NBC Y2K Movie: perfect strawman

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Well, folks, this movie was a dog's dog. The intention was to create an image which was easily ridiculed..and they succeeded marvelously. No one will do a thing differently on Monday other than haze anyone who is stupid enough to have taken it seriously. They are using the herd to keep the herd peaceful and quiet.

An interesting 'juxtaposition' was the slick commercials which suffocated the movie. The contrast was obvous. The 'reality' was in the commercials.

I'm sorry but I believe this is what was intended all along. Don't be surprised if you see one of two publicized incidents in which a 'stupid person panics'. This is also part of the show.

Back to sleep. If the public is willing to let Slick Willie continue in office as a known liar, thief and abuser, then they will be willing to be lead to slaughter as well. The slughter will begin in 40 days.

-- ..- (dit@dot.dash), November 22, 1999

Answers

Yes, good point, Y2K Pro -- I am very pleased to have all my panicking behind me, and be ready for what is coming. It's people that will panic when it's too late that concern me.

Moron.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.cum), November 22, 1999.

** spoiler alert ** If you still haven't rewound the tape and watched the movie, you might want to skip this one.

How unbelievable can you get! The hero goes into the nuclear containment building and visually inspects the reactor core? At 3500 Deg.? I don't think so. And I just loved their solution: blow something up.

Ugh!

-- Tim the Y2K nut (tmiley@yakko.cs.wmich.edu), November 22, 1999.


KOS,

I think Y2k Pro just made another of his Freudian slips and was referring to the folks over at his own home site, the debunky den. It was just a subconscious musing that was passing through his mind.

-- Gordon (gpconnolly@aol.com), November 22, 1999.


The intention was to create an image which was easily ridiculed..and they succeeded marvelously.

The intention was to make money and they probably did succeeded marvelously, due to all the hype and controversy surrounding the movie. NBC doesn't care if people prep or not, or if they GI or not. It makes no difference to them. They won't make any money out of it, so go get some supplies or stay home, it's all the same to NBC. Just as long as you watch the movie. They even made money because so many people watched it just to see how BAD it was. And NBC laughs all the way to the bank. What you do AFTER the movie is over is of no concern to them. They already got what they wanted.

-- (duh@duh.duh), November 22, 1999.


I don't think much will OBSERVABLY (to us, now) or immediately come of this movie being shown. Whether or not it will be seen thru the lens of history as being any kind of turning point, well, the jury is still out on that one. Other possibly useful mental models for contemplating the intended role that TPTB had in mind for this flick (presuming any motivation besides making bucks existed) was as the PR equivalent of a "controlled burn" or "intentional backfire" as these concepts are used in forest management.

Apt response, KOS. Almost makes me regret my suggestion to someone to take you up on one of your offers to mudwrestle, but that they should take care to A) add plenty of salt to the mud first, and B) to wear their genuine porcupine suit to the match. :)

my site: www.y2ksafeminnesota.com

-- MinnesotaSmith (y2ksafeminnesota@hotmail.com), November 22, 1999.



I would rather worry and be pleasantly surprized about something than not worry at all and be caught off-guard.

Hey, it works for me, whether it's submitting bids, taking care of the house, managing my finances. Of course, some people say I sweat too much over minor details, but I've found it's always the little things that come back to haunt you.

-- Tim (pixmo@pixelquest.com), November 22, 1999.


Dear duh, duh...duh,

I know you are fixated on media as a money machine, but think you need to recognize that POWER is the ultimate end, not money per se. As someone once said, 'After the first $100 million its not about money. Its about power'.

Why is it that Clinton has coopted hollywood and the press? Because they have power over perception. Today everything is about perception. Ergo, one must have media control or one is a target.

Its about power.

-- ..- (dit@dot.dash), November 22, 1999.


I know you are fixated on media as a money machine,

Because it is.

but think you need to recognize that POWER is the ultimate end, not money per se.

LOL. Money leads to power. It's pretty much the same thing. Whatever keeps them in fancy limos and high-priced hookers.

As someone once said, 'After the first $100 million its not about money. Its about power'.

I've never heard that expression, not that it matters.

Why is it that Clinton has coopted hollywood and the press? Because they have power over perception. Today everything is about perception. Ergo, one must have media control or one is a target.

Possibly true, but definitely irrelevant.

Its about power.

Yes, you said that. It's also about money. Lots of money. And NBC now has lots more, thanks to all of you who watched the movie.

-- (duh@duh.duh), November 22, 1999.


the movie was great. it showed people working together to fix problems not running for the hills like rats leaving a sinking ship. and the man with barbed wire and guns who dared to fire at a military officer even just a warning shot was shot himself. the military was there to protect the citizens but that guy because of his ramped up paranoia thought they were coming to git him.

-- anon (anon@anon.anon), November 22, 1999.

Thats because they made the guy look like a doomer asshole. Meanwhile, the heros dad had a huge stash of food and bottled water sitting on a table in his house, and all they did was pan by it at a high speed. He even felt the need to explain himself to his grand daughter, and say that he promised her dad he would "do it" (stock up).

It was lame.

-- C. Hill (pinionsmachine@hotmail.com), November 22, 1999.



Thats because they made the guy look like a doomer asshole.

He was a 'doomer asshole'. He pointed a gun at US military personel, who were there to HELP.

Meanwhile, the heros dad had a huge stash of food and bottled water sitting on a table in his house, and all they did was pan by it at a high speed. He even felt the need to explain himself to his grand daughter, and say that he promised her dad he would "do it" (stock up).

So your message is "don't stock up at all"? huh??? why would you say that? you don't think it is a good thing for people to be prepared for emegencies? I do. I guess that makes me the doomer, and you a polly.

It was lame.

-- C. Hill (pinionsmachine@hotmail.com), November 22, 1999.

Yes, it was....just like y2khysteria is LAME.

-- Please Leave Blank (noch@nce.spammer.bots), November 22, 1999.


He pointed his gun at people who were telling him what to do, and where to go. They were on HIS property, they cut the chain on his fence, thus they were BREAKING and ENTERING. IF they are proper authorities, then they NEED to show ID so as to establish who they are and what they are doing breaking into the property. That is the LAW. The government does not get to break the LAW just like the people do not have the same priveledge. How is that difficult to see?? Of course I see that people have to be able to THINK Rationally about it....

-- Brent James Bushardt (brentj@webt.com), November 22, 1999.

From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr (pic), near Monterey, California

I would have to go back and look again to be sure but my impression was that he did not point his gun at them, but only was carrying it pointed upward. His (dumb) warning shot was fired straight up when one of the men advanced after his verbal warning. For all the guy knew they could have been local militia. The whole idea of evacuating a million people to outside a ten mile radius inside twelve minutes was rediculous.

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage), November 23, 1999.


I realize that only free-thinkers will understand this, but I will try anyway.

In an emergency (of the magnitude portrayed in the movie), officials don't have time to hold the hand of every individual. They need to do what they need to do....and move on.

Flip that scenario on its head for a second. Pretend that the military guys decided to just leave the guy where he was.....and then he died from radiation poisioning. Who would be blamed? NOT THE Y2K Hoarder, thats for sure. The military would be "the bad guy" for "leaving innocent civilians behind to die".

Did any of you notice that everyone else that was warned about leaving just grabbed some stuff and....left? Like they were told? Did that HELP or HINDER the effort of evacuation? Think about what would have happened if 1 out of 5 people responded like the y2k hoarder. The military couldn't possibly make the rounds to help everyone if they wasted precious time trying to detail the situation to each individuals satisfaction.

I think I finally understand the mentality of those who have been trying to "debunk" y2k hype. How many people are taking in the same garbage info, day after day...until they are saturated by it? Then, just imagine a situation like that one in the movie. The y2k hoarder was probably convinced that the nuke threat was a "plot" to get him over to an "internment camp". No wonder he fired his gun (a WARNING SHOT is by nature a signal to others that you are about to FIRE AT THEM, and should take you seriously.)

Hope some of this sinks in.

-- Please Leave Blank (none@NO.way), November 23, 1999.


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