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USFilter Water & Wastewater

40-004 Cook St.

Palm Desert, CA 92211 USA

Tel: 800-233-2011

Fax: 800-905-4261

Product Description

Mfrs. & Marketers Of Water & Wastewater Treatment, Technology, Components, Systems, & Plants; & Water Distribution Equipment & Supplies For North America's Cities, Municipalities, Developments & Businesses. Comprehensive Source For All Industrial/Commercial Requirements.

Year 2000 Readiness Disclosure

Microfloc Trident and Trimite

The normal Programmable Logic Controller used in the Microfloc Trident. and Trimite. control systems is the PLC/Direct model D3-330 or DL-340 CPU (or the DL-330 CPU's predecessor unit the GE-Fanuc Series One and Series One Plus). These CPU's do not have a built-in date or time function. As programmed by USFilter, these PLC programs did not have any date or clock time functions in the program. As there are no date or clock functions used in the programs, the standard Trident. and Trimite. control systems will not have any Year 2000 issues.

The Programmable Logic Controller used in the Aquaritrol(r) II and Aquaritrol(r) III utilize are the same as the units mentioned above. Again, they have no date or clock time function, either built-in or programmed, and will not have any Year 2000 problem.

Certain Trident. and Trimite. systems did utilize PLC's from other manufacturers as the basis of their control systems. Please directly inquire via the website about the Year 2000 status of those control systems.

Johnson Intake Screen Hydro Burst

The normal Programmable Logic Controller used in the Hydro Burst system on the Johnson Intake Screens uses the PLC/Direct model D2-240 CPU.

Per testing by the manufacturer, this PLC handles the year using a 2 digit format that correctly rolls over to "00" in the year 2000 and properly handles the year 2000 as a leap year. As programmed by USFilter, the PLC program did not use the year or the date in the program. The program did make use of the clock time, and will function correctly in the year 2000 and beyond. The operator interface provided with the D2-240 PLC is the PLC/Direct DV-1000 unit, which has no clock or calendar functions and will not be affected.

Microfloc Aquarius(r) and Waterboy(r)

The normal controls for Microfloc Aquarius and Waterboy package water treatment plants use only relay logic controls and have no Year 2000 issues.

Certain newer (and more complex) installations do have Programmable Logic Controllers for their control systems, and should make further inquiry as to their specific Year 2000 compatibility.

Should you have further questions please contact us at the above number in Sturbridge.

Sincerely,

Arnold D. Martin

USFilter Microfloc Products Group

441 Main St., PO Box 36

Sturbridge, MA 01566-0036

ph. 508/347-4528

fax 508/347-7049

martina@usfilter.com

Information provided you either in writing or verbally regarding products and services offered by USFilter or with respect to our Year 2000 processing capabilities or readiness are "Year 2000 Readiness Disclosures" in conformance with the Year 2000 Information and Readiness Disclosure Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-271, 112 Stat. 2386) enacted on October 19,1998. This designation applies to information delivered directly to you, through or derived from the Company's past or present Year 2000 disclosures.

-- Cherri (sams@brigadoon.com), September 12, 1999

Answers

Oh happy happy joy joy! We don't have to worry about water anymore! Thanks Cherri! You are awesome! NOT!

-- Mr. Serious (noone@notsaying.com), September 12, 1999.

Well I am a bit more relaxed. Now we need to find out who used just these items and then we've started a list of compliant water/sewer plants.

Chuck

PS Mr Serious: Lighten up a bit. Disagree with the message but don't impute meaning, attitude, or belief for the messenger.

-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), September 12, 1999.

PPS They certainly DO look like an expansion team, don't they?

***VB SIGH***

CHuck

-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), September 12, 1999.


Cherri,

I wish I could share your enthusiasm with this report.

Unfortunately ,I know a great deal about U.S.Filter. They have been buying up other companies and slapping their name on the trucks. The specific busineses I'm referring to is waste oil (remediation) you did know that oil you change every 3000 has to go somewhere?. I know the owner of one they purchased here in Va. which has mucho refractoring processing that U.S. filter did not touch. Something else you did not mention. U.S. Filter is Huuuuuge and multinational, just about in every country in the world. Guess that doesnt mean much. At least they know how to clean water!!

-- David Butts (dciinc@aol.com), September 12, 1999.


"Certain newer (and more complex) installations do have Programmable Logic Controllers for their control systems, and should make further inquiry as to their specific Year 2000 compatibility."

hmmm...? What does this mean?

Does anyone know if Sen. Bennett's story about the water treatment plant in Utah (rolling its clocks to 2000 & dumping toxic amounts of chlorine/flouride)was verified or disproved? I'd appreciate a link if you have one. Thanks.

-- d (whatever@whatever.com), September 12, 1999.



Well that's all well and good, as long as any ONE, of the millions of systems in our systemic world, doesn't keep the folks at USFilter at home for an extended period of time. In which case any one of the thousands of subsets of faulty systems, which WILL cause the replacement of filters to become necessary, but not available because...

-- Michael (mikeymac@uswest.net), September 12, 1999.

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001MC4

Regardless of whether the problem is with embedded systems, with software or with something else, the following cities told the GAO during its June 28th to July 9th survey that their Water/Wastewater Treatment services were not Y2K ready...

Los Angeles

Chicago

Houston

San Diego

Phoenix

San Antonio

Detroit

San Jose

San Francisco

Baltimore

Columbus

Milwaukee

Also see this table about the Y2K readiness of key city services according to the GAO survey:

http://www.senate.gov/~y2k/hearings/990715/chart4_tbl.gif

-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), September 13, 1999.


The July GAO report also contains the following quote:

http://www.gao.gov/corresp/AI99246R.PDF

[snip]

On average, cities reported completing work for 45 percent of the key service areas in which they had some responsibility. They also stated that work is well underway on the remaining services. Cities were most likely to have reported completing work in their transportation systems and telecommunications equipment. Relatively few, however, reported completing their portions of water and wastewater treatment systems, public building systems, and emergency service systems. [my emphasis]

[snip]

-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), September 13, 1999.


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