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Dear Al-D: I have no personal bitch with you or the Sharing of the Word. I have no bitch with the Sharing of the Word here on the forum. I DO have a problem with YOUR INAPROPRIATE ATTEMPTS to harass the members of this Forum, with what you believe to be an attempt to Share. You are HEREBY INTENSLY INVITED to select ANOTHER PLATFORM to do what you are clearly certain you are called to do.
Should you feel the need to continue posting here, and should you continue in your current style, method, and mesage, you WILL MEET with DELETION as soon as I or any of the other Sysops are made aware of your "contribution".
SYSOP # D
-- Sysop # D (firstname.lastname@example.org), September 22, 1999
One more thing, Al; = has nothing to do with grammer. And while I'm at it, I would like to ask everyone to pray: God, (or my higher power for those in the program,) please show Al that you are not behind his ranting; that it is all in his mind; that your message would be more clear, and better spelt. Amen
-- KoFE (your@town.USA), September 22, 1999.
-- BiGG (email@example.com), September 22, 1999.
Well done, D. Thanks.
-- Old Git (firstname.lastname@example.org), September 22, 1999.
You have your hands full and I wish you success. Al-d has never come across as being too well in the head and he will make a game out of this. An example is the Waco thread a few below this one.
-- Truth (email@example.com), September 22, 1999.
Thank you, Sysop D. Al-D is either a moron or simply trying to cause problems by posing as a moron. Either way he/she/it has nothing whatsoever to contribute to this forum.
-- MinnesotaSmith (firstname.lastname@example.org), September 22, 1999.
I guess I get to agree with my cohort. The best way for ME to help is if people let me know at the e address below. Other sysops may be addressed at the above e address (on the opening post).
-- Chuck, a night driver (email@example.com), September 22, 1999.
Call me what you will, but I don't mind Al's post's, the content isn't too far removed(usually) from some of the other more "colorfull" posters. What does get to me is that whole +== crap. MAN TYPE RIGHT DAMMIT!!
-- CygnusXI (firstname.lastname@example.org), September 22, 1999.
The hell you say. I find al-d's remarks no more worthless than most of the other wacko's that are allowed to post here under the auspice that has nothing to do with Y2K. Since this board's discussion have turned mainly away from Y2K discussions, I find your words not to conforting. I do not find WORDS threatening in the least until those words are put into action. Al-d is probably the most harmless person on this board. What if I find the rambling of these wacko's offensive and harrassing? Are you going to delete them? IMHO, this board has lost its focus for the most part and if I recall, everyone should let their mouse do some work. OT subjects are the mainstream here and thats to bad. With less than 100 day to go before the big event, the least of your worries should be al=d.
-- y2k dave (email@example.com), September 22, 1999.
Finding al-d's posts increasingly troll-like and extremely obnoxious. Al, it's time for you to take a rest and gain some perspective... on life... and how to live yours... and allow other's to live theirs. To each their own religious persuasion. This is not the forum for your constant one-sided "God Talk."
-- Diane J. Squire (firstname.lastname@example.org), September 22, 1999.
Hey,Al-D, Why don't you start your own forum ?That would be really great because you could share your thoughts & beliefs with others who would really appreciate them.
-- ironist (email@example.com), September 22, 1999.
I second that, Diane. al-d is just cluttering up the boards, and is contributing nothing. It's just the same old 'YOU're all gonna=ROAST in hELL' crapola, again, and again, and again, and again, =AD NAUSEUM.
Give it a break, Al. You're losin it.
-- Pinkrock (firstname.lastname@example.org), September 22, 1999.
I've always found spotting Al-d's posts kind of like a real easy version of "Where's Waldo".
-- Dave (email@example.com), September 22, 1999.
Sysop D, Since you posted your response for the benefit of all as well as Al-d, I will comment. Al-d's posts have not bothered me one whit. If I'm not interested, I don't go there. There are others here who have posted inflammatory and baiting"info" but due to "their faith and practice" have not been banished by the "Brethren." Once again, in my opinion, the hand of the "moderate" moderators is visible for everyone.
-- Barb (firstname.lastname@example.org), September 22, 1999.
We now say "you are not welcome to speak because we don't like what you say and it is not what we want to hear or talk about?" This nice and diverse group is starting to sound like it would like to purge it's self and become something pure?
-- Andre Coltrin (email@example.com), September 22, 1999.
I'm able to read less here -- I spend 20 minutes a day, not 2 hours anymore.
I don't even have time anymore to come back to threads and see who has said what in response to whom. I may be missing great posts but I can't take the greater chance of missing some Real-Life turning points here.
I NEED the New Answers (New Threads) menu to turn over in 3 or 4 days, not 1.5 days.
I can only click into 10 or 20 threads on it now, not 1/3 of them. DAMN!
Sysops have done a good job of removing attacks from trolls. Thank them!
I still spend 2 or 3 Web hours a day; I just can't afford to spend them all here, as I did in January-June. The glut here is just too costly in time for the amount of help or info it gives. Time to tighten up the ship!
Just the fact that we even have the question of an "al-D" in our minds at the 100-day mark, is a sign of our lagging at our mission, which is to help us all be ready for rollover. Other garbage is just harder to identify and decide to eliminate. You start where you can.
(I've known other sick people who cluttered up other community activities -- we tried to help them when we could, but we had to -- and sometimes failed to -- keep them from taking us down. This ain't no therapy camp!)
Again, it's just the sysops job to cut down the volume of garbage that gets in our way.
After Jan. 1 (maybe) anyone can do or say whatever the **** they want.
-- jor-el (firstname.lastname@example.org), September 22, 1999.
It's not Al's point of view that irks me.........everyone has different thoughts and freedom of expression is important no matter how distasteful we might think someones ideas are........
However posting the SAME lines day in and day out gets annoying. I don't care if Al or anyone else for that matter wants to tell us that they believe God is a four-headed cyborg from the planet Zorgon who eats celery and donuts and forbids the playing of golf on Tuesdays........as long as they don't tell us that 375 times each and every day.
-- Craig (email@example.com), September 22, 1999.
why am i singled out? because i see the big picture?i posted last week about pig-problem in n.c. you deleted that.is that o.t.?i posted 6 weeks ago, about genetically eng. seeds & danger of pollen? i was flamed with the PRIVATE ADS I PLACED ON WEB.i,ve placed links to prophetic-sites[so have others]you have a control clique here,NO MY MESSAGE ISN,T TURN-OR-BURN=IT,S ABOUT THE SIGNS OF THE TIMES.the bottom line is THE TRUTH is scary & you can,t handle it.AMERICA has become a cesspool, & the only HOPE is a return to a spiritual-healing. you delete EVERYTHING I POST,INCLUDING NON-RELIGEOUS INFO. i,m not the PROBLEM-YOUR PERSONAL HATE TOWARDS ME-SPEAKS VOLUMES.
-- i,m not harrasing. (firstname.lastname@example.org), September 22, 1999.
You tellum AL_D. I don't believe a word you say but I respect your right to post here as the sysop's duties having gotten away from the main function of this board.
-- y2k dave (email@example.com), September 22, 1999.
MANY OF [THE IN CROWD] WHINE ABOUT BIG BRO.-YET MODERATE LIKE BIG BRO.
-- I LIKE TRUTH. (firstname.lastname@example.org), September 22, 1999.
And what of Dieter? He is regarded as an amusing personality with his peculiar style, yet his many posts contributed little to the discussion at hand. I suspect that some here just don't like Al-D's message of repentance. Go easy on the censorship moderators.
-- Jeff (email@example.com), September 22, 1999.
yEs jEfF!!!!! wHAT Of dIEteR inDEEd???????
bEWaRE inFIdeLs, sHALL nOT dIEtER NoW Add LitTLe tO The sUBJecT At hANd?????? oF COurSE!!!!! cONSIdeR IT dONe!!!!!!!
-- Dieter (firstname.lastname@example.org), September 22, 1999.
I've never posted a response to a religious question in here before but I'm breaking my own rule now. I too, am a born-again Christian and have no problem with what Al says. His presentation may not be my cup of tea but to force his views off the forum is a bit much. If he were a tree-hugging, PETA freak, wiccan, new-ager, I doubt very seriously that anything he had to say would be chastised. My Bible says that "every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is LORD." You may not believe that and that's ok, but there will come a day you will have wished that you had willingly done this. How many letter's of the alphabet that follow your name does not a wise person make.
Lighten up guys. How many times have you read about gold from one of Andy's threads. At some point, what he is saying will come to pass. What makes you think what Al says won't, too?
-- don (email@example.com), September 22, 1999.
dieter is an infrequent amusing poster- Al-D is obnoxious and irrepresible- and a constant annoying poster. A big difference. I skip ole al's posts- but wouldn't mind seeing less of them......
-- farmer (firstname.lastname@example.org), September 22, 1999.
You wrote:If he were a tree-hugging, PETA freak, wiccan, new-ager, I doubt very seriously that anything he had to say would be chastised.
Don't you think that's just a bit of a "straw man"? Since, as far as I can tell, there are NO tree-hugging, PETA freak, wiccan, new-agers on the board, why did you bring it up? Seems like your persecution slip is showing.
On the subject of al-d,
The only problem I have with him, is his, shall we say "creative" use of syntax, punctuation and grammer, which tend to make his posts unreadable. As far as his ideology goes, there are a lot of posters who present the same ideas, and a lot of them are a lot more forceful, verbose and persistent than al-d.
And as to him saying the same thing over and over again, c'mon gang. Don't we all? I've only been active on this board for a little shy of two months, with about three weeks lurk time, before that, and I can already predict what people can say with pinpoint accuracy. Sure, every once in a great while, I'm surprised, but it's pretty rare. There is a straight party line, for every position, and most of us can be counted on to speak it, at the appropriate moment.Pollies will say polly things, moderates will say moderate things and doomers will say doomer things. The same could be said about political and religious allegiances. al-d's just hammering away at his favorite nail, like the rest of us. He just has, ummmmmm, a "different" way of holding the hammer.
This is not really meant to flame either Chuck or Di. The two of you must face an incredible temptation, on a daily basis to do mass deletes, and I applaude your restraint. But I always think it requires a second look, anytime a particular poster is being singled out for deletion.
Besides, aren't you just a little worried that this is feeding into al-d's disease, anyway?
-- Bokonon (bok0non@my-Deja.com), September 22, 1999.
Al-d repeatedly demonstrates his inability to comprehend the nature of the complaints about him. He persists in his belief that he alone is persecuted because of his faith...absolutely not true. Al is deluded in the extremity of his need to feel like a martyr for God. But, as others have said, it is NOT the intent of this forum to provide therapy.
In the midst of the Y2K end game, religious/spiritual discussions are not off-topic, IMHO. While I am not a Christian, I've found Craig's postings on the subject interesting, and not in the least disruptive to this forum, because they are infrequent, on-topic, and respectful of others. In fact, there was not a single delete request on a fairly lengthy thread here yesterday regarding the differences between Catholicism and fundamental Christianity. I read every one of the posts there because the contributors were, overall, intelligent, articulate, and respectful. I also appreciated that their viewpoints were contained in a single thread intended for that topic.
There are many posters on TB2000 with sincere religious convictions, just as passionate in their faith as Al-d, who are not clogging up every single thread on the board with their beliefs. Yesterday, there was NO escaping Al-d's posts...there was more than one thread where Al-d's incoherent typing appeared as every other post! Even King of Spain doesn't post his often-read tagline on EVERY thread on the board...and NEVER more than once on the same thread! The moderators, and other forum members, have repeatedly requested the same of Al-d. The deletions are, IMO, l-o-n-g overdue and have absolutely nothing to do with Al-d's Christianity. What a crock!
Thank you sysops for attending to this matter.
-- RUOK (RUOK@yesiam.com), September 22, 1999.
Get out al-d, get a life al-d, al-d = idiot. al-d: your religious rants reek of self righteousness. What point in your life did you get your head injury? I agree sysop!
-- Feller (email@example.com), September 22, 1999.
It has been 4 days since you posted your very polite warning to Al-d. Since then, it appears to me that the behavior you warned against has escalated. I understand what a major undertaking it is to moderate a forum that is as busy as this one, and do appreciate your efforts. I have a question, though. Is the only way we can be spared this continual onslaught for someone to e-mail you every time we see it? It is getting to the point where that would require e-mailing you about nearly every thread on this board. Please, please, please, can you help us?
-- RUOK (RUOK@yesiam.com), September 26, 1999.
When it comes to the Christian religion, Al-D doesn't know what he is talking about. Then, this is a Y2k forum, and it is becoming clear that I don't know what I am talking about. That makes us equals. He is just dealing with a more important subject. If he is not clogging the system, leave him alone. If he is, you have the axe.
-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), September 26, 1999.
You haven't seen all the al-d posts that DID get deleted. If he can manage to make a relatively on-topic comment, without the constant "Jesus Saves..." remarks, then it may stay. Some statements are marginal, in his case.
He's a slow learner, who doesn't "get" there are many paths up the mountain, and that his savior would NOT approve of his actions here.
Perhaps he'll learn. Or not.
-- Diane J. Squire (firstname.lastname@example.org), September 26, 1999.
Way to go Al-D!!! You are getting exactly what you want. If the infidels wanted to get rid of you, they would ignore you. They continue to acknowledge your presence. It the same old shit over and over again on here. The place has lost it's purpose.
I'm with Y2K Dave.
-- (AL-D_Fan@:).com), September 26, 1999.
so by your fan logic any grafitti tagger is allowed to keeptrashing the forum? dumb troll.
-- (email@example.com), September 26, 1999.
Yoiks, Diane! If the moderators are deleting half again as many as we are continuing to see...well, I'm truly sorry for the extra burden added to an already time-consuming volunteer job. This causes me to add lack of a conscience to Al-d's characteristics.
Thanks for the reply,
-- RUOK (RUOK@yesiam.com), September 26, 1999.