Thoughts on Feminism...

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I am doing a study this coming Wednesday night on modern-day Feminism and if the Bible has anything to say about it or not. I think it does, I don't know if Cottrell is the end-all purveyor of wisdom on this subject or not. What do you think? Does the Bible address the modern phenomenon of feminism or not?

-- Anonymous, September 24, 1999

Answers

Michael.....

In my opinion, Jack Cottrell's work was exhaustive (i.e., what more can be said).

If you haven't already....purchase anything he has on the subject and you will be well prepared.

Darrell......

From the guys I have seen who participate in P.K.....they still "can't .....won't.....don't." And those who do.....were doing it before PK.

Sorry....had to throw that in.

-- Anonymous, September 25, 1999


Sam.....

Great words....what is that to the tune of???

-- Anonymous, September 28, 1999


I believe Jack Cottrell does a fantastic job handling the Scriptures on this matter. Of course, the Scriptures don't even begin to address what might be called the modern feminist movememt. (Not that God didn't knowit was going to happen, of course).

The problems of the first century church were somewhat different than the problems with feminism of the 20th century, though it all may have the same root to the problem.

Once you put together your notes for your Wednesday class, I would sure like for you to e-mail me a copy for my files.

I do believe that any problem the church might have in this area is somewhat different than it was even five years ago. Unless I live in an area that if far different than others, I don't see a radical feminist movement in the churches. In fact, it seems to be the same problem that has been around our congregations for decades now ... the men don't/won't/can't do what they should be doing, so the women step in to get it done. Sadly, this is true even within the bounds of congregational leadership.

Of course, this is one of the reasons Promise Keepers was brought into existence, but that's another thread alltogether.

-- Anonymous, September 25, 1999


Danny -- for the most part, I would agree with you. I can only give examples from two congregations: -- Charleston: When I got there, for the most part, the men were only somewhat involved. Much teaching on the subject, along with a visit to Atlanta and DC conferences. The men are now taking charge and getting things done in a much more biblical fashion. Now, was it my teaching, PK, or both? -- Lake Lynn: When I got there, the men were not involved at all. That included the two elders. Women ran things there in a big way. Oh, the men had a "men's meeting" once every month, but for the most part it was a waste of time. Spend 30 minutes or more reviewing the financial report, which was so simple it should have only taken 5 minutes to review. Much teaching on the subject of leadership, and especially the men's role in the congregation, home, etc. Suggested PK since in seemed I just wasn't getting through. They wouldn't hear of attending something like that ... and to this day, the women still run things. I don't feel too badly about my part though ... in talking with past leaders and preachers from there, it seems that it has always been that way.

Only two examples I can give. But I certianly agree ... if the congregations would do what they are supposed to do in training and teaching the men to be men, PK wouldn't be needed! It never would have been established. Says a lot about the condition of many of the congregations today.

-- Anonymous, September 25, 1999


Danny:

I think Cottrell does a good job, but he certainly is not "exhaustive." I believe that this topic is one that cuts to the quick because it is a double-edged sword. We tend to see the failings of modern feminism but don't notice the Redwood Forest of male chauvinism that is more prevalent in our churches and is just as wrong as the most radical feminist viewpoint. It is a subject sorely ignored in our churches and due to that fact we will pay the price of not having a clear voice on the issue.

-- Anonymous, September 26, 1999



Darrell:

I did an extensive study on the role of women in Scripture but I never touched the subject of modern feminism. It is a nine-week study and you can view all nine studies at our church's web page - http://www.christianpages.org/fort

Just click on the button "Mike's Office" and then scroll down to "The Pulpit" and you will see al those studies there. Let me know your thoughts.

-- Anonymous, September 26, 1999


I know an old song, written by a Baptist minister:

Let's leave it to the ladies. That's what we ought to do,
Because they're so effective in W.M.U. [Women's Missionary Union]
How they got so efficient, I'll never understand;
But what do you expect of me, for I am just a man.

Each woman has an office, and some have two or three,
And they can work for several hours without a break, you see.
But what about their husbands, their ever-loving spouse?
He cooks the meals and keeps the kids and vacuum cleans the house.

By Robert's Rules of Order, they keep their business neat.
They give reports and programs, and then dismiss to eat.
I often think that Robert wrote Parliamentary Law
Assisted by his wife and sister and his mother-in-law.

But when the church needs workers, they do not wrack their brains.
They go enlist a lady that the WMU has trained.
It surely is a good thing that the women enter in,
'Cause we'd all be in trouble if we left it to the men!
A-men! A-Women!


-- Anonymous, September 28, 1999

I just wanted you to know that I finished the study on the modern feminist movement and whether Scripture addresses it or not. The study can be viewed @ http://www.christianpages.org/fort - Just click on "Mike's Office" and then scroll down to "The Pulpit" and click on that. It is titled, "Does the Bible Address the Modern Feminist Movement?" Let me know what you think of the finished product.

-- Anonymous, September 29, 1999

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