OT: Is your religion BATF approved? (aka. Would your government lie to you?)greenspun.com : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread
Dallas Morning News finally carries the emerging Waco story.
-- Sharon (firstname.lastname@example.org), August 24, 1999
-- Sharon (email@example.com), August 24, 1999.
Granted, the FBI lied about using pyrotechnic devices. However, even the whistleblower doesn't think that started the fire, HOURS later.
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"A former senior FBI official has said that the agency fired two pyrotechnic tear gas grenades on the last day of the 1993 Branch Davidian siege, a day on which federal authorities have long insisted they used nothing capable of starting a fire.
The former official, Danny O. Coulson, said in an interview that two devices known as M651 CS tear gas grenades were fired from FBI grenade launchers hours before the compound erupted in flames April 19, 1993. He said that they were used with permission from FBI supervisors but that they played no role in starting the fire."
-- M.C. Hicks (firstname.lastname@example.org), August 24, 1999.
Even the congresional investigation found that the BATF lied about there being a meth lad in the compound. Plus they found the warrent faulty and claims by the BATD that Koresh never left the compound completely false.
They still didn't explain why the BATF claimed to have been ambushed by the Branch Davidians when news video clearly shows this is not the case. They just drove up in trailers.
They also didn't explain why the crime scene was so throughly destroyed. If events unfolded the way the Feds said they did then in order to dispel the controversy spawned by the incident they should have wanted as much of the evidence as possible preserved. Yet they made sure that the crime scene was completely destroyed by bulldozing the the parts that weren't burning back in to the fire. Not to mention holding up the fire trucks at the check points.
And of course, there is the documnetry "Waco: the rules of engagement" (AVAILABLE FROM AMAZON.COM!! ) and the evidence they presented undermining the governments version of events.
When all this is answered perhaps I can then turn my attention to the less compelling evidence like if and how many pyrotechnic devices were fired in to a house with so much CS gas in it that it was a fire hazard. At least if the manufacturers warning labels on the CS gas rounds are to be believed. Something about "not to be used indoors" or such.
-- eyes_open (email@example.com), August 24, 1999.
A sequel to Waco: The Rules of Engagement is due to be released in the latter part of September. From the teasers, it will be well worth watching.
-- Gypsy (GypsiGold@aol.com), August 24, 1999.
This was a horror that will be compared with the Nazi "Crystalnacht."
Rent "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" at the Hollywood Video store near you.
The Feds obtained a faulty warrant on false pretences, served it with a small army, fired first, torched the compound, ran over children with tanks, destroyed evidence, and lied and lied and lied about it, perpetuating accusations of child abuse, drug production, etc. - that they knew were false (and knew Americans would believe). The media looks the other way, or lies through it's capped and polished teeth. If I were a religious person, I would say that the Devil has America by the throat. Get wise, people. More to the point, get ready for more, because they were just testing the water with that little atrocity.
-- Liberty (firstname.lastname@example.org), August 24, 1999.
Waco was the event that opened my eyes to the evil that has permeated our government, that proved that our liberty was in mortal danger.
This threat grows in the environment of public apathy the way a fungus grows in the dark.
Is it any surprise to anyone that they are lying to us concerning Y2K?
-- Forrest Covington (email@example.com), August 24, 1999.
No, it is no surprise at all. See an old thread sometime in July about a county Y2K meeting in Fairfax, VA, to see the "we cannot disturb the poor, who cannot provide preps for themselves anyway," mentality. I believe Y2K is seen high up as a depopulation period when TPTB can rule a smaller, weakened (they hope) populace. And I'm not paranoid, just deducing from all we have seen them do and heard them say thus far. Prepare, prepare, prepare, friends.
-- They R. Watching (Carefulnot@say.now), August 24, 1999.
Like many folks on this board, I am increasingly concerned for the safety and well-being of the citizens of this great nation. Be it some kind of government atrocity (Waco) or massive with-holding of essential Y2K information, things are not looking good at all. I am very fearful for the future of life and liberty in the USA.
-- Irving (Irving@privacy.net), August 24, 1999.
-- HTML newbie (firstname.lastname@example.org), August 26, 1999.