Our Government is heavily involved with de-populating the USA and the World. The white-washing of the Y2K danger is clear evidence of their gastly motives!

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For many years our Government through the FDA has covered up many Cancer cures, etc. etc. in order to de-populate the USA and the world.

Whenever a doctor like Dr.Stanislaw Burzynski from Texas, who cured many cancer victims with anti-neoplaston treatments, the FDA has mercilessly attacked doctors like him as quacks and put many doctors who continued their successful efforts to save their patients in prison!!

Anti-neoplaston is a proven cancer cure. This news should be the headline news all over the world. However it is not, which is clear evidence of FDA world de-population efforts!

Many doctors at this very moment are still doing time in prison for discovering a cancer cure!

Now this Y2K coverup is evidence our Government is highly involved in their effort in world de-population. Especially those who are at retirement age are considered useless citizens who will be very vulnerable to Y2K disruptions, because they will not be able to get their medicines they need to stay alive. Also those cancer patients who are living on "borrowed time" through the use of drugs and medicine will simply die without their prescribed drugs.

Cancer research has been the biggest hoax in American history. They do not want to find a Cancer cure! If they did, they would be out of a job!!!!


-- !!! (!!!@???.com), November 13, 1999


one way or another our population numbers must be lowered.A touchy- feely concept it's not,but it is something that sooner or later must be addressed.

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), November 13, 1999.

In the 1930's Dr. Raymond Rife discovered a Cancer cure. He was revered by his fellow doctors in the Cancer field, until our Government got wind of his accomplishments. His laboratory was torched and burned to the ground. He also was a victim of our beloved Government. He died a pauper. There are numerous stories like this that can be found on the internet!

Do we have a Government "for the people" and "by the people"?

Absolutely not! Y2K is clear evidence of that!

-- Kissable lips (kissablelips@aol.com), November 13, 1999.

Zoobie, I suggest you put your head on the chopping block first. We need some real hero's like you! Would you be willing to give up your life to a corrupt Government? You must be by the way you talk!

-- !!!??? (!!!@???.com), November 13, 1999.

The American Cancer Society, March of Dimes, etc., have been around for years and years. Take a look at the salaries of their executives, very little money trickles down to where the real need is. I agree, these "charities" are nothing but scams, especially the Red Cross.

-- bardou (bardou@ba,loney.com), November 13, 1999.

Of course, the other side of the coin, (the side you are viewing says "...in order to de-populate the USA and the world") may simply be money. Follow the money (which you suggest, but somehow do not believe). There's more money to be made treating cancer than curing it. Your logic is not based on logic, and you make connections out of spit and tinfoil.

Yes, it does "appear" as though the Y2K whitewash may in fact lead to a massive depopulation, and that there may even be some official "sanctioning" of this approach. (Read Algore's "Earth in the Balance" for a few hints.) However, I certainly don't think that the cancer thing is part of this. (again, follow the money) Suppression of Anti- neoplaston as a cancer cure is NOT clear evidence of FDA world de- population efforts. Stop creating false connections, there are enough REAL ones to go around.

-- (dot@dot.dot), November 13, 1999.

Al Gore and others have known about the coming molecular nano technology since before becoming Vice President. He already knows there will be an abundance of food for everyone and all poverty will be eliminated. The "Gobmint" keeps it quiet because molecular nano technology could scare some people and it isn't interested in irrational protests over advancement that cannot be stopped.

That doesn't mean other entities aren't going to use Y2K as a depopulation tool.

No one needs to depopulate anyone. Molecular nano technology is the rare "silver bullet" to come the global populations way.

-- Paula (chowbabe@pacbell.net), November 13, 1999.

I do believe that al bore, in a book that he wrote, stated that the world would be better off if a certain percentage of the population were to be lost- what percent i don't recall. Of course, how many kids did HE have? and is he proposing that any of HIS family terminate themselves for the good of the earth??

P.S. No- I am not advocating anything happen to Al or his loved ones- just in case the FBI or S.S. is reading this and thinks I mean otherwise......

-- farmer (hillsidefarm@drbs.com), November 13, 1999.

Wow you guys are fucking paranoid. I thought I was bad, but you guys take the cake. These are the same folks who brought us WACO, and Vietnam, and doezens of other high profile fuckups. I find it fascinating that anyone could attribute Hitleresque cunning to the machinations of the Clinton administration.

Which is not to say that I'm some wacked out pollyana when it comes to conspiracy. I think the Clinton body count has lot's of kills on it that are directly attributable to old Willy and his buds. However if you look at the second rate bumbling that has taken place in regard to the Chinese thing, it only takes a few minutes to figure out that this guy is not very good at clandestine ops.

Guys who are good at clandestine ops rarely make the papers for thier foibles....instead they either disappear or fade away. This guy's in every other day for something stupid. Cmon, inviting Triad leaders to the fucking white house? Are you kidding me? And then to attribute any kind of capabilities to AlGorithm the wooden enigma himself, you have got to be kidding?

Stop thinking that this is anything more than a typical "hide the bumble" story. This guy screwed up royal with Y2K. The leader of the free world blew it big time. By the time he realized how damn serious it was, he was neck deep in doo doo. Think about the implications of announcing to the world that we will be FUBAR on Jan 1 00. Why not hang a sign out saying, "Please Mr. Terrorist Badguy, stop by for drinks and some conversation at our upcomming National Infrastructure Failure Party. We'd love the opportunity to talk with you about those nifty suitcase nukes you've got going, and feel free to BYOA (bring your own Anthrax)."

Sorry for the rant, but you guys are leaking big time. Wake up, this is still America. I'm still proud to be an American, and God Damn it we may be somewhat fucked up right now, but I for one am on the side of good and refuse to believe that these bumbling idiots are plotting mass population cleansing. If and when chaos should hit, you'll find me helping out, not waiting to shoot some poor bastard just trying to follow orders to help people. Most of the dot.mils are pretty decent folk just like you and me.

-- Gordon (g_gecko_69@hotmail.com), November 13, 1999.

Cancer research has been the biggest hoax in American history. They do not want to find a Cancer cure! If they did, they would be out of a job!!!! DO NOT DONATE MONEY TO CANCER RESEARCH!!!

This is the hugest piece of bulls**t I have ever seen on this forum.

I watched my grandfather die a slow death of prostate cancer. When I was a kid my Mom had breast cancer. The disease has placed a huge strain on my family and millions of others. I am now working all hours of the day and night to try to find a cure for cancer that is both humane and non-toxic. I have no interest in prolonging the fight while people suffer. If we succeed, there are thousands of other interesting biological questions that can be researched for hundreds of years; we are scientists and we simply do what we do to understand how things work. And by the way, the vast majority of us are NOT well paid and have to struggle to keep our labs afloat in cutthroat competition with other labs for scarce NIH (public) and ACS (private) money.

If you cared, have several pretty good leads for new cancer tx, too. One seeks to eradicate the tumor by blocking the signals from PI3K. The other is to block tissue-specific glucose transporter systems. There are many other approaches, some of which may be even more effective. The science has gotten phenomenally better since the early days, many years ago. If you had any idea of what you were talking about, you would take the time to understand what these "evil scientists" were doing. Please take your ignorant drivel back where it came from, and don't come back until you have a clue about what you are talking about!

-- coprolith (coprolith@fakemail.com), November 13, 1999.

"The United Nations goal is to reduce population selectively by encouraging abortion, forced sterilization, and control human reproduction, and regards two- thirds of the human population as excess baggage, with 350,000 people to be eliminated per day." - Jacques Cousteau, UNESCO Courier, November 1991.

-- John Whitley (jwhitley@inforamp.net), November 13, 1999.


I don't think these ninnies really mean it. They're just keeping in practice so their ability to "understand" the y2k threat won't tarnish over the weekend.

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), November 13, 1999.

Zoobie, Why not volunteer to be the first sacriface in the effort to assist in depopulation.Many of your comments lead me to believe that you would be an excellent candidate for sacrifacial gleening, So how about voluntering!

-- H fats kissinger (draconionsolutions@uselesseaters.com), November 13, 1999.

Even the rich die from cancer, so much for buying life and a cure.

-- bardou (bardou@baloney.com), November 13, 1999.

Paula and other "starry-eyes". Nanotechnology will be the end of the human race. You worried now about biological and chemical warfare (you should be) -- nanotechnology will raise the ability to create "mischief" by orders of magnitude.

BTW -- Even if there was a "silver bullet" to allow the feeding and prosperity of 6 billion (present population) or 60 billion, do you really want to live in a world where there are no beaches where you can get to the water without having to tramp around hundreds of beached whales (fat humans), or where every inch of meadow in a "national park" is covered by tents with thousands of screaming kids and juvenile delinquents in training running around...?

-- A (A@AisA.com), November 13, 1999.

"Never attribute to conspiracy that which can be explained by human stupidity"

-- a (a@a.a), November 13, 1999.


From your post I guess you have no children, have had your reproduction process cut from your body and are at the front of the line to yield your life to cut the population numbers huh?

Don't be a hypocrite and spout your garbage unless you are willing to make the sacrifice yourself.

Actually the world is NOT over populated. It does have distribution problems at the present time. If we use our God given wisdom and, stop being greedy then we can work this out without killing our neighbors.

And NO in case someone thinks to call me a socialist, I am very much for free enterprise and private ownership. I do not think the government should take from those who have and give to those who have not. I do think our society as a whole has become very greedy and needs to rethink what is really important and in doing so will come to the conclusion that always getting more, more, more for me, me, me is much less rewarding than helping another reach their potential and all of us becoming better off as a result.

If Y2K is middle bad to worse case, then I am hopeful that it will help give birth to smaller communities. Sure worse case would take a longer stuggle to get there but it can still be done. The knowledge is here and will not be lost forever maybe just slowed a bit.

Each person will nurture the community then each community will be as strong as the effort each produces combined. Each person will be important to the survival of the community and each will see a direct result of their efforts. If this happens each should be more willing to produce at least their share, if not more, to make their communities position stronger in the world.

Most of the cities of the world have become much to big and have no "community " left in them. They are to big and are not organized to sustain the amount of population they have in them. This is one big reason they will die if the lights do go out. Just as the old Roman style city was not very productive and useful for our grandparents so they built anew, so today with our technology and population needs our world has out grown the cities that our parents built. Our parents needed large factories for their industrial revolution so now it seems it is time for another revolution to birth technology cities. If the grid stays up we can each have more than we need using technology as our servant, working less hours and using less manual labor. The vast amount of our technology is not a curse, we have just been ignorant in how we have distributed and used it. We need to use wisdom, decide to each go forth contribute a effort to create new communities/cities using to full advantage our new technologies not living in the past and continuing to "putout fires" trying to keep the old corpses alive.

Some sacrifice will have to be made, money of some will have to be set at risk to build the communities but it does not have to be sacrifice in ---human lives OR freedom. We need new entrepreneurs with vision to step forth and show us to the way it can be done not whine that we need to kill off our neighbors so we can continue to live in the past. And yes to those like me who prefer the country there will still be countryside that you and I can live in :-) food and animals will still have to be tended.


-- Onebyone (susanwater@excite.com), November 13, 1999.

>> [...] the FDA has covered up many Cancer cures, etc. etc. in order to de-populate the USA and the world. <<

If so, then they are going about it all wrong! To depopulate the world you'd want something like the bubonic plague, or worse. Highly contagious disease with an extremely high fatality rate. Preferably airborne.

Just waiting around for a cancer to start and then not curing it is VERY INEFFICIENT in terms of depopulation. These conspirators need to get a clue. At the current rate of depopulation, we're GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION!!! REALLY RAPIDLY!!!

These depopulation conspirators are regular Keystone Kops for all the effect they're having. Smallpox was recently eradicated, for heavens sake! Where WERE these guys????

-- Brian McLaughlin (brianm@ims.com), November 14, 1999.

Hey,I'm not the one squeezing out babies,I don't know what "chopping block" you're talking about but if something isn't done to achieve 0% pop growth we'll soon be drownding in our own feces.My death or your death won't matter,it's the masses having four five or six children.Overburdan an ecosystem and you get species die back.Nobody said you had to like it.

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), November 15, 1999.

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