Let's remember that we're all only human...

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Let's remember that we're all only human, and that all of us deserve at least a modicum of respect. We all have our opinions; we are bound to disagree. Let us disagree politely, then, and do so with subtlety and wisdom. Otherwise we are inclined to misinterpret one another's points--inserting hyperbole and taunts into our own retorts--and needlessly escalate the anger between each other. This would not matter if this forum were an insulated little box. However, it DOES matter--because, for some of us, anger on this forum might be carried outside and spread to the random drivers on the freeway or to the ones we love.

The reverse should be true. Discussion designed to enlighten should be carried on free of predudice and free of initial malice. Like the song says, "check your baggage at the door."

The CDC is arriving too quickly now for much of us to really do anything about the outcome except sit and wait. It might be less severe than what some doomers predict. It might be worse than what the "BITR" people think. No need for pointing the finger at anyone and childishly "nya nya nya-nya-nya"ing, because next year will likely play out in a way that is completely unexpected FOR ALL OF US, OF ALL VIEWS AND PERSUASIONS. Prepare to be surprised, for better and for worse.

I humbly suggest we take these last few weeks to reach out to the ones we love and enjoy these moments to their fullest, and release our anger to evaporate in the wind. Nothing we do or say is going to convince anyone one way or the other, or affect the outcomes in the slightest way. The cards have already been dealt.

Yes yes I know. Perhaps I too could take this advice to heart. You're correct.

Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

-- coprolith (coprolith@rocketship.com), October 25, 1999


Coprolith, yes! It is past time, imperative now for love, caring, peace. Enjoy the last days of normalcy, mine the good in everything. Practice now and build up reserves of goodwill. Thanks!

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), October 25, 1999.

So true. I don't wish any harm to befall anyone here. It can be easy for tempers to flare.

Maybe we will get through this whole thing easy. Maybe we will discover that we have more community spirit left than we thought.

-- mushroom (mushroom_bs_too_long@yahoo.com), October 25, 1999.

God bless. Good advice. I know I get a little snippy with the pollies...sorry.

-- Mara (MaraWayne@aol.com), October 25, 1999.

Thanks coprolith....This is why I like this forum. Folks can let it all hang out. Polys and doomers alike, and out of all the hair raising, swearing, name calling, verbal abuse, verifiable and non- verifiable documents that are thrashed over+over, by people who are studying the Y2K event and have a pashion for there side of the debate. To also have peace keepers to periodically splash water in your face. I believe this is the only way to root out the truth, prior to the event. When all is said and done perhaps by this time next year, all things that occurred will be in part or all of what has already been mentioned on this forum this year...---...

-- Les (yoyo@tolate.com), October 25, 1999.

Fuck Political Correctness !

-- (and that's@all.she wrote), October 25, 1999.

Yes............ I am making a grand attempt to kill the pollies with kindness. Not just to shame them into decency: I really want the enmity gone from here.

There's too little time left to hate each other. That's not what [insert your] God would have us do.

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), October 25, 1999.

And if you think about it, there should be NO REASON for the kind of Polly vs Doomer wars that we have. I mean, isn't it as simple as:

Polly: "I've considered all the evidence, and I think that Y2K is just going to be a bump in the road, so I'm not going to worry about it. It's my decision to make, and I have made it for me and mine."

Doomer: "I've considered all the evidence and I think that Y2K is going to be the end of the world as we know it, so I'm going to worry about it a lot. It's my decision to make, and I've made it for me and mine."

Polly & Doomer in unison: "So, let's live and let live!"

But no, it does not really work that way. Because those pollies are nothing but scum-face piss-ants that only post on a Y2K forum because they know damn well that Y2K is a lot more than a bumpo. So, to try to make themselves feel better about not preparing, they try to discourage YOU from doing so. Pieces of frigging crap, every one of them.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.cum), October 25, 1999.

If only it weren't for the aliens who post here, everything would be peachy.

-- BigDog (BigDog@duffer.com), October 25, 1999.

This reminds me of Cory Hill's post last week about all the "idiots" we deal with on a daily basis. Obviously, we live in a society that caters to the "less" fortunate in order for the "more" fortunate to feel better about themselves. When, and "if" Y2K becomes a survival of the fittest (sp?), I can guarantee myself that I will be strapped with that ever used..."you've got soooo much and I, and my children, have sooo little, you just have to "share your wealth" to ensure our survival. I agree, we must be continuously "civil" in our debates, but we also must remain cognizant that most of the people (sheeple) aren't interested in life changing in any way for them then it presently is already. Preparing, in any way, is an assault on their simple way of life, whatever that life is. I'm with KOS.....F**k the politically correct mindset. All I've seen from that camp is a degredation of those things we hold valuable.....life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness....Didn't I read that in the Constitution somewhere?


-- shepherd (mjmcinnes@aol.com), October 25, 1999.

But no, it does not really work that way. Because those pollies are nothing but scum-face piss-ants that only post on a Y2K forum because they know damn well that Y2K is a lot more than a bumpo. So, to try to make themselves feel better about not preparing, they try to discourage YOU from doing so. Pieces of frigging crap, every one of them.

Don't fret, KOS, they'll be dead in a few months anyway.

-- (its@coming.soon), October 25, 1999.

I agree except for the statement about PC. Since when did PC=good ol' fashioned manners?

-- good (good@manners.com), October 25, 1999.

OK lisa,

But did you have to encourage IT to reproduce?

-- flora (***@__._), October 25, 1999.

flora: I did? email me

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), October 25, 1999.

I agree. Political Correctness, while well-intentioned, is a sorry excuse and a lousy substitute for basic, common courtesy. I'm not saying censor your ideas, no matter how wacky they may be. I'm just asking people to be polite.

-- coprolith (coprolith@rocketship.com), October 25, 1999.


I appreciate your efforts on the forum. Your post about the 60's is still rambling around in the back of my head. I was on the tail end of that period, with older siblings that may well be contemporaries of your folks. In fact as you describe your folks, they resemble my California early or pre boomer siblings much more than the swingin' stereotypes.

As the tag-along kid, I was parked in front of the TV for the Kennedy funeral, etc. We used to eat dinner with the news reports coming back from Nam, lots of images are seared on my brain - with a child's frame of reference to interpret them.

The things about that time that apply nowadays are the sense of emotion - at least what we see on this forum; a sense that things aren't quite what they seem; the dream or hope for a better world, and the belief that it can or could be a possibility { perhaps the fear and mourning that it will never be so}.

Thanks for the reminder that we are all still 'human beans' when you get down to it. This space has been greatly enhanced by your input.

Be well,

-- flora (***@__._), October 25, 1999.

Good idea. Keep repeating it, coprolith.

Sincerely, Stan Faryna

-- Stan Faryna (faryna@groupmail.com), October 25, 1999.

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