OT -- Diane--- Don't forget tonights movie "After Shock"

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The movie will be aired tonight,it's about an earthquake (I think in N.Y.C.).

-- Maggie (aaa@aaa.com), November 14, 1999


Do you mean "EarthQuake in New York".

Its on now and it's awful. Its on FOX Family (formerly CBN).

This is some of the worst acting I have ever seen and awful, awful dialog. I cant believe I am watching it.

If you live or have been in NYC this is pathetic stuff.

-- tvguy (tvguy@thebox.com), November 14, 1999.

I dont believe it, there are TWO movies tonight:

On FOX Family there is "Earthquake in New York" made in 1998.

On CBS there is "Aftershock: Earthquake in New York" made in 1999.

DONT watch the FOX movie, its so bad my eyes have shut down.

-- tvguy (tvguy@thebox.com), November 14, 1999.

Right thanks!

(Keep those puppies on the east coast!)

Uh, just to make you NYC'ers feel even better... this is purely anecdotal...

When I was once consulting with SCE Southern California Edison, one of the guys in the department I associated with mentioned that SCE had some property in NYC somewhere around 14th street? (fuzzy memory), anywho, they were sinking some underground pilings to anchor a new intended high rise, when they apparently hit the top of a massive cavern. As I recall, he said it was about a mile long or more. Needless to say, SCE stopped construction and sold the property.

Again this is anecdotal, but it came from someone who hired me for projects, a person I respected and worked with for a couple years.

California may be shakey ground but is NYC on hollow ground?

Dicey. (Thinking of you pshannon!)


-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 14, 1999.

Diane, They dug 14th St. up a few years ago to redo the whole street. Indeed they found many mysterious things down there--like tracks for the original streetcars. Of course there is a subway that runs from 8th Avenue to the East River and beyond (or whatever). However, the main thing is that there are faults in NYC on both 14th and 125th Street. T'is true.

-- Mara (MaraWayne@aol.com), November 14, 1999.

Movie is lame to the max, though the special efx beat-out 75's Earthquake with Charlton Heston (bad acting in that one too).

Plausibility? Don't know. Are there any faults running through the Upper East Coast?

On the other hand, closer to home here, I'm sitting on the NMSZ (New Madrid Fault). I'm told the strongest continental earthquake in our history occured right here in 1811 and 1812. Apparently made the Mississippi run backwards, created Reelfoot Lake in Tennessee, shook Chicago and rang church bells as far away as Boston.

The bedrock here in the heartland is deeper and of a harder nature than in the West Coast, whose faults are more concentrated and in shallower bedrock they say. Officials here worry if we have a repeat of the Dec-Jan. 1811-1812 quakes here the devastation would be total in places like Memphis, St. Louis, Paducah and Carbondale, while heavy damage would be seen in Lexington, Louisville, Nashville, Indianapolis, and Springfield IL. Extensive damage would be seen as far away as Chicago and Cincinnatti - if, the massive quakes that created Reelfoot Lake were to ever happen again. It would be the greatest natural disaster this nation would ever see.

Not that we don't have enough to worry about already, and not that I'm fueling a panic - but since we're on the subject already - and we have a precedent set already, if you want to get a glimpse of what it would be like if we had a major shake here, I just picked up a new paperback called "8.4" by Peter Hernon. It poses the hypothetical scenario of what would happen if the New Madrid Fault snapped like it did in 1811 & 1812. Freaky thing for me is that the story takes place in my backyard! Wierd reading a fiction piece with the town and roads you drive on mentioned as anchor-points to the story!

Anyway, New Madrid I think has a higher probability of snapping than does Manhattan  and I'm talking earthquake terms here, not what may happen ala the Nike commercial.

Wonder if the Y2K movie next week will be just as sappy as this one is?

-- INVAR (gundark@sw.neet), November 14, 1999.


Hey we live over on top of that fault too in swampeast MO. My husband just read an article in the St. Louis Post that scientists were beginning to realize that there is more pressure building up on that fault than they formerly realized. I wish I'd read it myself-I could give you more info, but it was in the paper just this last week. There is a really, really good book out about the quakes of 1811-1812. It's called "The Earthquake America Forgot". If you live close you could get it at the New Madrid Museum. An interesting thing is that southeast Mo used to be completely covered by about a foot of water, because the quakes broke up all the rivers in the area. Then less than 100 years ago they drained all the swamps and discovered they had prime farmland. The quakes were horrible. They were felt as far away as Philadelphia, and they would have killed a lot of people if alot of people had lived there then. So we're making out preps for Y2k or earthquakes or tornados or whatever-Y2K has just made us more aware of potential for disasters in general.

-- soapie (sappie@swampeast.net), November 15, 1999.

Well, night #1 was "interesting."

All I can say is watching it on TeeVee is completely different from being "inside" the event.

(EQ-Vetran: Northridge 1994 about 7 miles from the "true" epicenter. It started with the sound of an explosion, then I was catapulted out of bed and aross the room).

I really feel for the people in Turkey right now. Also Taiwan.

Mother nature is seemingly... NOT pleased.

(Need to resort my earthquake kit...again... and stick it in a backpack this time. And add rope).


-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 15, 1999.

You might find Disused and Abandoned Stations interesting.

BTW, there was a quake in the area not too many years ago. My sister lived in Dobbs Ferry at the time, it woke her up and she thought the building was going to collapse on her.

-- Ron Schwarz (rs@clubvb.com.delete.this), November 15, 1999.

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