OTOTOT--- China's New World Odor(sic) ---OTOTOT

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Chinese president sees Asian-led new world order AP Photo


BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) - Growing ties between China and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations are paving the way for a new world order based on Asian values of peaceful coexistence, China's president said Friday. In a keynote speech on a state visit to Thailand, President Jiang Zemin took a thinly veiled swipe at what he called the ``gunboat diplomacy'' and ``economic colonialism'' of the United States, which he said were a threat to world peace and international security.

``Both China and ASEAN countries are advocators for a new international order,'' the Chinese leader told Thai and Chinese dignitaries at Bangkok's national cultural center. ``Our consensus on strategic issues is increasing.''

He declared that ASEAN - originally established over three decades ago as an anti-communist bloc - was ``an important force for peace and development in Asia'' that respected the sovereignty of nations.

The Chinese leader's five-day visit, the first by a Beijing head of state here since 1991, is being welcomed as a sign of growing amity between China and Southeast Asia.

Influential Thais have viewed China as a source of stability during the economic crisis of the past two years, and they are increasingly prizing relations with Beijing as a strategic counterweight to the United States.

ASEAN comprises Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam.

Referring to the most pressing source of tension between China and ASEAN, Jiang said Beijing was willing to have ``in-depth discussions'' with ASEAN nations to safeguard stability in the South China Sea.

Thailand is one of the few ASEAN countries that does not have competing claims with China for the South China Sea's Spratly Islands - recently a source of tension between Beijing and the Philippines.

Jiang also thanked the group for supporting the Chinese position of ``one country, two systems'' in regard to Taiwan. That position was recently challenged by Taiwanese President Lee Teng-hui's assertion of statehood, which has prompted sabre-rattling from Beijing.

``There is but one China in the world and Taiwan is an inalienable part of Chinese territory,'' Jiang stated.

Earlier in the day, Jiang met with Thai Prime Minister Chuan Leekpai.

Thailand extended thanks for China's refusal to devalue the yuan. It is feared that that could trigger a fresh round of currency crises in Southeast Asia.

Before his speech, Jiang viewed a rehearsal of the Royal Barge Procession - a parade of gilded canoes on the Chao Phraya river that will form part of celebrations of King Bhumibol Adulyadej's 72nd birthday later this year.

O'boy, look what we doomers did! We went and turned the Chinese government into conspiriacy nut, tinfoil toting wacko's. Pro, you'd better give them a call right away and let them know that the NWO is all a big crock.:D=

-- CygnusXI (noburnt@toas.net), September 03, 1999


American liberals are going to continue to see Communist China as a utopian workers paradise and a model which the U.S. should aspire to - right up until they nuke Taiwan (or nuke L.A., as they've threatened to do if we intervene in their rape of the R.C.).

When will liberals wake up and realize that statism is not the answer? We must have "social justice"? Statism concentrates power and wealth into and even smaller and more corrupt elite than does a free market system. The only difference is that no one is allowed to complain about it!


-- Liberty (liberty@theready.now), September 03, 1999.

Cygnus XI,

I noticed this earlier today, and found it interesting that China has picked up the new order rhetoric. And proclaiming it "an important force for peace".

Coupled with the swipe at America for standing in the way of peace.

The irony of this other tid bit I saw:


China Dissident Seized Over Internet

" BEIJING (AP) -- A Chinese dissident has been arrested and charged with subversion for printing copies of a banned pro-democracy Internet journal, activists reported Friday." (more at link)

IMO it looks like this means peace at the price of FREEDOM of speech, thought, democracy etc. Peace means bowing to them. Yes I know, it is China we're talking about. But remember the implication of the USA standing in the way of peace. What would an ASEAN Order look like? Shudder.

One other nit picky point: When the Berlin Wall fell, Bush declared victory & the ushering in of a New World Order, (Clinton has continued this terminology) I have often wondered why I had never heard any other Nations comment on these rather bold statements. After all the New World is the USA. It was a bit like saying 'we win now we rule the world.' Notice that the terminology China uses is not New World Order, but New International Order.

It seem to be a bit like China saying New World my butt, try New International you capatilist pig dogs, now go away before I taunt you a second time. (so take that) ;-)

Sounds like the ongoing saga of the struggle to rule the world.

Then again maybe not.

-- Deborah (infowars@yahoo.com), September 03, 1999.

CygnusXI, bad enough the just had that meeting w/ Russia, et al. it seems like they're recruiting allies for something. Deborah, NEE!

-- sarah (qubr@aol.com), September 04, 1999.

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