that live beneath the city streets of New York City everyday. They live in the maze of underground sewer tunnels and subway tunnels that wind around for miles and miles underneath the city.

These people have survived for years without material things that you and I think our lives could not possibly go on without.

I have read dozens and dozens of statements on this forum where people have stated that if things get "that bad" or "this bad" that they would not want to go on living. What a bunch of pussy's!!!!

What do you propose your alternative is...suicide? For the rest of us that stay behind and do the mop-up, Adios amigos. I for one think NYC will survive. People there are fighters with an attitude, unlike the doomers that don't want to keep living if things go bad.

-- Mel (citylife@stinks.bigtime), October 15, 1999

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These people survive from handouts and handdowns from the people who are the "haves". These people eat at soup kitchens, beg for money and sell junk we "haves" throw out.

If the "haves" become "have nots", the current "have nots" will die off first.

-- hamster (hamster@mycage.com), October 15, 1999.

If city life stinks so bad Mel, why don't you just leave instead of complaining about it, you schmuck?

-- nothere nothere (notherethere@hotmail.com), October 15, 1999.

"unlike the doomers that don't want to keep living if things go bad."

For one thing Mel...Most of the 'doomers' are the ones who take their preps the most seriously. I have rarely heard the wild claim that you speak of. Besides, those 'weak sisters' who would off themselves are doing the survivors a favor by 'assisting' in the conservation of hard-to-get supplies...enuff said, except

don't feed the trolls...

-- Billy Boy (Rakkasan@Yahoo.com), October 15, 1999.

And your source for this 50,000 figure is.....

-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Marietta, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), October 15, 1999.

Robert, NYC has approximately 7,500,000 population www.ny.com

This represents less than 1 percent of the total population of NYC. Anyhow, ABC did a news report on the homeless in NYC sometime last year. Contact them for the research data. 50,000 is not a huge number of homeless living underground in the sewer system when you are using large scale numbers.

-- Mel (citylife@stinks.bigtime), October 15, 1999.

Mel,

I believe the proper spelling is "pussies"

-- cavscout (justfor@the.record), October 15, 1999.

These men, women, and children that you speak of suffer today, and have acclimated to there situation. When TSHTF there lifestyle change will be a BUMP IN THE ROAD, they know how to eat things that would make a Billygoat puke ( thanks first blood). In fact they would be in a better position, moving on up so to speak, because during the termoil things are not as controlled, lots of loose ends, lots of new opportunities. Middle class John Q Public on the other hand would not know how to overnight acclimate to the new deal...---...

-- Les (yoyo@tolate.com), October 15, 1999.

I will stay in the city on the New Years eve, but not in the Times Square. I prefer to eat black caviar and drink french champagne at home. As soon as something happens I will be on my way to Poconos or Catskills.

-- Brooklyn (livinin@brooklyn.com), October 15, 1999.

yeah, you and what was it 2.5 million other yeah-hoos there Brooklyn. Best of luck to you and yours. Either you got balls as big as church bells or absolutely no native intelligence!!

-- Billy Boy (Rakkasan@Yahoo.com), October 15, 1999.

One of those homeless folks grabbed me a few weeks ago when I was in New York Shitty. She asked me for some money. I pointed to a sign in a window that said, "Help Wanted," and told her to get a job.

I don't feel sorry for the beggars anymore.

-- (Dowguy@wallstreet.com), October 15, 1999.

Mel,

Lighten up! I haven't read or heard ANYTHING about homelessness since This President Began To Run The Country. LOL

I used to live in NYC, and now choose to live in the Desert Southwest. I'm sure that New York City will do just fine in Y2K...and forget that NONSENSE about Wall Street tanking. Once in a Century, in the latter years of that Century, the Infrastructure is transformed by new technology. Buy the Names...your grandkids will be grateful!

-- K. Stevens (kstevens@ It's ALL going away in January.com), October 15, 1999.

Personal observations:

Atlanta has homeless. No telling how many. Some sleep on bridge abutments, in between the girders. Some sleep in doorways downtown. Some sleep God knows where.

-- Tom Carey (tomcarey@mindspring.com), October 17, 1999.

I'm 41 years old. when I was 14years old , I found an abbutment to a bridge.I said to myself, at age 14, that when tshtf, this is where i am going to go to live. fair warning ; dont be under MY bridge when the shit hits the fan. i will do whatever i have to to protect my little space that i have carved out for myself 27 years ago.

-- ed (edrider007@aol.com), October 17, 1999.

And all this time I thought trolls lived under the bridges, gee, live and learn I guess.

-- Michael (mikeymac@uswest.net), October 17, 1999.