Ed is back

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Ed is back. He has updated his home page this morning and incuded a pointer to a new article.

For those who can't remember, his page is http://www.yourdon.com

jstanden@ucalgary.ca (real e-mail address_

-- Jim Standen (jstanden@ucalgary.ca), November 18, 1999


"Y2K Whistle-Blowers"


-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), November 18, 1999.


Just read your latest...want to share? I don't mean individuals or direct quotes, but could you give a briefing on what industries are most represented by your whistle blowers and how bad do they sound (are they whole whole sectors or just embedded problems or certain types of systems)? Or is it across the board? Do you have any guess if any of this will hit main stream media before the rollover? Thank you.

-- Valkyrie (anon@please.xnet), November 18, 1999.

Sooooooo?????? There is the salad and soup, but where are the meat and potatos?? WHAT ARE THE WHISTLE BLOWERS SAYING AND IN WHICH INDUSTRIES???????? Are we playing Paul Harvey here and we are going to get the "rest of the story" next week?


-- Taz (Tassie123@aol.com), November 18, 1999.

Ed seems to have left out embedded systems remediators who are not so much blowing the whistle, but tooting the horn. If our Y2K test results were leaked, the stocks of the portable generator vendors would plummet.

-- cl@sky.com (cl_sky@excite.com), November 18, 1999.

It sounds like a heads-up to L/R and Center; Jack & Jill and Corp. America too?

Give us the details!!!

Know one is willing to come up with names/dates/details.

Yourdon's Whistle Blowers.

North's CEO.

International Monitoring's 44pg SECRET Report.


[vent off]

Very best wishes to the GI's in the coming New Year!! (whew, that felt good)

-- enquiringminds (karlacalif@aol.com), November 18, 1999.

Hey cl,

You mean on the 0.00000001% of the total embedded systems that are being tested?

-- a (a@a.a), November 18, 1999.

Unfortunately we are probably going to have to wait for these things to play out.

There has been a lot of pressure applied "FROM THE VERY TOP" to say "we are compliant".

Overcoming the fear of retaliation is very difficult, unless an air-tight third party method is available.

-- snooze button (alarmclock_2000@yahoo.com), November 18, 1999.

1) Certainly, many organizations would resort to immediate attack, beginning with massive mudslinging at the whistle-blower...

2) I suspect that the really gloomy reports are deeply hidden...and only available to those sworn to secrecy. Still, a few will get out...

3) You have stored whistles as a part of your preparations, haven't you?

-- Mad Monk (madmonk@hawaiian.net), November 18, 1999.

The Computer World Article has already been posted at:


The Debunkers have already commented at:


Having said that, the subject of whistle-blowing is close to my heart. I'm married to a whistleblower. It was, and remains difficult.

Traditionally, these cases do not come to light until a government entity chooses to reveal charges against someone.

Why on earth would that happen prior to the rollover? The answer is: it wouldn't. There's no gain.

I think there may be validity in Tom Benjamin's take:

"Problems before 1/1/2000 will be reported as ANYTHING BUT Y2k problems. Problems after 1/1/2000 will ALL BE Y2k problems."

Dear Lord I will be glad when this is over.

Mr. Yourdon, if you indeed have reports of whistleblowers, would enlighten us on what you intend to do with them?


-- . (whistle@been.there), November 18, 1999.

International Monitoring's "secret " report.

-- Steve (hartsman@ticon.net), November 18, 1999.

Steve-- Buried in the International Monitoring Committees Senate Hearing Report On International Y2K Risk:

Institutional Banking

International Monitoring believes the threat to International Banking could pose the greatest Y2K risk. A separate 44-page section of the statement has been submitted that covers these risks.

At this point, we do not feel it is prudent to publicly discuss the detailed risk faced by international baking in a broad media forum such as the one before us today.

The Herstatt Risk (the worst of the five major risks discussed) must be the same report that was submitted to the senate, I never made the connection till now. I printed it out when I first saw it, just pulled it out, same length.

I don't understand what the cloak & dagger stuff was for if the information is available on-line?

Thanks for the "Brain LINK" Brian ;-)

-- Linkmybrain (karlacalif@aol.com), November 18, 1999.

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