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WARS AND RUMORS OF WARS
The new 2-against-1 arms race
Russia, China team up against U.S.
with American technology



By Charles Smith
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

Congressional officials are concerned that Russia and China are teaming up against the United States in a new arms race -- with missiles employing American technology and funding provided by the Clinton administration.

According to the China expert for Rep. Christopher Cox, R-Calif., Russia is selling the new Zvezda KH-31 missile to the Chinese military. Yet, against bi-partisan congressional opposition, the Clinton administration is financing the Russian military -- at the expense of American defense jobs -- by buying the same Russian missile to serve as a target drone for the U.S. Navy.

"The Russian KH-31 air-to-surface attack missile is being sold to China," said Richard Fisher, former member of the American Enterprise Institute, now working for Cox. "The Chinese appear to have backed down from a co-production deal on the KH-31," Fisher told WorldNetDaily. "They are making a flat-out buy (of missiles) from Zvezda."

Built in 1988 by the Zvezda-Strela design bureau for the former Soviet Union, the U.S. Navy test-fired four of the ramjet-powered, titanium cruise KH-31 missiles in 1997. U.S. defense contractor Boeing announced this year an agreement between Russia and the U.S. Navy to purchase up to 100 KH-31s for use as target drones.

"The KH-31P was designed by Russia to counter the radar of the Patriot surface-to-air missile, which Taiwan has already purchased, and the U.S. Aegis radar that Taipei would like to acquire," wrote Fisher in a recent defense report.

Fisher expressed his concern that the Russian Sukhoi SU-30 strike fighters newly acquired by the Chinese air force also will include weapons never before exported to Beijing. The new strike fighter is specifically designed to carry the KH-31 missile.

"The Sukhoi bureau hopes the SU-30 will become comparable to the U.S. Boeing F-15E Strike Eagle," wrote Fisher in the defense review. "It is likely that China will also buy from Russia a package of advanced laser and low-light targeting systems, plus a variety of bombs and missiles to equip its SU-30s. The KH-31P/KR-1 anti-radar missile will likely be a major weapon for the SU-30."

The Russian strike fighter sale to China also raised concerns of a new arms race in other defense analyst circles. Robert Karniol, Asia editor of Jane's Defense Weekly, said the Chinese SU-30 sale included spare parts, support and weapons systems. The deal will provide China "with a whole new range of air-launched missiles that the Russians previously refused to sell Beijing," Karniol said.

The Clinton administration decision to purchase the Zvezda KH-31 missile has raised concerns inside Capitol Hill -- not only with Republicans, but with some Democrats as well.

On Oct. 14, Rep. Tim Roemer, D-Ind., sent a letter to Deputy Secretary of Defense John Hamre: "In light of our difficulties with Russia with respect to deep differences over Kosovo, I believe that relying on a Russian-made system at the expense of the current and most reliable domestic supplier of targets will place the needs of the Navy at considerable risk and uncertainty."

The Zvezda KH-31 is not the only new Russian missile with Clinton roots. Russia is also deploying a brand new strategic missile capable of striking America with nuclear warheads. Again, the new Russian weapon has been linked to the Clinton administration scandals.

This month, the Russia Defense Ministry announced it will deploy 10 more mobile SS-27 TOPOL-M ballistic missiles, although it would not divulge where they would be deployed. The SS-27 will join the first batch of 10 TOPOL-M missiles that rolled into active service in 1998 for the Strategic Rocket Forces, replacing 10 older SS-19 missiles located at the Sarakov missile site 450 miles southeast of Moscow.

The SS-27 can carry up to 10 small nuclear warheads, or can be armed with a single massive H-bomb developed by the Russian Ministry of Atomics (MINATOM) Arzamas-16 site. According to Russian weapons engineers, the new Arzamas-designed warhead has an explosive force equal to over half a million tons of TNT.

In 1995 and 1996, Arzamas-16 illegally obtained U.S.-made IBM supercomputers exported with Clinton administration approval. The supercomputers were exported directly to the Russian weapons lab, using false commercial and non-military contracts. IBM pled guilty to the illegal export and paid a $8.5 million fine for their illegal sale.

The New York Times reported the Clinton administration had forgiven the Russians for the illegal purchase of the IBM supercomputers:

"The 16 computers, now fully licensed and operational, will be on display as part of the 'open computing center' that the American Energy Secretary, Bill Richardson, is to inaugurate at the lab that developed Russia's hydrogen bomb," said the Times. "The center is a joint project of the Energy Department and MINATOM, the Russian Ministry of Atomic Energy, to which Washington contributed $2.3 million. It is intended to help find jobs outside the weapons industry for thousands of scientists, engineers and technicians at this remote, still largely closed nuclear city and its premier lab."

Yet, documents obtained using the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) show the Clinton administration deliberately allowed the supercomputers to be exported for military purposes. In a November 1993 letter, NSA Director Adm. James McConnell agreed to allow exports of advanced supercomputers only days before President Clinton met with Chinese President Jiang Zemin.

In 1994, IBM, Silicon Graphics and several other computer companies joined together to form a lobby group called the CSPP, or Computer Systems Policy Project. The CSPP corporate members pressed President Clinton to allow supercomputer sales to military users inside Russia and China.

"Controls on computer exports to Russia and China for commercial, civil end-users should be eliminated," states a May 1995 policy letter sent to Commerce Secretary Ron Brown by the Computer Systems Policy Project (CSPP). "Controls on exports for actual military end-uses may be appropriate until there is greater certainty that neither country poses a threat to U.S. national security."

According to the files of the late Ron Brown, in June 1995, the computer CEOs obtained a top-secret briefing inside the White House on supercomputer exports. After the meeting, President Clinton changed the export regulations on supercomputers, allowing shipments directly to Russian and Chinese nuclear weapons labs, including Arzamas-16, the design bureau for the SS-27 H-bomb.

Moreover, the new SS-27 is rapidly becoming the Russian and Chinese nuclear first-strike weapon of choice. Russia has also sold the SS-27 design to China. Earlier this month, China announced a successful computer-aided test of their version of the SS-27 missile under the designation "Dong Feng" (East Wind) DF-41. The DF-41 will most likely be armed with three Chinese nuclear warheads, designed with the aid of stolen U.S. nuclear design software.

The SS-27 is manufactured by the Moscow Institute for Thermal Technology, and is reported by Russian officials to have Maneuverable Re-entry Vehicle (MARV) capability designed to defeat any expected U.S. deployment of anti-ballistic missile systems.

The SS-27 has a maximum range of 6,500 miles, is 74.5 feet in length, 6.06 feet in diameter and weighs in at just over 102,000 pounds. It is listed as a three-stage, solid propellant, "cold" gas-launched missile equipped with an Inertial/Stellar guidance system. The SS-27 is longer than the U.S.-built MX missile, but is one-half the weight. However, unlike the MX missile, the SS-27 is equipped with eight waffle-patterned folding fins for additional control during the first-stage firing.

Russian government officials recently threatened to deploy the SS-27 in larger numbers if the U.S. decides to field an anti-missile defense system to protect America. Russian State Duma Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Vladimir Lukin told Moskovsky Komsomolets that Russia's security would not be weakened if the U.S. develops an anti-ballistic missile system.

In a speech this month carried by Radio Liberty, Lukin said, "Russia will be able to compete with U.S. space defense systems or will begin installing multiple warheads on the TOPOL (SS-27)." Lukin commented that the Russians would simply "churn" out more missiles. Lukin also stated that such a build-up would be "expensive, but not that expensive."

-- Nabi (nabi7@yahoo.com), October 28, 1999

Answers

When Y2K weakens America, China will make its move to pounce on Taiwan, which will cause the United States to defend them. While American forces are busily occupied in Asian seas, Alexander Lebed, the new Russian leader, will order Russian submarines and aircraft to launch nuclear missiles in a sneak attack upon the American coasts. The United States will be destroyed in one hour. Then we get invaded and the problems get worse for the survivors!

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), October 28, 1999.

I know the prediction of all our enemies taking advantage of the USA when we're totally ravaged by our y2k situation, but please help me understand why all our enemies won't be having their own Y2k problems. Do you think they are all fixed and have work arounds enough to obliviate the US? I know everyone says China has a less computer dependant millitary but do you really feel that they are so indestructable as not to be paralyzed by fuel shortages or infrastructure failures that Y2k could bring worldwide. Why are our enemies going to be set to blow us up when y2k knows no boundaries???

-- a mom (how@come.com), October 28, 1999.

God will allow other nations to punish America for its abominations.

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), October 28, 1999.

Randolf- Thanks for the head-up. I would just shoot myself now, except for one thing.

Scripture promises that God will take His people out of 'Babylon' before it is destroyed in one hour. If your belief in the destruction of the U.S. is in any way connected to Biblical prophecy, don't leave out the good parts!

-- Me (me@me.me), October 28, 1999.


Randolph,

Since you seem to know God's will, perhaps you can clarify something for me.

Am I to understand that God thinks that the United States has committed "abominations" on Russia and China?

Yet, he does not think that Russia and China nuking the United States should be considered an abomination?

-- @ (@@@.@), October 28, 1999.



I think that Russia and China are facing the very real possibility that their entire infrastructure is about to go belly up. Now if the US should escape the worst case y2k scenerio, the fingers of their citizens will be pointing at who? What will the leadership be willing to do quiet the protest? Who else could be their evil empire? It will not be about getting, it will be about taking away. And then there's sour grapes...

-- Gia (laureltree7@hotmail.com), October 29, 1999.

... well, after having now waited quite some time for a response from Randolph, my conclusion is, as I had suspected, that there is no basis in reality to justify his fears. This seems like an opportune moment to remind ourselves of some of the most profound words ever spoken... "There is nothing to fear but fear itself".

-- @ (@@@.@), October 29, 1999.

Or maybe this one .. "Speak softly, but carry a BIG STICK!!

-- mikey (mikeymac@uswest.net), October 29, 1999.

How many foreign troops (Russian, Chinese, and germans and others) are here in U.S. now?Any facts on this?

-- Betty Alice (Barn266@aol.com), October 29, 1999.

Russia and China? Sure, that alliance will last about as long as the Stalin-Hitler alliance.

-- PoshSPice (Where@are.they), October 29, 1999.


@,

The USA, Canada fit the description given in the verse, (Ezek 38:11 KJV) "And thou shalt say (Gog, Magog and their allies), I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,".

We are a land of unwalled villages, at rest, dwell safely, etc.

It is also my opinion the "valley of the passengers" mentioned latter in the chapter is referring to the Mississippi River Valley. This chapter is also for the "latter days" and it is aimed at the "mountains", that is people/nations of Israel.

There are twelve tribes of Israel not just one, Jews = Judah, Usa=Joseph and this is a descrition of Joseph in the latter days...(Gen 49:1 KJV) "And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days."

(Gen 49:22 KJV) "Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:"

(Gen 49:23 KJV) "The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:"

(Gen 49:24 KJV) "But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)"

Yes, I believe we are descendants of Israel, and the promises made to Israel were/are extended to all mankind.

Eventually we will have peace.

Hope I don't sound preachy. I've been studying this for years and others concur with the interpretation.

-- Mark Hillyard (foster@inreach.com), October 29, 1999.


In getting into end-times predictions, I think we are getting off-point and missing Nabi's point in posting this. From his past posts, the main thrust of this post seems to me to be about TREASON in the highest office in the United States of America.

-- Elaine Seavey (Gods1sheep@aol.com), October 29, 1999.

Thanks for pointing out the (apparently not so) obvious, Elaine. When (not if) we are attacked by Russia or China, it will be in large part because our present leader has strengthened them to be able to do so. Whether these things are happening because of treason or simple greed, the outcome will be the same. Our enemies have been strengthened while we are being weakened...

-- Nabi (nabi7@yahoo.com), October 29, 1999.

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