FAA 100% compliant? Then why does congressman Horn say this?

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"Among major departments that have the most ground to cover are Transportation (including, notably, the Federal Aviation Administration), Treasury and Justice."

Posted today. Seattle Times: California congressman gives federal agencies Y2K wake-up

Any comment, Hoff? <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), August 13, 1999


To recent answers.

Are you out there this evening, Sir Hoffmeister? <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), August 13, 1999.

(snip) "Horn said he's not a "gloom and doomer," adding that average citizens should be "prudent to protect their own interests." He said the government's success or failure wouldn't be known until Jan. 1, 2000."

"That's the final exam," said Horn." (end snip)

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to label 01/01/2000 a mid-term exam as opposed to a final exam???

-- Bingo1 (howe9@pop.shentel.net), August 13, 1999.

I do not beleive that anyone knows what is going on. I think they, Horn Dodd, Bennett, etc., are just offering opinions and hoping they are fact.

It is SO CRAZY. There is no one we can beleive so we had better relay on those gut feelings.

-- L. Arnold (adahi@muhlon.com), August 13, 1999.

The FAA has outright LIED so many times before, perhaps this explains it. Or, maybe he just made a mistake.

Here it is, practially mid-August. We keep saying "Nobody knows" what is going to happen. Maybe we should just say, "Nobody can be believed"....

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), August 13, 1999.

It's hard, *sigh*, so very hard, to tell the truth.

Sorry, usually don't post comments that are not related to researched findings. I've fallen off the wagon this evening.

-- OR (orwelliator@biosys.net), August 13, 1999.

I'm sure you misunderstood. The FAA is 100% compliant.. Jane said so didn't she? "Among major departments that have the most ground to cover are Transportation (including, notably, the Federal Aviation Administration"... that was just a reference to frequent flyer miles.

-- Linda (lwmb@psln.com), August 13, 1999.

Well, reading the article, it is apparent his comments were in reference to the last Report Card, issued June 15th, based on data as of May 14th.

-- Hoffmeister (hoff_meister@my-deja.com), August 13, 1999.

Good evening, Sir Hoffmeister,

Glad too see you. Hope you had a good flight. Any delays?

I've been at our backup mainframe site all week, in NYC, doing, believe it or not, Y2K testing! Going pretty good so far.

I didn't see any reference to May data in the article. Maybe you could post a ref.

Doesn't matter much, as far as I am concerned. People have been "working" on this problem for years, what does another 30 days do? I think it's a miracle that they went from being a concern, worth noting, of Mr. Horn, to 100% compliant.

Reminds me of the NERC charts a few months ago, maybe June to July. We had a handful of cos. at the bottom of the chart, 10%, 20%, 30% "done". One month later, nobody was in these range. Another damned miracle, as far as I'm concerned.

I'm going to sit on my porch, and watch the coming storm!?!? Haven't had rain here in NJ for so long, I forget what it looks like. I'll be back...

Tick... Tock... <:00=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), August 13, 1999.

Always willing to help. From the article:

To do the grading, Horn reviews quarterly reports issued by the federal Office of Management and Budget (OMB). In the last report, issued June 15, OMB said that of 6,190 mission critical systems spread across major departments and small and independent agencies, 93 percent are Y2K compliant, up from 79 percent in February.

Among the agencies in good shape are the Social Security Aministration, Nuclear Regulatory Commission and Education Department. Among major departments that have the most ground to cover are Transportation (including, notably, the Federal Aviation Administration), Treasury and Justice.

The June OMB report is based on data received by May 14th.

-- Hoffmeister (hoff_meister@my-deja.com), August 14, 1999.

Howdy Hoff,

Had a nice rain here, about f'ing time! Maybe more this WE, I hope so...

"reviews quarterly reports"

Well, the last time I checked, quarters end on March, June, September, and December. I still don't get your May connection. Please explain...

Tick... Tock... <:00=

PS - Like I said, doesen't matter much, I think...

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), August 14, 1999.

The last OMB report is available here:

http://www.cio.gov/9t hQuarterlyReport.pdf

On the Cover Page, it states "Data received May 14, 1999. Issued June 15, 1999".

Horn's latest report card is available here:

http://www.house .gov/reform/gmit/y2k/index.htm

Notice, it is labelled May 1999 Report Card. On page 2, in the fine print, it states:

Department of Commerce Prepared for Subcommittee Chairman Stephen Horn. Subcommittee on Government Management, Information, and Technology. Issued June 15,1999, based on agency data from May 14, 1999. Subcommittee Home Page on the Internet: http://www.house.gov/reform/gmit.

-- Hoffmeister (hoff_meister@my-deja.com), August 14, 1999.


-- Hoffmeister (hoff_meister@my-deja.com), August 14, 1999.

Kind of interesting how things apparently important enough to start new threads, and important enough to require a second request for response, all of a sudden become unimportant.

-- Hoffmeister (hoff_meister@my-deja.com), August 14, 1999.

Sometime next week this report will get released. Should be interesting. And timely...

Year 2000 Computing Challenge: Important Progress Made, Yet Much Work Remains to Ensure Delivery of Critical Services, by Joel C. Willemssen, Director of Civil Agencies Information Systems Issues, before the Subcommittee on Government Management, Information, and Technology, House Committee on Government Reform. (Field hearing in Sacramento, California.) GAO/T-AIMD-99-266, Aug. 13.

It will show up here...

GAO: Recent Reports (Arranged by Title)

http:// www.gao.gov/new.items/newtitle.htm

Sorta bet theyll touch on transportation... and the FAA.


-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), August 14, 1999.

Will they "touch" on Transportation and the FAA? Without a doubt.

Care to speculate on just "what" they'll say?

Hey, we could even make it a little bet!

-- Hoffmeister (hoff_meister@my-deja.com), August 14, 1999.

Ah, but Hoffy... the FAA disconnect has always been what "they say" for pubic consumption... and the reality of the situation. I'd rather see what the Air Traffic Controller's, the Pilot's Unions and the Airport & IT guys have to say.

No I will not "bet" with you, nor mudwrestle. It's a waste of good energy.

Have a nice weekend.


-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), August 14, 1999.

Hmmm. Yet another example of bringing up a subject, in this case the GAO report, then immediately discounting it.


-- Hoffmeister (hoff_meister@my-deja.com), August 14, 1999.

Just a hunch... but I do suspect that Congressman Horn knows that it's now August, and not May or even June.... And I also suspect that it's just possible that he's heard that FAA has said it's 100% compliant.

Therefore, the notion that his statements yesterday are based on evidence from May seems to me to be... grasping at straws.

-- Lane Core Jr. (elcore@sgi.net), August 14, 1999.

Howdy Hoff,

Didn't mean to run away. Been taking a break, enjoying the change in weather.

I pretty much agree with Lane. This is a recent statement, and I think his remark is based on recent data. I guess we'll just have to wait for the new report, or do you think that too will be based on "old" data? Hummm, we may not find out how bad Y2K is going to be 'til about March at this rate...

Tick... Tock... <:00=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), August 14, 1999.

Anyway, why should you care any about all this Hoffy. You and your wife earned a one way ticket to the Falkland Isalnds deep in South Atlantic territory (remember?) so you two guys are gonna be FLYING anyway on 01-01-00...

-- George (jvilches@sminter.com.ar), August 14, 1999.

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