Burning VCD using USB version of DAZZLE

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Is there anyone that has successfully created VCD disk playable on DVD using DAZZLE USB version ?. I would like to discuss my problem with you. Thanks

Kiam Oey

-- Kiam Oey (kiam.t.oey@boeing.com), August 16, 1999

Answers

I have done it successfully several times now. Using both Cequadrat and Easy CD creator. Ask away, and I'll try to answer when I have time.

Bruce

-- Bruce Kuhn (bkuhn@westell.com), August 17, 1999.


Bruce, Could you please share with us the settings you use to capture the video? and also, how did you get CeQuadrat (or Adaptec) to recognize the files as valid MPG1/Whitebook files? Did you have to use a third program? Thanks.

Gil.

-- Gil (gilg@whc.net), August 17, 1999.


Gil, if you are using Dazzle DVC, all you need to do is just using VCD template to capture the video. The mpeg you capture with the VCD template is recognized by both Adaptec and CeQuadrat, (I tried that already). Even if you only have avi files, CeQuadrat can do the mpeg encoding for you automatically, but of course it takes long time to do the encoding.

-- Wong (warwickw@earthlink.net), August 17, 1999.

Thanks to all. I tried Adaptec CD creator delux and it works. Apparently there is something wrong with NTI CD Maker Pro. It writes the wrong VCD format that is not recognized by DVD player. I am a happy camper now !. Kiam Oey

-- Kiam Oey (kiam.t.oey@boeing.com), August 18, 1999.

I, too, have had problems with NTI for making VCDs but discovered that when encoding to VCD 2.0 format, you have to disable 'Pack Audio Null Bytes'.

-- Adrian Gall (gall@quik.com), August 19, 1999.


I did the following experiment.

I use Adaptec EZ CD Creator deluxe and using the same file as I use with the NTI, I was able to create VCD that can be played in my DVD player. The *.dat file in the MPEGAV folder can also be played using either Window media player or Quicktime by double clicking. I even went further as to create another VCD using the *.dat file of the first VCD by renaming the file to *.mpg. Again the resulting .dat file can be played using quicktime or window media player. The second generation VCD also can be played.

I repeated the above using NTI. The first generation VCD won't play and the .dat file cannot be played using either Window player or Quicktime. I took the .dat file and renamed it to .mpg. This file was rejected by NTI when I tried to make a second generation VCD.

I went back to all my VCD's created by NTI and found that all the *.dat files won't play either.

My conclusion is somehow NTI software corrupted the mpeg file when it writes the VCD.

Kiam Oey

P.S. I have Packard Bell Cyrix MII 300 and Win98

-- Kiam Oey (kiam.t.oey@boeing.com), August 20, 1999.


I'm using the Dazzle DPM USB version to caputre the movie via Adobe Premiere 5.0 into the Avi format without compression. Then using Xing encoder to transfer it into the VCD MPEG NTSC format. using ADPT Cd Create 4.0 deluxe to create VCD in CD-R or CD-RW format. It takes a long time to finish the precess. (about 3hrs) for a 70 mins VCD. However, the result is great. I think it is better than Dazzle DVC caputre into MPEG format.

Also, not all DVD can handle CD-R or CD-RW, My pioneer DVD player doesn't like CD-R, however, CD-RW works fine.

I noticed that a lot of discussion regards the some brand of DVD player will not play CD-R VCD format, some will not play CD-RW VCD format. I'll compile a list if you folks provide me the information.

1) DVD Maker, 2) Model, 3) Support VCD? 4) Support CD-R? 5) Support CD-RW? 6) Comment

-- Momo (momoweb@hotmail.com)

-- Momo (momoweb@hotmail.com), October 20, 1999.


Pioneer and Phillips DVD players will play either CD-R or CD-RW discs. I've throw generic brands, Memorex, Imation, TDK, and Sony at them and all of them work fine. I've also tested with the write speed to see where there will be problem. I've burned VCD at 2x,4x,6x, and 8x and no problem so far. Pioneer and Phillips are being duel lasers so they will function ok with CD-R's. On the other hand, the newer models with single laser like Sony, Toshiba (specially this model), and others will not play CD-R's and certain type of CD-RW's. You'll need either Memorex CD-RW or Sony CD-RW to play on them. Toshiba likes Sony CD-RW's. I've found the Toshiba will freeze or jerk with Memorex CD-RW; However, it will play the Sony brand flawlessly.

-- lnguyen (wingstarzz@hotmail.com), February 06, 2000.

Initially I was disappointed in not being able to make a VCD that was recognizable by my DVD player that was Video CD capable. In sorting through hours of internet postings, and vendor documentation, I found that my source of error lies in the color of the CD-R substrate. A normal CD-R has a greenish dye on the writeable area, and absorbs the laser light from the DVD player. I tried to burn another Video CD with the same capture conditions as the previous failures, and used a CD-RW of the same brand name. This CD-RW worked, primarily because the writeable area of the CD substrate was silverish in color, and not green at all. The following is a list of tips that may help any of you that use the Dazzle DVC USB version. Keep in mind that if any one of these equipment or software variables is different, it may not work.

Computer used: 500 MHz PIII CPU w/256MB of 100MHz SDRAM. System resources at least 50% free (My computer, Control Panel, System, and

-- Tom Olson (tcolson@charter.net), September 16, 2000.


Initially I was disappointed in not being able to make a VCD that was recognizable by my DVD player that was Video CD capable. In sorting through hours of internet postings, and vendor documentation, I found that my source of error lies in the color of the CD-R substrate. A normal CD-R has a greenish dye on the writeable area, and absorbs the laser light from the DVD player. I tried to burn another Video CD with the same capture conditions as the previous failures, and used a CD-RW of the same brand name. This CD-RW worked, primarily because the writeable area of the CD substrate was silverish in color, and not green at all. The following is a list of tips that may help any of you that use the Dazzle DVC USB version. Keep in mind that if any one of these equipment or software variables is different, it may not work.

*Computer used: 500 MHz PIII CPU w/256MB of 100MHz SDRAM. System resources at least 50% free (My computer, Control Panel, System, and the resources tab to see the percentage free). Close out resident programs using the task manager to free system up. This will smooth out video capture phase. Lots of RAM, and a big processor helps also. *Dazzle DVC USB hooked up to VHS VCR, or Camcorder. Use Video CD template for the proper 2.0 compliant data rate for capture. *Adaptec EZ CD Creator Deluxe 4 (4.02) software to get the Video CD burning format. The wizard in this software will guide you through it virtually effortlessly. Straight through play, or menu option clip selection like a DVD movie! Make sure your burner is compatible

-- Tom Olson (tcolson@charter.net), September 16, 2000.



Initially I was disappointed in not being able to make a VCD that was recognizable by my DVD player that was Video CD capable. In sorting through hours of internet postings, and vendor documentation, I found that my source of error lies in the color of the CD-R substrate. A normal CD-R has a greenish dye on the writeable area, and absorbs the laser light from the DVD player. I tried to burn another Video CD with the same capture conditions as the previous failures, and used a CD-RW of the same brand name. This CD-RW worked, primarily because the writeable area of the CD substrate was silverish in color, and not green at all. The following is a list of tips that may help any of you that use the Dazzle DVC USB version. Keep in mind that if any one of these equipment or software variables is different, it may not work.

*Computer used: 500 MHz PIII CPU w/256MB of 100MHz SDRAM. System resources at least 50% free (My computer, Control Panel, System, and the resources tab to see the percentage free). Close out resident programs using the task manager to free system up. This will smooth out video capture phase. Lots of RAM, and a big processor helps also. *Dazzle DVC USB hooked up to VHS VCR, or Camcorder. Use Video CD template for the proper 2.0 compliant data rate for capture. *Adaptec EZ CD Creator Deluxe 4 (4.02) software to get the Video CD burning format. The wizard in this software will guide you through it virtually effortlessly. Straight through play, or menu option clip selection like a DVD movie! Make sure your burner is compatible with this software. *Sony DVP-S360 DVD player. This is 2.0 compliant firmware Video CD playable DVD player. Similar systems available, but don't rely on sales people for the definitive word on it. Ask the manufacturer.

Record using the Video CD template, sample and edit your clips, insert a CD-R or RW with silver colored writable area, and start the burning software. Run a test to ensure that all of your clips will fit on the CD prior to actual burn. Conversion from a MPEG to a Video CD format file will change the data size slightly, so make sure the CD can close the session without being cut off. The test ensures this before the burn. If your clips are too long, remove some, and put to another CD. An interrupted CD burn session CD will not work anywhere.

Hope this helps,

Tom

-- Tom Olson (tcolson@charter.net), September 16, 2000.


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