Y2K has always been far far far more than an I/T problem, far far more than a technical problem, far more than a business problem.

'Cause Y2K is also a socio-political problem, with every sort of spill-over ramifications (economics, financial, military, legal, medical, etc.)

And boiling it down to it's human essence, Y2K always required sensitivity to care about it, common-sense to understand it, and courage and strength to accept it and fight against it.

Take care

-- George (jvilches@sminter.com.ar), October 03, 1999

Answers

You are right of course.

However I am always puzzled by the idea that a technical and/or economic problem could take place in some sort of vacuum. As though machines and money had lives of their own. Issues which would concern them alone.

Machines and money are tools created by humans. When they cease to work it is naturally humans who will be affected.

If you build machines to feed, heat and transport you then when those machines break you will be hungry, cold and stuck where you are. The machine doesn't have a problem with that. The machine doesn't care at all.

Of course Y2k is a human problem and requires human strength, ingenuity and courage to deal with it. Lets hope we all find a lot of that darn soon.

-- R (riversoma@aol.com), October 03, 1999.

I don't know if I qualify as a lurker...found this site a coulple of weeks ago. It's great to find so many similiar feelings and ideas here, I sometimes feel I am in some sort of "twilight zone episode",where no one seems to "get it". They are resistant to any kind of resoning, much less facts. I have enough for about 8 people for lets say 6 months...rationed better, longer. So my question is, After you run out of what you can feasably share what next? What is it? about 89 days left... so it could be annoying, yea! lets party...or really f..... up, I mean messed up...lets prey. It's like rolling dice and we'll see what comes out...but the dice will roll. Not a happy camper right now...

-- Daniel DeLong (yamster@cruzio.com), October 03, 1999.

I agree wholeheartedly with the sociologiac ramifications of y2k, espically in major metroploitan areas. Not only that but the "wild card" aspect of bio terrorism and other terrorist attacks make for a most interesting set of possibilities. Add to that, a sociopathic pawn of the NWO in office, and I believe the possibility of martial law or worse. BTW, this is my first reply to this forum, after a couple of weeks "lurking" and gleaning info. To any of you other Freepers out there: "howdy!!" from ActionNewsBill

-- Bill Stievers (actionbil@aol.com), October 03, 1999.

I agree wholeheartedly with the sociologiac ramifications of y2k, espically in major metroploitan areas. Not only that but the "wild card" aspect of bio terrorism and other terrorist attacks make for a most interesting set of possibilities. Add to that, a sociopathic pawn of the NWO in office, and I believe the possibility of martial law or worse. BTW, this is my first reply to this forum, after a couple of weeks "lurking" and gleaning excellent y2k preparedness info. To any of you other Freepers out there: "howdy!!" from ActionNewsBill

-- Bill Stievers (actionbil@aol.com), October 03, 1999.

R (Riversoma),

I find that contemporary human beings try by all means to deposit outside of themselves every possible responsibility not included in their ultra-specific field of endeavor. Sort of like the 'international division of labor' principle applied to responsibilities. The sheer density of people has forced us to do so.

I don't own a gun. Policemen carry guns for all of us. I don't save up for a rainy day. Mother state will take care of me if things go bad.

It all boils down to the fact that we are just too many in this world. Bacteria and insects can't get any denser than 10 to the 13th power. I think they are watching us laughing their heads off right now.

Take care

-- George (jvilches@sminter.com.ar), October 03, 1999.

Yep, sensitivity, common sense, courage and strength are needed. A .356 Magnum, an SKS and a 12 gauge shotgun with lots of ammo would also be quite helpful.

-- cody (cody@y2ksurvive.com), October 03, 1999.

Cody,

I guess that we would both agree in that "courage & strength" encompasses pretty much your guns and ammo, right?

Take care

-- George (jvilches@sminter.com.ar), October 03, 1999.

courage and strength does not nessecarily imply the willingness and knowhow to defend one's self

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), October 04, 1999.

not completely zoobie, but sensitivity and common sense would do the rest, don't you think?

Take care

-- George (jvilches@sminter.com.ar), October 04, 1999.