Vanpools, ridesharing. Who CARES what they might do??greenspun.com : LUSENET : I-695 Thirty Dollar License Tab Initiative : One Thread
People keep spouting the wonders of vanpools and ridesharing but the comments are pointless.
If I want or need to go someplace or do something I don't want to have to depend on someone else to MAYBE be going somewhere in the vicinity so I can get there.
If I need to go someplace at three o'clock in the morning I want to get up and GO!!!!
If I go to work, I want to be able to hop in my car and go ANYWHERE, ANYTIME I NEED or WANT to go.
Don't you communists get it?
It's about freedom. That's the thing that's talked about all the time that you folks and the government DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO HAVE.
And in order to STRIP that freedom from us you want to TAX us out of our cars, TAX us out of our homes and makes us completely dependant on the government for even the AIR that we breathe.
This isn't about the loss or gain of GOVERNMENT services becuase MANY of the government 'services' we would be better off without.
And if we are given the chance to force government to act in a rational manner we MIGHT be able to get back even MORE of OUR money that they have been throwing away.
I-695 yes......no other answer is acceptable
-- maddjak (email@example.com), October 26, 1999
"If I want or need to go someplace or do something I don't want to have to depend on someone else to MAYBE be going somewhere in the vicinity so I can get there."
Woa there, slow down jack-o!
I use rideshare/vanpool, but I dont seem to remember signing anything that took away my car/license/ability to drive solo.
In other words, I can still "hop in my car and go ANYWHERE, ANYTIME I NEED or WANT to go."
It just saves me some time and moolah when I have regularly scheduled routes (i.e. work, school, etc.) I'm sure you dont have a problem with people saving time and $.
And no, I dont have to call up my rideshare "communist" buddies every time I need to go somewhere
Your right jakko, "It's about freedom":
I have the freedom to save a little time and money during my regular commutes...and you, maddjak, have the freedom to be a dumb-ass and get stuck in traffic.
Oh, and congratulations on being so well informed about rideshare/vanpool!! I will be on the look-out for vans full of commies!
-- Nate (firstname.lastname@example.org), October 26, 1999.
Vanpools and rideshare are the backbone of the I-5 commute and not caring about them is the same as saying we don't care about air- pollution, or traffic congestion, if you think road rage is bed now, just wait. If this initiative passes the only investment we'll need to make is bullet proof glass. After tempers get flaming and police are limited, we can only thank those who voted yes on a salemans idea.....Don't get con'ed by a smooth talker, in the end you'll be honking your horn.
-- Ted Watsan (email@example.com), October 27, 1999.
Let's see... we're now going to blame raod rage on the passage of 695? Guess I'll have to get some armor piercing ammo, huh?
Is there ANYTHING you people won't blame 695 for?
"My first pledge will be to restore integrity to the White House. And I'll fire anyone who has lied to the American people or the United States Congress." - Al Gore, in a February 2, 1988 presidential debate
-- Westin (firstname.lastname@example.org), October 27, 1999.
So by maddjak's, um, logic, if we completely get rid of all TAXes and get rid of all the, um, stupid government programs they formerly paid for, then we'll all have the, um, freedom to drive wherever we want, whenever we want, in whatever we want, and any direction we want, without gettin' HASSLED by the MAN -- on roads made of dirt and gravel, that is.
Don't you anti-government nihilistic yay-hoos GET IT?
-- The Phantom Communist Menace (email@example.com), October 27, 1999.
to maddjak: You want to get up and go? We want you to get up and go. And keep going. Just kidding....
Actually, I-695 will finally allow the will of the people to flourish. Presumably, you're in the camp that believes in expanding the roadways. In other words, reduce congestion by increasing capacity. If there are enough of you, then you'll be able to increase gas taxes in order to pay for the road projects you so adore.
I'm confident that I-695 will result in more ridesharing, not less. As the voters have already approved Sound Transit, this being completely consistent with I-695.
The benefits of ridesharing are overwhelming to the community. We are able to mitigate congestion in a timely manner. There are economic benefits as more people have access to jobs and educational opportunities. There is a potential for less air pollution. Less congestion means less accidents, and this could result in auto insurance rising at a lower rate - money in the bank for the community.
I am voting for I-695 to end the madness of subsidizing the oil companies via the MVET. If people want more roads, let them pay higher gas taxes. Screw the oil companies. Screw the companies that make gas-guzzling cars.
maddjak, I'm glad we're on the same side, at last. It must be a sign that the new millenium will be a wondrous time, indeed.
-- Matthew M. Warren (firstname.lastname@example.org), October 27, 1999.
"Lets see...we're now going to blame raod rage on the passage of 695?"
No Westee, he was talking about "Road Rage".
I think the "Raods" are an ethnic minority in Bosnia.
By the way, what do you think of Mr. Jackalope's beautiful discertation?
Seen any Commie-filled vans lately?
-- Assistant Spellmeister (email@example.com), October 27, 1999.