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How I'll Survive Y2K (I Think)
"Paul and Lynda are having their teeth pulled and being fitted with dentures this year because they think Y2K will make dentists scarce next year."
-- saber-toothed rattler (firstname.lastname@example.org), October 21, 1999
Kilpinger Headline - Oct 21, 1999 - "The real y2k Problem"
-- gummer (email@example.com), October 21, 1999.
You're pulling my leg
-- podiatrist (firstname.lastname@example.org), October 21, 1999.
My sister knew a guy who thought his tooth fillings were making him ill, mercury and other toxins. So he had all his fillings re-done with gold. Cost a bundle.
-- jeannie (email@example.com), October 21, 1999.
Talk about putting money where your mouth is. Walking your talk.
-- wouldn't do it (firstname.lastname@example.org), October 21, 1999.
inflammatory statement to shock reporters
-- scare tactic (email@example.com), October 21, 1999.
I recently had my bunkie do some dental work on me with a cordless drill and a soldering iron. Worked great and he's developing a good 'fallback' skill!
-- Porky (Porky@in.cellblockD), October 21, 1999.
-- lost (firstname.lastname@example.org), October 21, 1999.
Must be a militia gang thing. L-o-n-g file at FBI headquarters.
-- no (wonder@they're.worried), October 21, 1999.
Only his tooth fairy knows for sure.
-- when's (email@example.com), October 21, 1999.
This is funny. What paul really told them was, "I'm thinking about getting my dental work taken care of, the stuff that I've put off for a while."
I just did that. My dentist has been bugging me for 10-15 years to have my last wisdom tooth extracted. The other three were extracted when I was in college. Since the tooth wasn't bothering me, I always declined.
He always said that if it developed a cavity that it should be pulled rather than filled. I've spent the last 10 years brushing and flossing that tooth carefully.
On Wednesday, I went to Dave-the-killer-dentist, and he pulled the tooth. The tooth had a cavity, he could have filled it but argued that it was way in the back, wasn't doing anything for me, and needed a $700+ crown so for $140, it was a no-brainer.
Anyway that's the story.
-- cory (kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net), October 22, 1999.
Did you see that last line about always being able to go back to Milnes farm. I guess he doesn't realize he'd be a dead man in about 30 seconds.
-- (firstname.lastname@example.org), October 22, 1999.
My guess is that Paul's teeth are a permanent fixture in cpr's ass right about now.
-- (email@example.com_me_cpr), October 22, 1999.
How a Polly Thinks at a Glance:
"They are enclosing their property with woven-wire fencing, and they have guns to defend themselves against starving Y2K marauders.
"Well, hey, when you look at me, are you looking at a dead guy? Is that the way you have to look at it?" "Yes," says Lynda, in a kindly way. "Yes," agrees Paul.
"I drive back to the city thinking hard. I like the Milnes and take their Cassandra-like warnings seriously. On the other hand, I'm optimistic about what people can accomplish together in a crisis. "
"All right! If worst comes to worst, I can make it to the Milnes' farm."
Why am I thinking of Darwin right now....
-- (firstname.lastname@example.org), October 22, 1999.
My guess is that Paul's teeth are a permanent fixture in cpr's ass right about now.
Actually, I hear they're in a timeshare agreement with Flint's ass also.
-- a (email@example.com), October 22, 1999.
Cory has the story correct because HE talked to me about it. ( Thank you Cory, for trying to set the record straight) What Bill Geise did was botch up what we said. Our teeth are not in the best of condition and we told Bill that we were going to have substantial work done before the rollover. Lynda may even need to get an upper plate. however, it came out that Bill said we were going to have ALL our teeth pulled. This is ludicrous and very common when talking to reporters. They botch it up badly. When The Bergen record Reporeter was here, he asked about a self defense situation. We told him that the possibility could arise and that we were able to defend ourselves and would not shrink from doing so if the need arose. That translated out into,
"If you come near Paul Milne's farm...HE WILL KILL YOU."
If you want to warn people, you take certain risks when talking to reporters. They often get the facts wrong and even embellish on their stories.
What is worse, half the thing believed about me are from absolute fabrications from people who read oft distorted accounts in newspapers and then distort them more all by themselves.
The US News and World Report asked me what the 'bunkhouse' was for. I told him it was to house any unfortunates that might come along. We were happy to be able to help house hungry people or sick people until they could move on. The reporter wrote that it was for housing our 'gun toting far hands who patrolled the perimeter'.
Absolute, out and out, complete fabrication.
And so, Pollyannas sink their teeth into the falsehoods and go on a field day.
No skin off my nose. believe what you want. You have a bout 70 days to keep on believing in fairy tales and then reality will start to kick in.
Paul Milne "If you live within 5 miles of a 7-11, you're toast"
-- Paul Milne (firstname.lastname@example.org), October 22, 1999.
If you and the wife are to dumb to take care of your teeth, why would anyone think you have any smarts about Y2K? Regular visits to the dentist is common sense. Apparently you don't have any.
Don't blame it on your childhood either. hahahahaha
-- (IhaveTeeth@ .com), October 22, 1999.
If all of that is true, and knowing how things are reported these days I have no doubt that it is, WHY ON EARTH do you still talk to those idiots?
-- Uncle Deedah (email@example.com), October 22, 1999.
Appreciate the comments, Paul - thank you much kind sir, for the actual information.
About reporters "demanding" the sources they want to write the stories they want, perfore theinterview.
Wa salerted this morning (from a lady in Kennesaw who coordinates a community prep group) that a reporter from the Atlanta Hournal wanted a person "heading for the hills" to interview to write a story about for his paper.
ref: << This is an email from Clint Williams of the AJC - he is the writer for whom I did an intereview back in January. He is looking for folks to interview for an upcoming piece in the AJC. Here is the email he sent me an his contact info:
Hello. This is Clint Williams with the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. I'm looking for people who are still very concerned about Y2K -- people building bunkers or heading for the hills. I know these are the sort of people who don't want anyone to know what they're up to, but I'm still hopeful there is one out there willing to talk. Can you refer me to anyone like that?
My new work number is 404-582-7035. firstname.lastname@example.org>>
So, I called Mr. Williams - spent more time explaining what "might" really happen, what the real threats are (in Atlanta in particular) and what parts of pieces of the puzzle are unanswered, and parts "might" be okay....he wasn't interested at all.
repeated (4 times) that he wanted "hoarders" and "building bunkers" - he wanted people "heading for the hills" - the facts didn't matter.
Asked him to interview people who claimed nothing would happen - probably 60%-70% of his readers - and challenge them on what they would do IF problems occur. He didn't want to answer - was only interested in the fanatic point of view.
But I'm sure he is "good" journalist - ready to really investigate a story and report the truth.....yeah right. Probably believes in the Clinton's tooth fairy too.
-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Marietta, GA) (email@example.com), October 22, 1999.
Robert, the Oregonian wanted to interview us. Suspect they were looking for a "lunatic" slant. They wanted to print our last name, or our picture. They were completely disinterested in the truth, or any of the links we sent them. Sad. To them it's just another assignment, sorta boring, maybe a kook komponent, but held at 10-foot pole length in any case.
-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (firstname.lastname@example.org), October 22, 1999.
Yeap, Mr. Milne, that's what the media does, botches up the story. But you can't have it both ways. Suffice to say if they do a poor job of telling your story, all their Y2k stories on the readiness status the world over are subject to a equal amount of inaccuracies. Makes it kind of difficult to use thier stories as a commentary base when their fact gathering is unreliable, doesn't it?
-- Buster Collins (BustrCollins@aol.com), October 22, 1999.
Like soldiers at the Cenotaph
The one-fang gang stands tall
And woe betide you if you laugh
For they have seen it all.
Old Paul, Paula, Pamela-girl,
And Cory, Infomagic, Ed,
Have fought with tigers in their time
And scared them half to death.
Now some have just the upper right
And some the bottom left;
While others have a gummy grin
And dribble down their chests.
Though years have gone, and also teeth,
Those boys dream on undaunted;
But in those dreams of past campaigns
Full sets of teeth are flaunted.
-- (email@example.com), October 22, 1999.
I have to admit that Paul Milne rubs me the wrong way on a regular basis and that I agree with very little he has to say, but he is dead- bang on when he criticizes this reporter not only for changing what was said but changing it to something so utterly stupid.
Think about it: Suppose the availability of modern dentistry really does evaporate as of 1/1/2000. Would you rather have a mouthfull of your own teeth that will last you some indefinite time into the future, or a set of dentures that become useless the first time you dropped them (or you bit into a chicken bone, or the dog chewed them up, or the child buried them in the yard and forgot where they were, or ...)? Natural teeth will probably rot out in ones and twos, but full dentures are gonna get screwed up a mouthful at a time. By pulling everything you place yourself in a much higher risk situation by increasing your total dependence on professional dental services, not lower it.
I think Paul Milne is frequently barbaric in his behavior on-line. I strongly disagree with the majority of his worldview as he has expressed it here, and I think he's just plain nuts on the topic of Y2K and it's total impact on society. I'm still waiting on his "obvious" evidence why "millions and millions and uncounted millions" will certainly die from Y2K (This is request 33, in case any one is counting). But I never thought him stupid, and it would take an utter moron to do what suggested by that article. In this case, I would agree with and applaud his use of "butthead" to describe this reporter.
-- Paul Neuhardt (firstname.lastname@example.org), October 22, 1999.
Good for Paul to clear this one up. Nip the bud of rumor. Did Paul have it out with that reporter? What an idjit.
-- reporters (email@example.com), October 22, 1999.
Paul Neuhardt: Thanks for not only explaining, but actually exemplifying, what a butthead is.
-- King of Spain (firstname.lastname@example.org), October 23, 1999.
Not as dramatic as Paul's story, but our whole family (me,my wife and 2 kids) have dental appointments for November. Get the teeth cleaned, check up and leaves 45 days to get a second appointment for any work to be done. It makes sense to go in now, just in case there are problems. I guess you could wait for some dentist to set up the old foot pump drill operations during daylight hours, as he asks you "Is it safe? Is it safe?"(Marathon Man) Ouch!
-- Bill (email@example.com), October 23, 1999.
What's odd is how Milne parses so very carefully through every news story he sees, trying to illustrate phrase by phrase how things will be very bad, or how good news isn't valid. Yet each time he's been written about, the story has been garbled. And stories about Milne are basically human interest stories reporters are good at, while y2k stories by nature grapple with technical issues beyond any normal reporter's experience. The idea that reporters can't get simple stories straight yet write with great precision about coming complex technical problems is thumpingly inconsistent.
Playing the game of "What do you suppose the original information might have been" when reading ANY news story is difficult, but should still be necessary if we have any hope of understanding what we're being told.
-- Flint (firstname.lastname@example.org), October 23, 1999.