REPOST- What is the name of the force that can disrupt power grids/microwave/radios/etc? : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread

I don't know why the other post doesn't work! I get shut out too.

What is the name of the force that can disrupt power grids/radios/ microwaves etc? Something like electromagnetic pulse?

I haven't been able to find the other threads on this topic.

-- mmmm (, November 21, 1999


Thank you, mmmm@mmmm, for reposting. I was starting to worry that I'd finally done something horrid to my computer.

-- Casey DeFranco (, November 21, 1999.

The answer was Electro Magnetic Pulse (EMP). From a nuke point of view, these would be the first kinds of bombs that would be dropped since they would disrupt communications.


-- Todd Detzel (, November 21, 1999.

Here's one of them:

Question: How will I (we) know the difference between Y2K and an high-altitude EMP blast ???

-- harl (harlanquin@aol.hell), November 21, 1999.

Harvested from the previous thread, hope they all format OK:

what is the name of the force that can disrupt radios/power grids/microwaves/etc? : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- What is the name of the force that can disrupt the power grid/radios/microwaves/ etc? Something like electromagnetic pulse??? There have been some previous threads on this that I can't find.

-- mmmm (, November 21, 1999 Answers You were correct, EMP, Electro-Magnetic Pulse

-- Billy-Boy (, November 21, 1999.

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Electromagnetic pulse is exactly what that is, mmmm.

-- kritter (, November 21, 1999.

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The Dark Side

-- Use (The@Force.Luke), November 21, 1999.

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You are correct - it is EMP and can be generated via a nuclear device exploded in the atmosphere or via a Marx Generator connected to a suitable electrode configuration. "Hardened" electronics can survive an EMP and several Weapons Labs (read Los Alamos Nat Lab, China Lake, and Sandia Nat Labs) have been working on solutions to ensuring that military installations and airplanes survive such a threat.

-- william holst (, November 21, 1999.

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Realistically, what could an individual protect and how?

-- Mumsie (, November 21, 1999.

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To prevent damage to electronics from EMP is pretty easy. Just build a Faraday cage and stick all your electronics within it. A Faraday cage is basically a metal box that is very well grounded. Even sheet tin or aluminum will work. You cannot connect any external power source, or antenna to the stuff inside, so forget about using the equipment stashed inside the cage.

I have made a small Faraday cage, and have stashed several cheap SW radios, and hand held transceivers. An old TV, and an Apple Newton.

But I'm not paranoid or anything.


-- Jollyprez (, November 21, 1999.

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Well, the solution that would ensure complete protection for your home and electronics would require the construction of a "Faraday Cage". This pretty much impractical as it would require the construction of a room that employs two bronze screens within the outer walls - and properly terminated to the earth ground. Moreover, all of your power would have to be passed through an isolation transformer as the power lines would serve to pick up the EMP and transmit into your house like an antenna. I can not think of any cheap soln off hand - perhaps invest in a lifestyle that does not involve sensitive electronics (i.e., pre-70s car, no tv or stereo, microwave).

-- william holst (, November 21, 1999.

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Tinfoil...think tinfoil!!

Wrap electronics in several layers of Aluminum foil, taking care that the seams of the first layer are centered on the center of the next layer. Line cords and cables should be completely wrapped around the equipment before you apply the tinfoil.

That takes care of the Electrostatic component. Next, take the Tinfoil package and place it in a 55 gallon STEEL drum with a tightly fitting STEEL cover. Get 0000 size STEEL (NOT Stainless) wool and place it over the crack between the cover of the drum and the drum itself, and secure that with heavy duty duct tape. Next, scrape the paint off around the bottom of the drum, and wrap with several turns heavy duty copper wire, the heaver the better. GROUND the other end to a COLD water METAL pipe as it emerges from the ground. (Never ground to GAS or HOT water pipes)

What you have just done is create a classic Faraday Cage with the TINFOIL, as well as a Magnetic shield with the steel drum steel wool combo, and you have grounded the whole shebang.

The electronics inside should survive.

BTW, I hope the wedding is still on, and that the couple are happy together. Give them our regards.

-- K. Stevens (kstevens@ It's ALL going away in, November 21, 1999.

-- Chuck, a night driver (, November 21, 1999.

Thanks for all the info - been worried about keeping my radio equipment safe if needed.

-- mmmm (, November 22, 1999.

Here is a web page from Las Vegas that predicts nuclear war in December. (See all of column two)

-- Slobby Don (, November 22, 1999.

In addition to man made EMP, there is also a threat from nature

CME Corona Mass Ejection.

Fancy words for a solar flare. The sun is going to the peak activity of its 11 year cycle around May. CME interacting with the Earth's magnetic field can cause many things

The Northern Lights are pretty, but what is dangerous to us is the effect on the power grid. The power lines act as very long antennas and when the Solar generated energy hits them it can cause major trouble, overloads and equipment malfunctions.

Also any comm sats that are not "hardened" may be damaged by excessive solar electo-magnetic radiation. The ionosphere which is used for AM and short wave radio may be damaged temporarily.

NOAA has a web site for Solar storm weather reports. Use Search

-- answerman (big bang@end.god), November 22, 1999.

Slobby Don,

If the dream or anything is affiliated with HWA forget it. I've got a newspaper from his group and the front page goes like this:

In line of authority:




The guy is/was a kook and not worth listening to. I know I was there and he was easily fooled by his thieving lawyer/evangelist?. Last I heard the Ambassador College/Church in Pasadena was still paying the lawyer and the exwife.

I was fooled for a while. They kicked me out after I discovered they were BS'ing their flock.

"GET OUT OF HERE!" said the [jackbooted] Pastor.

He almost fell out of his chair yelling at me.

"You dare to defy HWA?"

-- Mark Hillyard (, November 22, 1999.

Geez...the nuclear war in Dec. link is more of that bible code crap. Give it up!

-- Tim the Y2K nut (, November 22, 1999.

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