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Ok I tried before but the people who looked thought it was stupid. I have since really looked into this because first these people are giving the plans for free. Also it costs suposedly about 30 bucks to try it (getting the parts) You can use an engine that doesn't run very well to try it and I even think I can do it and I'm a girl. Anyway do what you want with this. I'm going to try it anyway.

-- ok (ok@try.again), November 05, 1999


What on earth are you rattling on about? You have given no link, no verbage on the "plans." Gather your thoughts, focus, articulate.... Spit it out in Mommy's hand.....

-- anon (anon@anon.calm), November 05, 1999.

You people are to mean and stupid to try to help. The address is

-- ok (ok@try.again), November 05, 1999.

This thing still needs refined hydrocarbons to run. It is essentially a "Coleman lantern style gas generator" set up to produce gasseous fuel from liquid fuel.

If you like to tinker, go ahead. It will probably run with lots of coaxing, and will be subject to fouling and fuel quality problems.

The exhaust from an engine running like this will be particularly noxious.

There are also plans available to make a new car run on a wood burning stove. Did you see Mad Max?

-- Save Yourmoney (SmellslikeBS@thissite.not), November 05, 1999.

Yes, I think you should try it.

While I'm doubtful of Paul's claims (it seems a bit too good to be true and I wonder about that "magnetic north" business) there may be something in it.

The principle looks a bit like the Coleman gas generator principle mentioned earlier. Petromax uses the same thing in their lanterns and it seems to work for them.

As to being any "step change improvement" in efficiency or alternate fuels usage - I doubt it. The fuel only contains so much energy and without some thermodynamic basis for improvement, there is likely not to be any. While Paul claims up to 65 mpg with an automobile engine, by his own admission it was difficult to achieve. (I know from experience with Volks Diesels that when you get above 50 mpg, small things can affect apparent mileage quite a bit.)

Lindsay Publications has a book on "Producer Gas for Motor Vehicles" which is a reprint of a WWII era book on the principles and descriptions of commercially available units at that time. Run your car on wood or coal. See

Have fun and let us know what you find.

-- Joe (, November 05, 1999.

I understand that the Japanese ran cars on charcoal during the latter years of WW II...

-- Mad Monk (, November 05, 1999.

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