reoccuring for as long as I can remember. Does anyone know the meaning of this dream? I was hoping it would mean something better than a wet dream and devastation. Show me the way

-- Marilyn (Me@MarilynEllis.com), November 25, 1999.

Just a few nights ago,I had a talk with my girlfriend in California about dreams.She said if you have a reoccuring dream it could be important.This is just so weird,because we also talked about water in a dream,she said if the water was dirty/muddy it wasn't good.I wish I could tell you more,sorry.Maybe when I talk with her again next week,I will ask her about your dream.If I see you post again,I will let you know what she said.

-- Maggie (aaa@aaa.com), November 25, 1999.

Another pointless prediction bites the dust.

I would like to be able to predict that we will not see any more pointless predictions here, but that may be too much to hope for. ;-)


-- Jerry B (skeptic76@erols.com), November 29, 1999.

Kinda anticlimactic, huh.

{Jerry, where've you been hiding?}

-- flora (***@__._), November 29, 1999.


Hi! Lately, I've mostly been lurking, waiting, and watching. :-)


-- Jerry B (skeptic76@erols.com), November 29, 1999.

Don't doubt me on this one. I haven't been wrong yet.

Gee Diane, your so cute when you get angry. :-)

-- C. Gerges (quake@study.sci), November 23, 1999

Jerry thanks for bring in this up.

No shakers in my neck of the woods. Ditch the idea of Earthquake prognostications.

C. Gerges

Another great waste of time and bandwidth.

-- Brian (imager@home.com), November 29, 1999.

Come on, guys; are you telling me you didn't feel the ground shake from all the chemtrails crashing down yesterday? Felt just like a 5.


-- Al K. Lloyd (all@ready.now), November 29, 1999.

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